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Anyone’s mind changed yet re: removal based on the testimony?
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Anyone’s mind changed yet re: removal based on the testimony?
Anyone’s mind changed yet re: removal based on the testimony?
yes, me.Anyone’s mind changed yet re: removal based on the testimony?
and protect their own interests.
the senators will turn a blind eye to the evidence and protect their own interests.
Hopefully neither side does this, but I can certainly see that happening considering the partisan nature of the proceedings
53-47
What’s the tally again for the house impeachment vote?
My point is that while "Bernie Bros" are routinely—and, based on historical context, completely unfairly—lambasted for their alleged role in Clinton's 2016 loss, and there has been tons of handwringing about their possibly sabotaging a Democratic nominee that isn't Sanders in 2020, there are other elements of the Democratic coalition that are as staunchly anti-Sanders in their politics as the Bernie Bros are, say, anti-Joe Biden. In other words, the Bernie Bros are not the only ideologues in the party that may abandon the Democratic nominee if that person isn't to their liking.I think there's a substantial faction of potential Dem voters that would not vote for Bernie - some moderate Dems and Independents. Specifically, I'm thinking about PA, MI, and WI. 3 states that are similar demographically, that Hillary lost by thin margins. I realize that's not the only path but it seems most likely.
I'd be most concerned about Independents. Someone that might've voted for Biden but would vote for Trump otherwise. Someone that voted for Obama and Trump, Romney and Hillary. Those people are out there as odd as it seems.
I don't consider those people ideologues though. They would be voting (or see themselves as voting) for the candidate that mostly closely mirrors their beliefs. Of course voters feel passionately about certain issues and values but the appetite for "far-left" economic policy isn't so strong in most places. Philly to Pittsburgh is MAGA country.
Anyone that believes in Bernie's core policies/beliefs and then went and voted for Trump or didn't vote was not voting for the candidate that most closely mirrored their beliefs.
I get the sentiment that Dems shouldn't be most concerned about appealing to R-lites. But it's part of the equation unfortunately as long as we have the EC or the current math changes.
For the record - I think any of the Big 3 (lol) could beat Trump - only that Bernie is the least likely/most probably candidate.
Hopefully neither side does this, but I can certainly see that happening considering the partisan nature of the proceedings
Hopefully neither side does this, but I can certainly see that happening considering the partisan nature of the proceedings
beto losing to the man that sucks up to the ahole that insulted his wife really makes me sad til this day.
i thought texans were proud people
watch what you say before he punches your faceHe's a fake Texan.
watch what you say before he punches your face
My point is that while "Bernie Bros" are routinely—and, based on historical context, completely unfairly—lambasted for their alleged role in Clinton's 2016 loss, and there has been tons of handwringing about their possibly sabotaging a Democratic nominee that isn't Sanders in 2020, there are other elements of the Democratic coalition that are as staunchly anti-Sanders in their politics as the Bernie Bros are, say, anti-Joe Biden. In other words, the Bernie Bros are not the only ideologues in the party that may abandon the Democratic nominee if that person isn't to their liking.
Your recent posts have alluded to this, the talk of "independents" in this post notwithstanding, and it's a point that I think needs to be highlighted.