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Hillary Clinton made mistakes during the 2016, but she clearly got screwed out of the Presidency, and that goes beyond Electoral College.
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I'm not skipping anything; I'm well aware of all of the dynamics to which you're alluding.
I'm stating that her own campaign's failures in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania had more of an impact on her losing in 2016 than any of those other dynamics. The only thing that had a bigger role in her loss was the existence of the Electoral College.
Does them doing that right now about Bernie have an impact on things right now?soooooooooooooooooooo legit news outlets basically running a hit on her at the very end didn’t have an impact on things?
You feel the same way about Bernie's actions in the primary, right?I'm not skipping anything; I'm well aware of all of the dynamics to which you're alluding.
I'm stating that her own campaign's failures in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania had more of an impact on her losing in 2016 than any of those other dynamics. The only thing that had a bigger role in her loss was the existence of the Electoral College.
Nothing happening to Bernie now equates to the Comey letter and its coverage.Does them doing that right now about Bernie have an impact on things right now?
Bernie didn't have the money, campaign apparatus, name recognition, local political networks in place, etc. that Clinton did, so no, I don't think it was the same. Do I think he should have done some thing differently? Sure. But he wasn't the presumptive front-runner with a historic campaign war chest whose political miscalculations cost him. He was an insurgent candidate running on a democratic socialist platform who no one hardly knew when the campaign began. That he was able to do what he did and what he's doing is rather remarkable in my eyes. But he lost the primary fair and square.You feel the same way about Bernie's actions in the primary, right?
You know, the whole ignoring black southern voters until it was too late and giving up after one state.
Arrogance, self-delusion, self sabotage. All apply right?
Does them doing that right now about Bernie have an impact on things right now?
He had the money and time to go talk to mainly white voters all over the Midwest and coasts to build his momentumBernie didn't have the money, campaign apparatus, name recognition, local political networks in place, etc. that Clinton did, so no, I don't think it was the same. Do I think he should have done some thing differently? Sure. But he wasn't the presumptive front-runner with a historic campaign war chest whose political miscalculations cost him. He was an insurgent candidate running on a democratic socialist platform who no one hardly knew when the campaign began. That he was able to do what he did and what he's doing is rather remarkable in my eyes. But he lost the primary fair and square.
How does this contradict in any way my comments that you were responding to?He had the money and time to go talk to mainly white voters all over the Midwest and West Coast to build his momentum
So he had the time and money to go talk to the Dems most loyal voters.
Your comment read like a partial excuse for his behavior. I am saying there isn't one.How does this contradict in any way my comments that you were responding to?
Bro, I'm saying I wish he would have done some things differently—campaigning much harder in the South being one of them. I agree with you.Your comment read like a partial excuse for his behavior. I am saying there isn't one.
As to your second question, sometimes, sure.Your comment read like a partial excuse for his behavior. I am saying there isn't one.
Btw, arrogance, self-delusion, self sabotage. Any of those apply to Bernie's behavior?
That will be the least of our concerns should things play out in that fashion
But it will be extremely interesting to see how all of this "unity" talk and castigation of the left wing of the party will play out should Sanders get the nomination.
Just had a long conversation with a Bernie Bro...we're doomed if he doesn't get the nomination. They not about to vote for anybody else.
Bernie Bros should be put in the "undecided" category if he doesn't win the nomination. They damn sure ain't democrats.
Just had a long conversation with a Bernie Bro...we're doomed if he doesn't get the nomination. They not about to vote for anybody else.
Bernie Bros should be put in the "undecided" category if he doesn't win the nomination. They damn sure ain't democrats.
What percentage of all of Bernie supporters do you feel your sentiments apply to?Just had a long conversation with a Bernie Bro...we're doomed if he doesn't get the nomination. They not about to vote for anybody else.
Bernie Bros should be put in the "undecided" category if he doesn't win the nomination. They damn sure ain't democrats.