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I would really like to beat the ish out of lindsey graham or at least shake the ish outta of him. I know he has to have really bad skeletons in his closet to.

The turn dude has made, really gotta wonder what they got on him..

This all screams "the lady doth protest too much, methinks".. it's like soccer players trying to get a call
 
The turn dude has made, really gotta wonder what they got on him..

This all screams "the lady doth protest too much, methinks".. it's like soccer players james harden or an nfl d-lineman/qb trying to get a call

>D:wink:

Football ain't nearly as theatrical as the corrections I made.
 
One big difference comrade. William Cosby was an adult that preyed on women. Kavs was just a kid that had too much milk to drink and was roughhousing. We don't hold kids to the same standards in this country. Belgium Belgium can speak to Belgium where Kavs would be considered an adult.
You are right, it was just horseplay, just like what Sandusky was doing with those kids.
 
Damn, the defeated looks on the faces of Democrats during that vote was incredible ... Booker and Harris refused to answer lol ... The white lawyer lady who was very nice, was smacking her arm so hard in frustration ...

L ...
 
imho the next quarter window shall be interesting. Bart O’Kavs will get confirmed but once he’s confirmed I would believe the FBI investigation will get reopened after Mr. Judge flips on him. Kav will end up stepping down from SCOTUS after a new can of worms is opened from new statements and the pubs will just have to drop him. It’ll be interesting to see how the states vote this year with any senator cosigning kavanaugh probably being ousted. Maybe maybe not but we’ll just have to see at this point
 
The trolls are really pulling out all the stops to try and sound like they’re just “being fair”. So I guess the only way someone can be found guilty is if the guy who did it confessed or if 2 people are raped at a time so that they can both say something. I guess if one person is exually abused good luck.


Idiots
 
Evidence is there and the story checks out among multiple people. It’s juat not the evidence YOU WANT. Dude in question, who is SO SURE it never happened, doesn’t even want to take the lie detector test.


Sit down

"Evidence" is there huh? lol where is it? If the "evidence is there and the story checks out" then why isn't this an open and shut case? So emotional. What adult says "Sit down" after attempting making a point?
 
There is a witness to these events, an eye witness, the GOP does not want that person to testify.

Last time I checked, witness testimony is considered evidence.

So all the conservatives running in here to lecture about evidevce should shut the **** up, because the GOP already undercut your argument.

White Supremacy is so potent you dudes are willing to routinely look like ignorant scumbags for it. Sheesh
 
There is a witness to these events, and eye witness, the GOP don't want that person to testify.

Last time I checked, witness testimony is considered evidence.

Aso all the conservatives running in here to lecture should shut the **** up, because the GOP already undercut your argument.
We’re talking to the “fake news” demographic. Anything comes up they don’t like and it’s fake. A witness steps up and “they’re just saying that just becuase”. Their own boy doesn’t want to take the lie detector test, the one thing that will end this ALL, and they have no words.
 
There is a witness to these events, an eye witness, the GOP does not want that person to testify.

Last time I checked, witness testimony is considered evidence.

Aso all the conservatives running in here to lecture about evidevce should shut the **** up, because the GOP already undercut your argument.

White Supremacy is so potent you dudes are willing to look like ignorant scumbags routinely for it. Sheesh

"Works with a lawyere" but zero clue what sort of evidence is admissible and the value that each piece would be given
 
^ dude can't even look her in the eyes.. at least man up and do that



Neverforget, dr ford was suspicious to ole Lindsey for taking a lie detector test and hiring a lawyer
 
There is no strategy to combat poor policy, founded in identity politics ...

What baffles me about Dems is that they scream at the top of their lungs how racism and bigotry riddle the Republican party, and yet they spend most of their time talking about racism and bigotry ... There are only two outcomes to this strategy: 1) You are spot on and the the racists and bigots rally around the identity rhetoric and want to stick it to the minorities!!!!!! 2) More likely, people like me who wouldn't even pay attention unless Booker called me a racist, get pissed off at being called a racist and a bigot and vote against any and all Libbies ...
Would you describe the following as identity politics too?

Nixon political strategist Kevin Phillips, who popularized the Southern Strategy:
"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."


Reagan adviser and Republican party strategist/consultant:
Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now you don't have to do that. All that you need to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues that he's campaigned on since 1964, and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

Atwater: Y'all don't quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, "******, ******, ******". By 1968 you can't say "******"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this", is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "******, ******"


Nixon's top adviser John Ehrlichman:
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people."
"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."


N.C. Republican party consultant Carter Wrenn responding to the state's voter ID law and the court ruling that struck down parts of that law for "targeting African-Americans with almost surgical precision":
“Of course it’s political. Why else would you do it?” he said, explaining that Republicans, like any political party, want to protect their majority. While GOP lawmakers might have passed the law to suppress some voters, Wrenn said, that does not mean it was racist.

“Look, if African Americans voted overwhelmingly Republican, they would have kept early voting right where it was,” Wrenn said. “It wasn’t about discriminating against African Americans. They just ended up in the middle of it because they vote Democrat.”
 
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^ dude can't even look her in the eyes.. at least man up and do that



Neverforget, dr ford was suspicious to ole Lindsey for taking a lie detector test and hiring a lawyer

The Russians have to have some serious dirt on dude and Rand Paul with the 180 they've both done over the last year
 
The Russians have to have some serious dirt on dude and Rand Paul with the 180 they've both done over the last year

Yup.. I just hope we find out.. but given how quickly things go throu the news cycle I wonder what long term significance any of this will truly have

Any of this shh that happens on a weekly basis would have been significant black eyes on any other administration.. and yet shh is forgotten in a matter of literally days.. I really wonder what the value of history will be in the very near future
 
American politics in 2018 is so hypocritical that it’s actually hilarious. I’m currently listening to the pod cast Slow Burn, which details the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal. It does a really good job of establishing the political climate around the time Ken Starr’s investigation. All the names popping up in scandals, siding with Kav, are the same politicians 20 years ago screaming about the moral fiber of America being destroyed and wanted Clinton out of the office. Now those same dudes are looking to give potential rapists life long positions of power. LOL
 
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