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really hope this dude getting paid enough for this

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A plethora of butter biscuits
 
Just can't

If someone outchea making poor musical decisions, then they probably messing up in other areas, and I can't put 100 percent faith in them. I know Dean Heller ain't messing with Dolph, which is one of the reasons I want him to lose reelection.
:lol: I’m dead. I’m surprised someone as intelligent and woke as you likes Dolph, given his ratchet subject matter lol. I just recently got into Dolph. Thinking out loud got me into him and the buffoonery around him getting shot lol. You also gotta peep the new Lupe Fiasco.
 
Who knew the best way to get Trump angry is to describe his tiny (as stated by witnesses) penis? That should be info only he and his daughter should know
 
Radical left :lol: like y’all wasn’t hanging black humans from trees less than a century ago. But those who deman equality are the radicals. I’ll say it again, American conservatism is just another surname for white supremacy.
Isn’t it wild that the more you learn, the more that’s cemented?
 
Black conservatism is an oldddd tradition, going back to Booker T. Washington clashing with Frederick Douglass. Booker T was on his pull ourselves up by our boot straps and Frederick was not about that. I think that black people historically have a lot of socially conservative values, so it makes sense that black people are pulled in. But when you talk about the Republican Party, present day, that's different and you cannot talk about them without their role in propping up and maintaining a system built around white supremacy.
Black conservatism has to do with authority, and I can tell you that if Africans immigrated at the same rates as Asians or Latinos in this country, there would be a much bigger black conservative movement. The problem, as you say, is that to be a black conservative in the US, you HAVE to ignore the obvious: that conservative policies are built to protect the well-being of white people at the expense of non-white folks. You have to ignore that majority minority areas hit by natural disasters will see less help from the government than majority white areas (compare FEMA response in New Orleans and Porto Rico to Florida); you have to ignore that a black weed dealer is seen as nefarious, but a white one is a visionary; etc...

The funniest thing to me is when they get THAT reality check and when "their" people remind them of their true role in right-wing circles: token (think former RNC chairman Mike Steele). Often times, they are way too deep in their line of thinking to admit they were wrong about the true nature of the ideology they espouse, and they disappear. *Shrugs*
 
Well this doesn't sound like attempted witness tampering at all

Excerpt:
One person familiar with the conversations said Mr. Dowd believed such a fund would help prevent Messrs. Manafort and Gates—formerly the chairman and deputy chairman, respectively, of Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign—from pleading guilty and potentially cooperating against the president. During that period, friends of both men said efforts were under way to raise money for legal fees so the two former campaign aides could fund what was likely to be an expensive and lengthy legal battle.

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When Mr. Gates pleaded guilty in late February to two charges of financial misdeeds, he owed more than $200,000 to some of his lawyers, according to people familiar with the matter.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-tru...or-manafort-gates-1537546304?mod=hp_lead_pos3
Ex-Trump Lawyer Tried to Help Pay Legal Fees for Manafort, Gates
Advisers objected to John Dowd’s efforts to divert funds and solicit donors for former Trump aides, citing impropriety
A top lawyer for President Trump this year sought to help pay legal fees for Paul Manafort and Richard Gates, initially trying to divert money from the White House legal defense fund and later soliciting donors and pledging $25,000 of his own.
In both cases, the president’s advisers objected to the lawyer’s actions over concerns it could appear aimed at stopping the two former aides from cooperating with investigators.

John Dowd, who at the time was heading Mr. Trump’s legal team, at the start of the year told associates of the president he wanted to direct money from the legal defense fund set up for White House officials and campaign aides to the lawyers for Messrs. Manafort and Gates, according to people familiar with the matter. The pair had pleaded not guilty to charges of tax, bank and lobbying violations in the fall of 2017.

That idea was rebuffed by ethics advisers in the White House, the people said. The fund had been set up specifically to aid those who faced legal fees stemming from their involvement with the president. While the charges facing Messrs. Manafort and Gates had stemmed from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, they pertained to activities that predated the Trump campaign, making the two aides ineligible for those funds.

On Feb. 22, Mr. Dowd told associates of the president in an email that Messrs. Manafort and Gates needed funds immediately, according to people familiar with the matter. He said he planned to donate $25,000 to Mr. Manafort’s legal defense fund the next day.
The next day, Mr. Gates pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with investigators.

White House advisers and Trump associates warned Mr. Dowd that his efforts to solicit funds and donate to the former campaign aides would look improper, according to people familiar with the discussions. They were eager to avoid any perception that the president’s legal team was seeking to interfere in the investigation, as well as to keep the charges against Messrs. Manafort and Gates distanced from the president so as not to taint him. They were also concerned that Mr. Dowd’s efforts could undermine their own work to downplay the White House’s concern about the charges facing the former campaign aides.

In an email to The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Dowd said he had considered making the donation, but “upon the advice I received, I did not make that contribution.”

The episode was one of several that people close to the president described as concerning behavior by Mr. Dowd, who at the time was Mr. Trump’s top lawyer. Mr. Dowd left the team the following month.

One person familiar with the conversations said Mr. Dowd believed such a fund would help prevent Messrs. Manafort and Gates—formerly the chairman and deputy chairman, respectively, of Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign—from pleading guilty and potentially cooperating against the president. During that period, friends of both men said efforts were under way to raise money for legal fees so the two former campaign aides could fund what was likely to be an expensive and lengthy legal battle.

In an interview this week, Mr. Dowd said he was motivated by frustration with how Mr. Manafort had been treated by investigators, not by a desire to interfere in the probe.

“I care about a lot of people,” Mr. Dowd said, criticizing investigators’ handling of the probe as overly harsh. “I was offended as a citizen and a lawyer.” Mr. Dowd said he was “not concerned at all” about Messrs. Manafort and Gates cooperating in the Mueller investigation into whether Trump associates colluded with Russia’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. election. Mr. Trump has denied collusion, and Moscow has denied interfering in the election.

When Mr. Gates pleaded guilty in late February to two charges of financial misdeeds, he owed more than $200,000 to some of his lawyers, according to people familiar with the matter.
Mr. Manafort, who was convicted on eight charges in a trial last month in Virginia, last week pleaded guilty to two federal crimes to stave off a second trial, and he agreed to cooperate with investigators. Mr. Gates was a witness for prosecutors at his trial. Mr. Manafort last year changed representation and at the time owed substantial sums in unpaid legal bills to his former law firm, according to people familiar with the matter.
 


Gonna need aepps20 aepps20 play by play for this

Hoping Beto establishes the jab early


Looking forward to it. Beto needs to go to the body early (attack Cruz on the tax cuts, supporting Trump, being an overall awful person), watch out for a right cross from Cruz (NFL protests and Blue Lives Matter) and finish things with a smooth left hook (Medicare for all and Cruz response to Botham Jean murder). AMAZING
 
Looking forward to it. Beto needs to go to the body early (attack Cruz on the tax cuts, supporting Trump, being an overall awful person), watch out for a right cross from Cruz (NFL protests and Blue Lives Matter) and finish things with a smooth left hook (Medicare for all and Cruz response to Botham Jean murder). AMAZING

Beto needs to play dirty as well. Below the belt stuff. "Why did your daddy help assassinate JFK?"
 
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