***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[chao7]

Is it possible that people died as a result of the after effects from the hurricane like no electricity, food, water, then yes that is possible. If that's what they're adding into the tally to bring the numbers up to 3000 then I can see where they're getting such a high number from.

That's exactly how death tolls are calculated after natural disasters. The response to the hurricane was insufficient and negligent. People were dying because the island's infrastructure was wiped out and they didn't even have clean water. There are still parts of the island that have no electricity.

He IS lying, and it's indefensible. Dude said Democrats made up a death toll. These numbers come from a government funded study - who controls all three branches of government again?

I was going to type something much nastier, but please do some sort of research before you post nonsense like this.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Yo... I'm sorry to say and admit to this, but he's not lying about this.

I don't know if to say it was done by Democrats, but yes, it is true what he's saying.

I don't know the exact count, not sure if it's 6-18 as he's saying, but they added on a lot of deaths not directly caused by the hurricane to the tally to heighten the numbers.

3000 people did not die from the hurricane Maria when it hit PR.

Is it possible that people died as a result of the after effects from the hurricane like no electricity, food, water, then yes that is possible. If that's what they're adding into the tally to bring the numbers up to 3000 then I can see where they're getting such a high number from.

So your logic is that since people didn't die when the storm hit, but instead by conditions caused by the storm, their deaths don't really count. So, if someone is killed by a levy breaking after Katrina, their death should be put aside too?

Your entire argument seems based on not understanding how death tallies work for natural disasters.

 

[chao7]

Yo....

I just read on some Twitter threads that SC is not evacuating prisoners for the hurricane.

This can't be life.

 

[the natural mystic]

Yo... I'm sorry to say and admit to this, but he's not lying about this.

I don't know if to say it was done by Democrats, but yes, it is true what he's saying.

I don't know the exact count, not sure if it's 6-18 as he's saying, but they added on a lot of deaths not directly caused by the hurricane to the tally to heighten the numbers.

3000 people did not die from the hurricane Maria when it hit PR.

Is it possible that people died as a result of the after effects from the hurricane like no electricity, food, water, then yes that is possible. If that's what they're adding into the tally to bring the numbers up to 3000 then I can see where they're getting such a high number from.

The reason there wasn't any electricity, food, and water is because of the Hurricane.......it's not a coincidence.

 

[RustyShackleford]

David French, to David Frum, to Erza Klein's to David Brooks, to Nathan Johnson have all pointed out the more serious issue with Trump is not Trump himself, but Trump's enablers. That post is a perfect example of rhetoric that enables Trump.

Trump post ******** about the death toll, makes a clearly fallacious claim about the Democrats, and implies people that suffered from his incompetentence and vile attacks should actually be thankful.

And in response someone uses poor logic, and no evidence to say he might be right. Also, opens the door for his lie about Democrats to fly.

 

[rillo561]

Kinda sounds like the argument made against Eric Garner death.

"It wasn't the choke hold, it was a heart attack that killed him. He was fat"

 

[RustyShackleford]

Yo....

I just read on some Twitter threads that SC is not evacuating prisoners for the hurricane.

This can't be life.

Yeah Vox had an article about it too.

******* sick

 

[chao7]

Yeah Vox had an article about it too.

****ing sick

I really don't want to be too conspiratorial, because that fact is horrendous enough, but...

Who doesn't vote in elections? Poor people displaced by natural disasters, many of whom are minorities.

Who would they have probably voted for? Following me?...

Who is most likely to immediately have safe harbor elsewhere, be able to return quickly and rebuild, and insulate themselves from most of the effects of a disaster?

Who are THOSE people voting for?

Really wish the situation wasn't bad enough that I believed this was plausible.

 

[130122]

Bruh gotta be trollin with that “hurricane aint kill those people” comment.

 

[IATT]

 

[rillo561]

There's probably a few more that's missing too.

 

[boris]

Yo... I'm sorry to say and admit to this, but he's not lying about this.

I don't know if to say it was done by Democrats, but yes, it is true what he's saying.

I don't know the exact count, not sure if it's 6-18 as he's saying, but they added on a lot of deaths not directly caused by the hurricane to the tally to heighten the numbers.

3000 people did not die from the hurricane Maria when it hit PR.

Is it possible that people died as a result of the after effects from the hurricane like no electricity, food, water, then yes that is possible. If that's what they're adding into the tally to bring the numbers up to 3000 then I can see where they're getting such a high number from.

When people die from the flu, it's often that they die from complications as a result of the flu.

 

[PatRiley]

Yo... I'm sorry to say and admit to this, but he's not lying about this.

I don't know if to say it was done by Democrats, but yes, it is true what he's saying.

I don't know the exact count, not sure if it's 6-18 as he's saying, but they added on a lot of deaths not directly caused by the hurricane to the tally to heighten the numbers.

3000 people did not die from the hurricane Maria when it hit PR.

Is it possible that people died as a result of the after effects from the hurricane like no electricity, food, water, then yes that is possible. If that's what they're adding into the tally to bring the numbers up to 3000 then I can see where they're getting such a high number from.

You trying to navigate this topic

 

[aepps20]

Yo... I'm sorry to say and admit to this, but he's not lying about this.

I don't know if to say it was done by Democrats, but yes, it is true what he's saying.

I don't know the exact count, not sure if it's 6-18 as he's saying, but they added on a lot of deaths not directly caused by the hurricane to the tally to heighten the numbers.

3000 people did not die from the hurricane Maria when it hit PR.

Is it possible that people died as a result of the after effects from the hurricane like no electricity, food, water, then yes that is possible. If that's what they're adding into the tally to bring the numbers up to 3000 then I can see where they're getting such a high number from.

Post of the year comrade. When a wildfire destroys everything we should only count the damage done by the flames not the smoke. The damage from Katrina wasn't too bad because hurricanes bring wind. The damage caused by flooding is totally different.

 

[cashbanks]

Bruh tossed a nonsense grenade and dipped

 

[HIM]

What a disgusting person. I'll be celebrating his impeachment and/or death.

 

[jape]

Yo... I'm sorry to say and admit to this, but he's not lying about this.

I don't know if to say it was done by Democrats, but yes, it is true what he's saying.

I don't know the exact count, not sure if it's 6-18 as he's saying, but they added on a lot of deaths not directly caused by the hurricane to the tally to heighten the numbers.

3000 people did not die from the hurricane Maria when it hit PR.

Is it possible that people died as a result of the after effects from the hurricane like no electricity, food, water, then yes that is possible. If that's what they're adding into the tally to bring the numbers up to 3000 then I can see where they're getting such a high number from.

 

[aepps20]

putting in work I'd like to be the first to welcome you to Coal Gang aka the Coalition. Excellent work keeping Dims and Libs honest. #SmashMouthPolitics

 

[dreamer23]

 

[putting in work]

No... I didn't run anywhere.

I've commented in this thread before about the dude that I worked with and I always reply with his comments about trump stuff.

I commented about the kids at the border in here about if you guys care so much you pay for them or take them into your home, you guys came at me.

That's what he's telling me as we discuss daily the doofus that is Trump and this dude is a die hard Trumptard no matter how much evidence it out there.

I'm not some insider that has inside information, but I did volunteer 3 week, 2 week, then 4 day to help after the hurricane hit.

I'm at work so I can't just sit and reply all day, but I ussually could today was busy.

I just like hearing from "their" side about things and he did try to convince me that while the death toll might be more than 6-8 as they first mentioned that this talk of 3000+ is from "fluffing" as he likes to put it by the media to make people hate Trump more to push "their agenda".

Yes I realize the 3000+ number came from the aftermaths and that's what I tried to tell him, but his responce was 9/11... do we count all those people that died from cancer and other illness the years after to add to the death count no, because you're not 100% sure if those deaths were a direct cause of 9/11. That's what he's trying to say that there is no solid proof showing that the causes of death is directly associated with the hurricane unless you do an autopsy of all 3000 people that died.

Not saying I agree with him, but he did have a point so we just continued our day. We usually have back and forth banter about Trump, but never get really into it. He is the Fox News, Rush Limbard, Trump type. Listens to it religously.

He's a real life aepps20 only thing is he's not acting. I'll try to keep up wiht the thread if possible, but sometimes it moves quick especially if trump says nonsense.

 

[boris]

The media should just call it like it is; the president is a really dumb human being.

When you deal with really dumb people, facts and logic don't matter anymore.

 

[putting in work]

i SHould have put in the beginning of my comment that the guy I work with like when I comented about kids at the border.

 

[chao7]

Yes I realize the 3000+ number came from the aftermaths and that's what I tried to tell him, but his responce was 9/11... do we count all those people that died from cancer and other illness the years after to add to the death count no, because you're not 100% sure if those deaths were a direct cause of 9/11.

That's EXACTLY what they do. There is still an adjustment on the 9/11 death toll to this day for first responders who breathed in carcinogenic dust to save others. Seriously, be quiet.

 

[blastercombo]

Some serious stupidity going on in here

 

[leavemeglazzies]

Yo... I'm sorry to say and admit to this, but he's not lying about this.

No, you're not.