***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[nawghtyhare]

Never was a big nb guy, i didnt even know about that **** in 2016. Now the trump nb memes make sense

What happened with nb???
What they do in 2016

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Jim Carrey looking like he got a new woman in his life.

 

[kdawg]

Magnificent!

 

[Belgium]

I think this Bloomberg interactive roadmap of conflicts and investigationes around the Trump administration is probably of interest to posters here. They update it regularly and provide a clean overview of who's under investigation, what are the allegations, associated data and graphs, ...
If you have understandably lost track of the sheer number of allegations and investigations, this can serve as a pretty easy reminder.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/trump-administration-conflicts/?srnd=premium

For example, here's an excerpt of Pruitt's section, the part containing the data on his scrutinized spending habits. (source: EPA)

 

[wavycrocket]

I think this Bloomberg interactive roadmap of conflicts and investigationes around the Trump administration is probably of interest to posters here. They update it regularly and provide a clean overview of who's under investigation, what are the allegations, associated data and graphs, ...
If you have understandably lost track of the sheer number of allegations and investigations, this can serve as a pretty easy reminder.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/trump-administration-conflicts/?srnd=premium

For example, here's an excerpt of Pruitt's section, the part containing the data on his scrutinized spending habits. (source: EPA)

TCF

Trump Crime Family

They should get a chain. All that corruption

 

[RustyShackleford]

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Pettygang

 

[boris]

 

[blastercombo]

New balance gonna step up and tell these dudes to kick rocks or what?

 

[hand2handking]

Win or Lose, Kavanaugh Confirmation Fight Defines Democrats

https://www.yahoo.com/news/win-lose-kavanaugh-confirmation-fight-160051548.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats don't have the votes to block Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. But that didn't stop them from putting up a rowdy, leave-nothing-on-the-table fight during four days of Senate confirmation hearings that marked a new stage in the party's resistance to President Donald Trump.

From the moment that the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman gaveled in the first session, the proceedings were tumultuous, disrupted first by Democratic senators objecting to the rules and then by protesters shouting "Sham president, sham vote" and other chants.

Sen. Chuck Grassley, an 84-year-old Iowa Republican, later said it was like nothing he had ever experienced during 15 Supreme Court confirmation hearings.

The bedlam is unlikely to change any votes in the Senate. The mathematic march toward Kavanaugh's confirmation at month's end remains the same in the Senate, where Republicans hold a51-49 edge. Still, the battle may have changed the Democrats, who are being transformed by a new generation of politicians spoiling for a fight with Trump, even if it creates political challenges for some Democratic candidates in the November election.

"Sometimes you just have to make a stand," said Brian Fallon, a former top adviser to Hillary Clinton and the Senate's top Democrat, New York's Chuck Schumer. Fallon's organization, Demand Justice, is leading the opposition to Kavanaugh.

Fallon compared the decision on the court nominee to big votes of the past such as the Iraq War authorization that end up defining lawmakers' careers.

"This vote is not going to age well," Fallon said. He is holding out hope that not only will Democrats reject Kavanaugh, but that two pivotal Republicans, Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine, will join in to help stop the confirmation.

"Democrats should fight like hell," he said, "even if it's not going to sway Susan Collins."

Republicans have been eager to capitalize on the political "circus," as they called the hearing, particularly as potential 2020 presidential hopefuls Sens. Kamala Harris of California and Cory Booker of New Jersey took turns aggressively questioning Kavanaugh in what many saw as a prelude to presidential primary campaigns.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., portrayed the Democratic Party as dominated by "unhinged" protesters and aligned with liberals calling to abolish U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The second-ranking Republican, Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, bemoaned the "mob rule" at the hearings.

Trump took on his potential 2020 rivals directly. During campaign stops for GOP candidates challenging Senate Democrats this fall in Montana and North Dakota, states where Trump remains popular, he ridiculed Democrats as "making fools out of themselves."

"The way they're screaming and shouting, it's a disgrace to our country actually," Trump said Friday during a fundraiser in Fargo, North Dakota, for the GOP opponent to Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp. "I'll be running against them and I look so forward to it."

With the midterms less than two months away, Kavanaugh's nomination carries political risks for both parties as they potentially alienate the large swath of independent voters who have big say in elections.

"Independents are looking for things to work," said David Winston, a Republican pollster. But he said the showy, disruptive display at the Kavanaugh hearing "reinforces their concerns of people not focusing on the challenges the country faces."

Democratic senators running for re-election in states where Trump is popular have the most to lose from the party's Supreme Court fight.

Sens. Joe Donnelly in Indiana or Claire McCaskill in Missouri may benefit from a court battle that energizes the Democratic base. They need heavy voter turnout in metro Indianapolis and Kansas City, Democratic strongholds, if they have any hope of carrying otherwise red states that Trump won in 2016.

Yet the court fight might be unhelpful as some Democrats, including Heitkamp in North Dakota and Sen. Joe Manchin in West Virginia, try to appeal to the moderate Republicans and independents they need to win over.

"It's probably the last thing that Democrats running for re-election in red states want to be talking about," said Alex Conant, a Republican strategist and former top aide to Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla.

Before the hearings began, Schumer gathered Democrats for a weekend conference call to plot strategy. They debated options, Schumer said, but decided on a strategy of staying in the room for questions, protest and disruption.

At a time when Democrats are churning as a party, they're also awakening to the political potency of judicial nominees, a longtime GOP priority.

Gone are the niceties and overtures of an earlier era, when senators deferred to a president's prerogative to put in place a qualified nominee of the commander in chief's choosing.

Trump is a different kind of president, they say, and the Senate a changed institution after President Barack Obama's pick for the Supreme Court, Merrick Garland, was denied a hearing or vote.

Schumer, on Friday, seemed pleased with the result of the hard-edged approach. He said in a statement that Democrats "were able to shine a bright light — for the American people and Republican Senators to see — on Judge Kavanaugh's troubling views on women's rights, presidential power, and protections for people with pre-existing conditions."

"This was a good week."

 

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[IATT]

 

[boris]

I would love to see Trump try to pray. I can only imagine what god awful stream of consciousness that would devolve into.

 

[Captain Slappy]

Edit. My factually inaccurate rant

 

[Belgium]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bob-wo...wake-up-to-whats-going-on-in-the-oval-office/
Bob Woodward: "People better wake up to what's going on" in the Oval Office

Excerpt:
The most dangerous moment of the standoff, Woodward says, came when the president went to work on another tweet: "He drafts a tweet saying 'We are going to pull out dependents from South Korea ... Family members of the 28,000 people there.'"

That tweet was never sent, because of a back channel message from North Korea that it would regard a pullout of dependents as a sign the U.S. was preparing to attack. "At that moment there was a sense of profound alarm in the Pentagon leadership that, 'My God, one tweet and we have reliable information that the North Koreans are going to read this as an attack is imminent,'" Woodward said.


Excerpt 2:
When Economic Adviser Gary Cohn was upset over the president's reluctance to condemn white supremacists for the violence in Charlottesville he went into the Oval Office to resign. According to Woodward, "Trump said, 'You can't resign. I need you to do tax reform. If you leave, this is treason.' And Trump talked him out of resigning."

Afterwards, Chief of Staff John Kelly, who had been in the room, pulled Cohn aside: "Cohn wrote this down, quote from General Kelly: 'If that was me I would have taken that resignation letter and shoved it up his *** six different times.'"


Excerpt 3:
Aides like then-Chief Economic Adviser Gary Cohn and White House Staff Secretary Rob Porter literally stole documents off the president's desk in the Oval Office, such as a letter terminating a trade agreement with South Korea, so that, Woodward explained, Mr. Trump could not sign them: "Because they realized that this would endanger the country."

Martin asked, "How'd they get away with that?"

"[Trump] doesn't remember. If it's not on his desk, if it's not immediately available for action, it goes away."

 

[boris]

But at least people got some extra money in their tax returns and paychecks.

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bob-wo...wake-up-to-whats-going-on-in-the-oval-office/
Bob Woodward: "People better wake up to what's going on" in the Oval Office

Excerpt:
The most dangerous moment of the standoff, Woodward says, came when the president went to work on another tweet: "He drafts a tweet saying 'We are going to pull out dependents from South Korea ... Family members of the 28,000 people there.'"

That tweet was never sent, because of a back channel message from North Korea that it would regard a pullout of dependents as a sign the U.S. was preparing to attack. "At that moment there was a sense of profound alarm in the Pentagon leadership that, 'My God, one tweet and we have reliable information that the North Koreans are going to read this as an attack is imminent,'" Woodward said.


Excerpt 2:
When Economic Adviser Gary Cohn was upset over the president's reluctance to condemn white supremacists for the violence in Charlottesville he went into the Oval Office to resign. According to Woodward, "Trump said, 'You can't resign. I need you to do tax reform. If you leave, this is treason.' And Trump talked him out of resigning."

Afterwards, Chief of Staff John Kelly, who had been in the room, pulled Cohn aside: "Cohn wrote this down, quote from General Kelly: 'If that was me I would have taken that resignation letter and shoved it up his *** six different times.'"


Excerpt 3:
Aides like then-Chief Economic Adviser Gary Cohn and White House Staff Secretary Rob Porter literally stole documents off the president's desk in the Oval Office, such as a letter terminating a trade agreement with South Korea, so that, Woodward explained, Mr. Trump could not sign them: "Because they realized that this would endanger the country."

Martin asked, "How'd they get away with that?"

"[Trump] doesn't remember. If it's not on his desk, if it's not immediately available for action, it goes away."

And yet this behavior is in line with all the accounts of how trump has acted for decades.

 

[Nike Jordan]

 

[whywesteppin]

Edit. My factually inaccurate rant

Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

 

[Belgium]

http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-...testimony-may-help-demonstrate-trump-campaign
Papadopoulos: My testimony could help demonstrate collusion between Trump campaign and Russia
Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos suggested Sunday that his testimony could help special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation demonstrate collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

"Do you think when the entire Mueller investigation is finished that they will demonstrate that there was collusion between the Trump campaign, Trump advisers and the Russians?" ABC's George Stephanopoulos asked Papadopoulos on "This Week."

"I have no idea," the former Trump campaign adviser responded. "All I can say is my testimony might have helped move something towards that."

Papadopoulos insisted that he could not comment on further details of his conversations with Justice Department officials, given Mueller's special counsel investigation is ongoing.

Papadopoulos was sentenced on Friday to fourteen days in federal prison and one year supervised release for lying to FBI investigators about his Russia contacts during the 2016 election. He pleaded guilty in October to lying to FBI agents and is the first Trump campaign official to be sentenced as part of Mueller's probe.

Papadopoulos told ABC that he did not believe he incriminated President Trump in cooperating with Mueller's probe.

"Of course I'm remorseful, I'm contrite and I did lie [to the FBI] but you know you're just taken off guard, I guess, in such a momentous occasion where you're potentially sitting there incriminating the president. Even though, of course, I don't think I did," he said.

"That was probably in the back of my mind, of what exactly am I doing here talking about Russian hacking or election interference with a candidate that I just worked for," he added.

 

[gry60]

What happened with nb???
What they do in 2016

Their PR team dropped a letter of support for Trump. The WS latched onto it, and some WS went on to declare NBs the shoes of white people.

I wouldn't care if I lived in the city, but I don't, and I'm not trying to make some confederate flag-wearing fool think that I'm part of the negro right-wing alliance and down for their cause.

 

[willycheesesteak]

00:38

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

So I get a right wing ad just now in the middle of my hoodrich pablo juan playlist on youtube . Folks out here legit pushing propaganda and I’m just tryna jam some trap smh

 

[nomnom]

 

[RustyShackleford]

Alex Jones is going through it right now