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This ******* Clarke guy... always looks like he is about to cry over how badass he himself is.
Mother effing clown.
Mother effing clown.
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All those pins on his jacket don't mean ****. He puts them there himself. Probably gets them from the 99cent store.
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Minimizing racism as truly believing people of color are inferior, KKK members, ... is in a way also furthering the white supremacist ideology.
Racism and the system of white supremacy come in various forms.
A very common response from someone who is accused of racism in some shape or form is that they can't be racist because they have black friends or because they employ black workers.
"How could I hate black people when I hang out with them?" in essence. It is the dumbest counter-argument one could possibly muster up and has zero relevance to the argument.
Even in this thread we have seen the use of that argument, primarily by those who have since been perm banned for racist remarks. They would apply the most restrictive definition of racism possible and then deny any accusations of racism simply by saying they either have black friends or in some cases because they claimed to employ African-Americans in their business.
Regarding racism in various forms, an example would be the way stop and frisk was implemented in NYC. That policy was applied in a racist manner as the NYPD's crime statistics clearly suggest.
Its implementation was also later ruled unconstitutional in NYC over civil liberty violations.
Let's look at the numbers.
The likelihood a stop of an African American New Yorker yielded a weapon was half that of white New Yorkers stopped. The NYPD uncovered a weapon in one out every 49 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 71 stops of Latinos and 93 stops of African Americans to find a weapon.
The likelihood a stop of an African American New Yorker yielded contraband was one-third less than that of white New Yorkers stopped. The NYPD uncovered contraband in one out every 43 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 57 stops of Latinos and 61 stops of African Americans to find contraband.
Now take a glance back at the statistics in the above quote.
Year after year after year, whites continued to make up between 8 and 12% of all stops, despite NYPD statistics showing they carried weapons and contraband at higher rates than those who are black or latino.
Yet latino and black people continued to make up between 82 and 87% of all stops. Year after year.
Note that 43.1% of NYC's population is white. (source: 2016 Census Bureau)
To me those statistics, coming from none other than the NYPD's own records, constitute clear evidence that NYPD applied stop and frisk in a racist manner. Their own data showed an overwhelming majority of people stopped were entirely innocent and it also showed that whites carried both weapons and contraband at significantly higher rates. However they completely disregarded their own data and continued focusing almost entirely on people who were black or latino.
I think any reasonable examination of those records would come to the same conclusion.
The above is an example of how racism is more than just believing people of color are inferior and/or having immense hatred for them.
Ninjahood for example stuck by a very narrow definition of racism and described systemic racism as a leftist complete fabrication. The above implementation of stop and frisk in NYC remains a good example of systemic racism.
Ninja however fiercely defended the practice in NYC and went as far as advocating for a nationwide implementation of stop and frisk when Trump proposed doing so.
Despite being a black man, he often found himself defending racist practices or denying altogether that a policy could be racist in nature. Particularly when there was some overlap with Trump he ramped up his defense of racist practices, remarks, ... or denied their existence entirely. This resulted in him being called out by NT's administrator for engaging in racist behavior by defending practices or views that were racist in nature.
As far as he was concerned, Martin Luther King accomplished his mission for the most part. He referred to white supremacy as a leftist fable and the list goes on and on.
Another example of racism in various forms is certain implementations of voter ID laws.
The GOP has often sought to disenfranchize and discourage African-Americans from voting under the guise of voter ID laws. On its face, voter ID seems sensible. However in practice it is often used to specifically target African-Americans.
North Carolina for example. Prior to passing their voter ID law, the state requested data on black voting patterns.
Key parts of that voter ID law were later struck down by the courts, with the judge's ruling describing the law as "targeting African-Americans with almost surgical precision."
A N.C. Republican strategist/consultant later gave a statement on the record to media outlet Vox and admitted that of course the voter ID law was made primarily to target African-Americans, not voter fraud which is extremely rare.
However he insisted that it was not racist because he claimed the African-Americans were targeted because they primarily vote Democratic. Whether that is true or not, the implementation of that voter ID law clearly targeted a specific race with the intent of disenfranchizing them and/or discouraging them from voting.
North Carolina is hardly the only Republican state to have engaged in such practices.
Alabama for example has in the past instituted a voter ID law and then proceeded to shut down DMV's (where you can get a voter ID) in predominantly black areas.
This occured somewhere in 2015 and a federal probe found that the move disproportionately hurt African-Americans. The state then reversed some of the closures and expanded opening hours but it's another example of how a policy can have some racially motivated intent behind it.
The GOP nationwide continues to advocate for strict voter ID laws, despite numerous iterations being struck down by the courts for being discriminatory.
In each case they defended the law to the very end and have never apologized for the racially motivated intent behind some of them.
There have been a number of prominent Republicans who in their own words have described various aspects of racism that can't simply be described under the most narrow definition of racism.
I'll start with a quote from Nixon's political strategist regarding the infamous 'Southern Strategy'
"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."
Next I'll bring up Lee Atwater's 1981 quote: (pretty sure you can guess the censored word)
You start out in 1954 by saying, "******, ******, ******." By 1968 you can't say "******" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "******, ******."
And on a final note, a quote from Nixon's chief of domestic policy, John Erlichman. You may recall his name from the Watergate scandal.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people."
"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
Racism can come in many forms, often far more complex than some old man who hates black people. Sticking to a very narrow definition of racism is not only shortsighted, it furthers to agenda of white supremacy.
Racism and the system of white supremacy come in various forms.
A very common response from someone who is accused of racism in some shape or form is that they can't be racist because they have black friends or because they employ black workers.
"How could I hate black people when I hang out with them?" in essence. It is the dumbest counter-argument one could possibly muster up and has zero relevance to the argument.
Even in this thread we have seen the use of that argument, primarily by those who have since been perm banned for racist remarks. They would apply the most restrictive definition of racism possible and then deny any accusations of racism simply by saying they either have black friends or in some cases because they claimed to employ African-Americans in their business.
Regarding racism in various forms, an example would be the way stop and frisk was implemented in NYC. That policy was applied in a racist manner as the NYPD's crime statistics clearly suggest.
Its implementation was also later ruled unconstitutional in NYC over civil liberty violations.
Let's look at the numbers.
And from the NYPD themselves during the stop and frisk trial:
The likelihood a stop of an African American New Yorker yielded a weapon was half that of white New Yorkers stopped. The NYPD uncovered a weapon in one out every 49 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 71 stops of Latinos and 93 stops of African Americans to find a weapon.
The likelihood a stop of an African American New Yorker yielded contraband was one-third less than that of white New Yorkers stopped. The NYPD uncovered contraband in one out every 43 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 57 stops of Latinos and 61 stops of African Americans to find contraband.
Now take a glance back at the statistics in the above quote.
Year after year after year, whites continued to make up between 8 and 12% of all stops, despite NYPD statistics showing they carried weapons and contraband at higher rates than those who are black or latino.
Yet latino and black people continued to make up between 82 and 87% of all stops. Year after year.
Note that 43.1% of NYC's population is white. (source: 2016 Census Bureau)
To me those statistics, coming from none other than the NYPD's own records, constitute clear evidence that NYPD applied stop and frisk in a racist manner. Their own data showed an overwhelming majority of people stopped were entirely innocent and it also showed that whites carried both weapons and contraband at significantly higher rates. However they completely disregarded their own data and continued focusing almost entirely on people who were black or latino.
I think any reasonable examination of those records would come to the same conclusion.
The above is an example of how racism is more than just believing people of color are inferior and/or having immense hatred for them.
Ninjahood for example stuck by a very narrow definition of racism and described systemic racism as a leftist complete fabrication. The above implementation of stop and frisk in NYC remains a good example of systemic racism.
Ninja however fiercely defended the practice in NYC and went as far as advocating for a nationwide implementation of stop and frisk when Trump proposed doing so.
Despite being a black man, he often found himself defending racist practices or denying altogether that a policy could be racist in nature. Particularly when there was some overlap with Trump he ramped up his defense of racist practices, remarks, ... or denied their existence entirely. This resulted in him being called out by NT's administrator for engaging in racist behavior by defending practices or views that were racist in nature.
As far as he was concerned, Martin Luther King accomplished his mission for the most part. He referred to white supremacy as a leftist fable and the list goes on and on.
Another example of racism in various forms is certain implementations of voter ID laws.
The GOP has often sought to disenfranchize and discourage African-Americans from voting under the guise of voter ID laws. On its face, voter ID seems sensible. However in practice it is often used to specifically target African-Americans.
North Carolina for example. Prior to passing their voter ID law, the state requested data on black voting patterns.
Key parts of that voter ID law were later struck down by the courts, with the judge's ruling describing the law as "targeting African-Americans with almost surgical precision."
A N.C. Republican strategist/consultant later gave a statement on the record to media outlet Vox and admitted that of course the voter ID law was made primarily to target African-Americans, not voter fraud which is extremely rare.
However he insisted that it was not racist because he claimed the African-Americans were targeted because they primarily vote Democratic. Whether that is true or not, the implementation of that voter ID law clearly targeted a specific race with the intent of disenfranchizing them and/or discouraging them from voting.
North Carolina is hardly the only Republican state to have engaged in such practices.
Alabama for example has in the past instituted a voter ID law and then proceeded to shut down DMV's (where you can get a voter ID) in predominantly black areas.
This occured somewhere in 2015 and a federal probe found that the move disproportionately hurt African-Americans. The state then reversed some of the closures and expanded opening hours but it's another example of how a policy can have some racially motivated intent behind it.
The GOP nationwide continues to advocate for strict voter ID laws, despite numerous iterations being struck down by the courts for being discriminatory.
In each case they defended the law to the very end and have never apologized for the racially motivated intent behind some of them.
There have been a number of prominent Republicans who in their own words have described various aspects of racism that can't simply be described under the most narrow definition of racism.
I'll start with a quote from Nixon's political strategist regarding the infamous 'Southern Strategy'
"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."
Next I'll bring up Lee Atwater's 1981 quote: (pretty sure you can guess the censored word)
You start out in 1954 by saying, "******, ******, ******." By 1968 you can't say "******" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "******, ******."
And on a final note, a quote from Nixon's chief of domestic policy, John Erlichman. You may recall his name from the Watergate scandal.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people."
"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
Racism can come in many forms, often far more complex than some old man who hates black people. Sticking to a very narrow definition of racism is not only shortsighted, it furthers to agenda of white supremacy.
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I wouldnt say that 60 and 79% are a 'few'...
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Anytime comrade
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@dwalk31 looks like nobody is getting arrested. Everything is fine.
As a reminder, Collins was part of the Trump's transition team too.
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The New Jim Crow.
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I don't think sheriff Clarke even served in the military. 
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I don't think sheriff Clarke even served in the military.
I think he fought in the lib/American war in 2016.
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He's got a star for every dozen or so Libbie and Antifa supersoldier hemp bracelet he brought back
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Bill Russell numbers incomng anyday now
'You're getting indicted, you're getting indicted, everyone's getting indicted!!'
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Soeveeyine who works for him is going to jail ...... but I guess he had nothing to do with it right??
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Was that the great bowling green massacre? #NEVERFORGET
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We lost a lot of REAL Americans. RIP Viktor A.
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A real American and true Assassin
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Bill is a rapist. Why is he allowed to speak on any matter?
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