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It seems to me that kim doesnt mind "denuclearization" or whatever they decide to define as denuclearization. Trump already gave him what he wanted, and that's a nice place at the world stage (Hence the new and improved Kim Jung Un) Kim will take what he can.

Just more fodder for that core percent
 


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I find it odd that this news broke after house committee opposed the ZTE deal trump had in the works with china

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...u-s-trade-deficit-officials-say-idUSKCN1II1XF

China offering Trump package to slash U.S. trade deficit, officials say

Steve Holland, David Lawder
5 MIN READ


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - China is offering U.S. President Donald Trump a package of trade concessions and increased purchases of American goods aimed at cutting the U.S. trade deficit with China by up to $200 billion a year, U.S. officials familiar with the proposal said.

News of the offer came during the first of two days of U.S.-China trade talks in Washington focused on resolving tariff threats between the world’s two largest economies. But it was not immediately clear how the total value was determined.

One of the sources said U.S. aircraft maker Boeing Co (BA.N) would be a major beneficiary of the Chinese offer if Trump were to accept it. Boeing is the largest U.S. exporter and already sells about a quarter of its commercial aircraft to Chinese customers.

Another person familiar with the talks said the package may include some elimination of Chinese tariffs already in place on about $4 billion worth of U.S. farm products including fruit, nuts, pork, wine and sorghum.



A White House statement described the meetings as part of “ongoing trade discussions” and said Trump met with the Chinese delegation led by Vice Premier Liu He and the U.S. team led by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“The United States officials conveyed the President’s clear goal for a fair trading relationship with China,” the White House sai


The top-line number in the Chinese offer would largely match a request presented to Chinese officials two weeks ago by Trump administration officials in Beijing.

But getting to a $200 billion reduction of the U.S. China trade deficit on a sustainable basis would require a massive change in the composition of trade between the two countries, as the U.S. goods deficit was $375 billion last year.

The United States’ two biggest exports to China were aircraft at $16 billion last year, and soybeans, at $12 billion.

‘ENORMOUS NUMBER’
Some China trade watchers expressed skepticism that such a $200 billion reduction could be achieved quickly and said the offer may include repackaged commitments previously announced by China.

“That’s an enormous number and it suggests that there could be some impressively ambitious accounting,” said Scott Mulhauser, a former chief of staff at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing and U.S. Export-Import Bank official who now advises companies on trade issues.

Agreeing to a deal focused primarily on reducing the trade deficit could also weaken Trump’s original tariff goal of pressuring China to end policies that his administration says are aimed at misappropriating U.S. technology - a bigger structural change for China’s state-driven economic model.

The U.S. officials did not have details on China’s demands in exchange for the concessions. The New York Times reported that China was asking Trump to set aside threats of tariffs on Chinese goods and U.S. investment restrictions on Chinese companies.

The Times also reported that China wanted a relaxation of U.S. export controls that ban American firms from selling certain high-technology products to China.

Earlier on Thursday, Trump criticized China as being “very spoiled” on trade with the United States, but said he was aiming for an overall deal with China.

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Trump said China had “ripped off” the United States for too long and that he told Chinese President Xi Jinping that “we just can’t do that anymore.”

ZTE ‘SMALL COMPONENT’ OF DEAL
Trump also said that possible modifications to crushing restrictions that have paralyzed Chinese telecommunications equipment maker ZTE Corp (000063.SZ) (0763.HK) could be part of a trade deal. He said on Twitter on Sunday that he had ordered the U.S. Commerce Department to put ZTE back in business.

He said that Xi had asked him to look into the matter and he agreed to do so, adding that ZTE bought a lot of components from U.S. companies.

“Anything we do with ZTE, it’s just a small component of the overall deal. I can only tell you this: We’re going to come out fine with China. Hopefully, China will be happy, I think we’ll be happy,” Trump said.

Trump has threatened to impose up to $150 billion in punitive tariffs to combat what he says is Beijing’s misappropriation of U.S. technology through joint venture requirements and other policies. Beijing has threatened equal retaliation, including tariffs on some of its largest U.S. imports, including aircraft, soybeans and autos.

Patiently waiting to see the details to this finesse. Because something is up
 
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...u-s-trade-deficit-officials-say-idUSKCN1II1XF



Patiently waiting to see the details to this finesse. Because something is up

I can see the finesse already.

Buy American weaponry (Boeing) and reverse engineer the **** out of it. Lose $200 Billion now, gain hegemony later.

Since China doesn't seem likely to reverse their decision to buy soybeans and other products from middle America, it still doesn't help Trump's base anyway, but for a businessman money is money. Right? He can take his fulfilled promise of "reducing the trade deficit" to his starved and destitute base (can't sell your corn abroad no more) while the Chinese acquire, learn about, improve on, and sell our military tech to the rest of the world.
 
I can see the finesse already.

Buy American weaponry (Boeing) and reverse engineer the **** out of it. Lose $200 Billion now, gain hegemony later.

Since China doesn't seem likely to reverse their decision to buy soybeans and other products from middle America, it still doesn't help Trump's base anyway, but for a businessman money is money. Right? He can take his fulfilled promise of "reducing the trade deficit" to his starved and destitute base (can't sell your corn abroad no more) while the Chinese acquire, learn about, improve on, and sell our military tech to the rest of the world.
My dude, all that will trickle down to us bruh. Everybody eats.



-my African American over there
 
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Well China is helping finance a trump real estate project in Indonesia so that’s what he gets. And

How he hasn’t been prosecuted for improper enrichment through position is beyond me. Then again the finance committee who gets information for regulations before they go into effect can trade on this insider information like it’s nothing so why am I surprised. A bill to stop it didn’t even make it to the floor for a vote. In this sense both parties are equal unfortunately.
 
common sense would tell you trump+china+russia=no Bueno for United States

this guys insistence in dealing with dictators, communists and authoritarians should be unbelievably uncomfortable for any American. Specifically with the current situation where he's "negotiating" with communists about lifting a ban on zte (which wouldn't allow them to use android on their phones) a company that's currently banned for illegally shipping US supplies to Iran, a company who poses a security risk to this countries telecomm networks in regards to government (because china can order them to open backdoors on the phone and identify locations etc. (which they deny)). All for a measly 30-40 billion dollar annual difference to the trillion dollar deficit we're in with china. How is that a win? Or is it indeed a win but he's pocketing the difference through other deals like Ivanka selling her junk china, and the Indonesia thing mentioned above.
 
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Then again the finance committee who gets information for regulations before they go into effect can trade on this insider information like it’s nothing so why am I surprised. A bill to stop it didn’t even make it to the floor for a vote. In this sense both parties are equal unfortunately.

finance committee seems to be an invaluable tool for somebody somewhere, lately its been more than just coincidence. Specifically with bans on zte which would hurt android, warren buffet doubles down with another 72 million shares of apple. Trump raises concerns over lifting sanctions... house committee shuts it down today to protect someones investments. Also noticed it when Zuckerberg got his "grilling" for the Cambridge analytica stuff which wouldve tanked any other company, clearly anyone who watched that would see through the ********. The media wrote it off to "Oh they're old, what do they know about facebook" then Zuckerberg blesses them with IMTE which shot up 1000% and made a lot of people a lot of money. Lately its just too much of a coincidence with this administration. A few others I wont get into but backing out of Iran deal affecting oil and gas, and china tariffs affecting American steel. I understand news like that is "fundamental" for traders but I simply don't trust trump who is more than liable to profit from that insider information, he's very clearly creating these catalysts in the market if not outright selling them.

AMERICA FOR SALE 2020
 
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Sadly, Donald Trump has no reason to fear any real consequences for his corruption. He has several reasons to be insouciant:

- If voters (or at least enough voters to win in the Electoral College) can forgive him for bragging about sexual assault and ridiculing former POWs and Gold star families, it is doubtful that issues, understood mostly by people with MBA's and JD's, will move the needle with most voters.

- The GOP has no interest in checking his corruption. A blue wave is unlikely to expose Trump to an impeachment and subsequent conviction.

- If he is impeached and convicted, he merely loses his office and his legal immunity that comes with it. In order for him to lose his freedom and his lucre that came from his corruption, he would have to be prosecuted. It would be a Federal prosecution and his defense team would be loaded. Even though Trump, himself, never pays lawyers, the entire GOP donor class and members of Congress, who engage in similar corrupt behavior, would have stake in seeing Trump exonerated.

Trump's Donor/GOP funded defense team would try ever legal trick imaginable and if a District Court says no, then we'd get appeals to the Circuit Court and if the Circuit Courts do not oblige, then the Supreme Court, stacked with GOP and Trump appointees would weigh in.



I do not want folks to feel hopeless and give up. I just want to emphasize that it would require at least two wave elections in Democrats' favor in order to put Trump in any sort of personal and legal jeopardy.
 
this mf trump think he slick tryna spin it back on ms13

Knowing damn well somebody gave him the idea to say that instead like 5 min ago
 
I posted a report yesterday about the Treasury Dept's internal watchdog considering an investigation into allegations of 2 suspicious activity reports (SARs) about Cohen were missing from the FinCEN database.

I mentioned that another possibility was that the 2 missing SARs could be under restricted access as part of being deemed highly sensitive material in an ongoing investigation. However that is also be quite unusual. Law enforcement agencies can make that request and some higher up in the Treasury Department would restrict the access.

However what stood out to me is that the SAR that was leaked was not missing, even though it referenced the missing 2 SARs and thereby confirmed their existence. The data from just that one leaked suspicious activity report caused plenty of controversy already; multiple big companies, including one tied to a Russian oligarch, paid large amounts of dollars to Cohen's shell company.

That prompted companies like AT&T and others to confirm the payments but also to claim Cohen was a waste of money etc. There were also a number of firings in these companies after the Cohen payments were public.


So what I'm wondering about is if SDNY or Mueller requested to restrict access to those 2 Cohen SARs on the FinCEN database, why was this not the case for the leaked SAR despite it referencing the 2 missing SARs? Why would prosecutors seal 2 of the 3 Cohen SARs and not the third one despite it confirming the existence of those 2 other SARs.
Seems awfully suspicious to me personally.
And more importantly, what is so bad about the content of those 2 other SARs that caused them to be restricted or removed but not the leaked report?e



I know it's Buzzfeed but they've proven to have evolved from being a more tabloid-ish outlet and hired far more competent journalists given their work covering the Russia probe.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonaleopold/cohen-sars?utm_term=.sbNdxW44a8#.le6ElPLLyw
Sources Say Cohen Financial Records Not Missing, Just Restricted
Three sources told BuzzFeed News that Treasury Department officials have taken the highly unusual step of restricting access to suspicious activity reports.
 
finance committee seems to be an invaluable tool for somebody somewhere, lately its been more than just coincidence. Specifically with bans on zte which would hurt android, warren buffet doubles down with another 72 million shares of apple. Trump raises concerns over lifting sanctions... house committee shuts it down today to protect someones investments. Also noticed it when Zuckerberg got his "grilling" for the Cambridge analytica stuff which wouldve tanked any other company, clearly anyone who watched that would see through the bull****. The media wrote it off to "Oh they're old, what do they know about facebook" then Zuckerberg blesses them with IMTE which shot up 1000% and made a lot of people a lot of money. Lately its just too much of a coincidence with this administration. A few others I wont get into but backing out of Iran deal affecting oil and gas, and china tariffs affecting American steel. I understand news like that is "fundamental" for traders but I simply don't trust trump who is more than liable to profit from that insider information, he's very clearly creating these catalysts in the market if not outright selling them.

AMERICA FOR SALE 2020

Had to be blind to not see it.

rico x hood rico x hood You said a few pages ago that the Carrier deal was a good deal. I think the CEO (Greg Hayes) agrees, but for different reasons.



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ceo-united-technologies-just-let-231538059.html

So the state of Indiana will be missing out on $7 million to keep the jobs here temporarily, instead of negotiating for retraining dollars and other assistance packages to invest in the workforce that will be cut.

In addition, Carrier gets to invest $16 million in outfitting their factories with robots.

Let's not even account for the incoming tax rate reductions that will deplete the coffers of state and federal treasuries and force them to cut services for people displaced by either foreign labor or automation (aka CHEAPER labor).

Like I said, let's just put a "For Sale" sign in the hand of the Statue of Liberty.

I'll give you the political side. People trust Trump because he's good in business. The carrier deal was a win. You can actually quantify how many jobs were saved. Unlike Obama where they would tout how many jobs were saved due to the Recovery because no one knew whether they would have been lost or not. And Trump isn't even President yet.

But I go back to the point I made earlier, the Inauguration hasn't happened yet so everything we discuss is hypothetical. But that carrier deal definitely earned him some political capital. Emphasis on political

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