***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[AEA18]

Athletes with some backbone.

Would never happen in the NFL.

To be fair, contracts are way more fragile and the players' professional lives are short.

I'm all for standing up for what you believe in but I'm not blaming anyone for not messing with feeding their families

If I was on the Pats and the dude (Brady) that had been endorsing the orange clown decided last minute he wasn't going, I damn sure wouldn't have went.

Sorry Kraft and Belichick I got personal family matters that need attending to as well.

 

[rolaholic]

^^^The league's hypocrisy knows no bounds

Speaking of MJ though, senile old grand dragon Sessions asked congress to be allowed to go after and prosecute medicinal marijuana dispensaries/providers

This DOJ is hellbent on setting the country back decades

 

[sonoftony]

The Warriors will reportedly skip the White House visit.

Athletes with some backbone.

Would never happen in the NFL.

Too many house boys in the NFL.

Too many slave masters as franchise owners

 

[Belgium]

Word,look no further than Kaep being blackballed for speaking out against police brutality...

The negative responses to Kaep kneeling to protest against racism and police brutality (aka patriotism) is pretty disturbing to me. Same with the constant pledges of allegiance etc.
Those people would have an aneurysm in Belgium

Personally I've never had to pledge allegiance and the only time I've had to sing the national anthem is a few times in music class in elementary. Other than that I have never been required or expected to sing the anthem since then.

Hence why I literally don't know a single line of our anthem. Neither do my parents or everyone else I know.

The only time I see Belgian flags is when our national soccer team is playing a big match. Not a single flag in sight on our national holiday but if our national team is playing a big match in the FIFA Worldcup or the Euros cup there's flags on the houses everywhere

Even better, most of our national team doesn't seem to have a clue what our anthem is either. Either that or they just don't care since most of them never sing along. Doesn't bother anyone here, we'd me more surprised if our national team started singing the anthem all of a sudden

I'm certainly a proud Belgian and love my country but I don't see knowing the anthem or (repeatedly) pledging allegiance as having any relevance to patriotism. We can be proud Belgians without engaging in what amounts to cult-like rituals as I see it.

 

[Mr.Guy]

To be fair a good amount of Patriot players didn't go to the White House to see da don.

 

[Armada]

 

Word,look no further than Kaep being blackballed for speaking out against police brutality...

The negative responses to Kaep kneeling to protest against racism and police brutality (aka patriotism) is pretty disturbing to me. Same with the constant pledges of allegiance etc.
Those people would have an aneurysm in Belgium

Personally I've never had to pledge allegiance and the only time I've had to sing the national anthem is a few times in music class in elementary. Other than that I have never been required or expected to sing the anthem since then.

Hence why I literally don't know a single line of our anthem. Neither do my parents or everyone else I know.

The only time I see Belgian flags is when our national soccer team is playing a big match. Not a single flag in sight on our national holiday but if our national team is playing a big match in the FIFA Worldcup or the Euros cup there's flags on the houses everywhere

Even better, most of our national team doesn't seem to have a clue what our anthem is either. Either that or they just don't care since most of them never sing along. Doesn't bother anyone here, we'd me more surprised if our national team started singing the anthem all of a sudden

I'm certainly a proud Belgian and love my country but I don't see knowing the anthem or (repeatedly) pledging allegiance as having any relevance to patriotism. We can be proud Belgians without engaging in what amounts to cult-like rituals as I see it.

Ive said before in conversation with people that I always found it funny that our Country the United States that prides itself on freedom of speech and democracy has some very authoritarian traditions and people

 

[rolaholic]

^^Yea about half the team didn't go

Belgium I read a pretty great piece on the very idea and issue of unquestioned patriotism/loyalty to the flag, religious nationalism and militarism yesterday. It basically started with Eisenhower and has been ingrained into American culture since

I'd recommend reading it too for some background into the glorified spectacle that it's become today

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a54732/ike-100-days/

Dude was pretty much the architect of what we now know as the "religious/christian right"

 

[jape]

To be fair, contracts are way more fragile and the players' professional lives are short.

I'm all for standing up for what you believe in but I'm not blaming anyone for not messing with feeding their families

not going to the white house has nothing to do with their contracts

 

[gry60]

Word,look no further than Kaep being blackballed for speaking out against police brutality...

The negative responses to Kaep kneeling to protest against racism and police brutality (aka patriotism) is pretty disturbing to me. Same with the constant pledges of allegiance etc.
Those people would have an aneurysm in Belgium

Personally I've never had to pledge allegiance and the only time I've had to sing the national anthem is a few times in music class in elementary. Other than that I have never been required or expected to sing the anthem since then.

Hence why I literally don't know a single line of our anthem. Neither do my parents or everyone else I know.

The only time I see Belgian flags is when our national soccer team is playing a big match. Not a single flag in sight on our national holiday but if our national team is playing a big match in the FIFA Worldcup or the Euros cup there's flags on the houses everywhere

Even better, most of our national team doesn't seem to have a clue what our anthem is either. Either that or they just don't care since most of them never sing along. Doesn't bother anyone here, we'd me more surprised if our national team started singing the anthem all of a sudden

I'm certainly a proud Belgian and love my country but I don't see knowing the anthem or (repeatedly) pledging allegiance as having any relevance to patriotism. We can be proud Belgians without engaging in what amounts to cult-like rituals as I see it.

In an open world, where we can be thousands of miles from one another and realize that we share similar views, values, and concerns, it is very difficult to overplay our differences through nationalism. It is for this reason that there is such a push to regulate the channels of communication in such a way that only a few entities can determine what can be consumed by particular demographics.

 

[handullz]

Too many house boys in the NFL.

:x

Inb4 "I would've done ___"

 

[rolaholic]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.9a512224d32a

Kind of surprised it's so low

 

[gry60]

Now, this story brought a smile on my face:

At the union hall in Colstrip, Rex Rogers shares some of the same frustrations as Shaw and others.

Rogers is the business manager for the local chapter of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. He represents about 250 workers at Colstrip's power plant. And he too wants to see a plan in place to help those workers when parts of the plant start to close down.

The irony is that there was a plan: President Barack Obama's Clean Power Plan.

Rogers keeps a copy of it at the union hall. He lifts it — all 1,560 pages — from a wood side table and plops it down on a table in the middle of the room.

"I wouldn't have printed it, if I'd known how big it was going to be," he says.

The Clean Power Plan was Obama's biggest effort to combat climate change. It would have required that states like Montana reduce their carbon emissions. Rogers was on Montana's team that studied how that would play out on the ground. The expectation, he says, is that it would have forced the closure of the two older units at the town's power plant.

Put another way: "The impact on Colstrip would have been exactly what we're seeing now," he says.

Only now, the Clean Power Plan is gone. Montana was one of dozens of states that successfully sued to stop the plan. Trump has ordered that it be repealed.

"Well the concern with that is, built into the Clean Power Plan was [a section] about transitioning, taking care of the workers and those parts of it," Rogers says.

Rogers is referring to Obama's Power+ Plan, which aimed to give resources to "assist communities and workers that have been affected by job losses in coal mining, coal power plant operations, and coal-related supply chain industries due to the changing economics of America's energy sector."

It was the Obama administration's way of saying: We know the market is changing; here's our plan to help cushion the fall.

Now, Rogers says, the cushion is gone and there's nothing being proffered by the new administration to replace it.

"Even though we won the 'war on coal,' it doesn't appear that there was anything in that for the workers," he says.

So. Much. Winning.

I recommend reading the whole thing. There's a tidbit about a republican politician drafting a bill to force the utilities buying the coal from that town to pay in order to get off of it.

Unbridled capitalism ain't so great when you're on the losing side, is it?

 

[AEA18]

To be fair a good amount of Patriot players didn't go to the White House to see da don.

I stand corrected

 

[aepps20]

The Warriors will reportedly skip the White House visit.

Da LIBBIES have infiltrated Da NBA B. Hopefully a call from MY HUD SECRETARY BENJAMIN FRANKLIN CARSON will change their minds B.

 

[rolaholic]

Who would've known that the coal gang would get hung out to dry like every other group that voted for dude?

To be fair a good amount of Patriot players didn't go to the White House to see da don.

Brady
Blount
Bennett
Branch
Long
McCourty
Hightower

7 players out of 53

Those are the most high profile dudes but the list was actually a lot longer than that...

Just look at the difference in the pics from 2014 and this year

 

[whywesteppin]

full list

 

[Belgium]

^^Yea about half the team didn't go

@Colombia I read a pretty great piece on the very idea and issue of unquestioned patriotism/loyalty to the flag, religious nationalism and militarism yesterday. It basically started with Eisenhower and has been ingrained into American culture since

I'd recommend reading it too for some background into the glorified spectacle that it's become today

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a54732/ike-100-days/

Dude was pretty much the architect of what we now know as the "religious/christian right"

Appreciated, this was pretty informative and I didn't know most of that. 

 

[aepps20]

Rex Rogers ALREADY admitted that WE WON Da war on COAL B. Every war has casualties B. Da Job losses are just something Da COAL TRAIN will replenish in a few months B. Da Don promised us B and he NEVA goes back on his Promises Libbies.

 

[IATT]

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...h-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

 

[Belgium]

Rex Rogers ALREADY admitted that WE WON Da war on COAL B. Every war has casualties B. Da Job losses are just something Da COAL TRAIN will replenish in a few months B. Da Don promised us B and he NEVA goes back on his Promises Libbies.

These libbies just disgust me b 

Bet da libbies don't have one of these in their home

That's my coal heater b

Sometimes I just open the hatch so I can sniff the sweet coal fumes 

 

[hipstermike]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.9a512224d32a

Kind of surprised it's so low

This needs to be a billboard somewhere that keeps count, like how we used to have those billboards for smoking deaths 

 

[Belgium]

 
This needs to be a billboard somewhere that keeps count, like how we used to have those billboards for smoking deaths 

Maybe da Kalegang can contact (((((((((Soros)))))))))) and ask him 

 

[aepps20]

These libbies just disgust me b  :x
Bet da libbies don't have one of these in their home


That's my coal heater b
Sometimes I just open the hatch so I can sniff the sweet coal fumes 

POST OF DA YEAR B. POST OF DA YEAR. COLUMBIA out here EARNING Da Black Lung B.

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]