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-Let me clarify my statement from before. Biden is not really ashamed of the part he played in with the crime bill. He does admit that some stuff in there lead to discriminatory outcomes and he has tried to get those fixed. But he his apology falls short of even Bill Clinton's so he deserves a **** you on that issue. He has in recent years adopted most of Obama's stances on civil rights, so maybe now he is on the right side of the argument but ole boy violated heavy and should always be remembered as being on the wrong side of history.
-Btw: In 2008 Jon Edwards and maybe Richardson was the populist, Obama, Dodd and Hillary were center left liberals.
Biden was the main centrist option.
-I like the dude mainly because how much he has changed, evolved and expanded his world view over the last 8 years. I am not a big fan of pre-2008 Biden. No progressive really should be as well.
-Btw: In 2008 Jon Edwards and maybe Richardson was the populist, Obama, Dodd and Hillary were center left liberals.
Biden was the main centrist option.
-I like the dude mainly because how much he has changed, evolved and expanded his world view over the last 8 years. I am not a big fan of pre-2008 Biden. No progressive really should be as well.
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