***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[dacomeup]

Maybe with this Biden admin fav saying it, Dems might actually listen

 

[gry60]

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Biden Cancels Nearly $4.3 Billion in Public Worker Student Debt

President Joe Biden on Friday announced plans to cancel student debt for about 55,000 public sector workers, as his administration pushes to zero out balances for more people in the final weeks of his administration.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

 

[Mark Antony]

@frshstunna @wavycrocket

Some real life V for Vendetta stuff.

 

[rolaholic]

We're straight up speed running the 1920's + 30's again

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Im so tired of this dumb populism fad.
the money in politics meme is so overwrought and overstated.


if you got rid of all the "money in politics" you still have a political system with too many veto points to respond effectively to voters.

 

[elpablo21]

osh kosh bosh

 

[osh kosh bosh]

osh kosh bosh

not surprising, I agree with his analysis, its similar to my own.
you want a to give young talented politicians things to do. but i don't think it's a big deal or some left vs center thing.


AOC is a good politician, she has become a team player.
she shouldn't be treated the same as the other leftist loser freaks like cori bush or jamaal bowman.

 

[dacomeup]

Im so tired of this dumb populism fad.
the money in politics meme is so overwrought and overstated.


if you got rid of all the "money in politics" you still have a political system with too many veto points to respond effectively to voters.

Estimated that the corporate lobbying industry is $9bill. Wall Street spends billions to influence elections. Is it really overstated?

 

[Lee And His Sneaks]

 

[rolaholic]

Estimated are the corporate lobbying industry is $9bill. Wall Street spends billions to influence elections. Is it really overstated?

Banging on the 'money in politics is overstated' drum on the precipice of of the legitimate billionaire administration and cabinet is definitely an interesting choice

Wish Elon would get hip and realize how apparently little influence his dollars have...

Same for AIPAC and the other special interest dark money groups that broke records this past cycle and are reaping the rewards

 

[trappedintime]

Estimated are the corporate lobbying industry is $9bill. Wall Street spends billions to influence elections. Is it really overstated?

It’s not. Citizens United is the worst thing to ever happen to the U.S. Talking about checks and balances undermining democracy more than CU is a completely irrational and hilarious take from a non-American.

 

[daruma]

MORE

 

[biggie62]

Damn now he’s Reek to Elon and Putin?

 

[gry60]

It’s not. Citizens United is the worst thing to ever happen to the U.S. Talking about checks and balances undermining democracy more than CU is a completely irrational and hilarious take from a non-American.

The system of checks and balances was the victim of CU.

There's a reason other functioning democracies track how politicians fund their campaigns, severely limit the infusion of cash by individuals in their elections, and prosecute those who engage in creative accounting to hide the transfer of campaign money.

 

[Lee And His Sneaks]

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[rolaholic]

Nothing to see here, the oligarchy definitely isn't real...

 

[IATT]

Nothing to see here, the oligarchy definitely isn't real...

The dummies can’t say they weren’t warned


If only George soros was available for comment

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Estimated that the corporate lobbying industry is $9bill. Wall Street spends billions to influence elections. Is it really overstated?

Money has an influence, it's just more subtle and complex than the narrative populists tend to present. It makes people assume that inaction =/= corruption.

populist make it seem like there are all these good things that COULD be happening but they are simply aren't happening because of corrupt influence.
For major political and policy questions I think this basically isn't true. Lobbying influence is strongest in the policy details, or in realms the public doesn't care about like foreign policy.

the main thing holding up major policy question from being resolved is the filibuster and the geographic bias of the senate.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

The most influential lobbying groups are influential because they have voters that will vote based on their recommendations.

The NRA for example is influential not because of donations but because they have a large amount of voters that support them on the merits.


the insurance industry spends more than the AMA on lobbying, but the AMA is more iufluential because people hate middle men and love doctors.

 

[Wargames]

Scooby snacks

 

[Wargames]

Nothing to see here, the oligarchy definitely isn't real...

I keep telling ya’ll the plan is Austerity, Tarrifs, Deregulations, and Tax cuts for the wealthy and the distraction is mass deportation.

The issue is the majority of people didn’t vote for Austerity, Tariffs, Deregulations, and tax cuts for the wealthy and if the mass deportation doesn’t provide the cover they need, there will be Hell to pay.

 

[gry60]

I keep telling ya’ll the plan is Austerity, Tarrifs, Deregulations, and Tax cuts for the wealthy and the distraction is mass deportation.

Let's watch our future unfold:

Brexit cost UK £27bn in lost trade in first two years, review finds

Despite fall in trade, LSE study says overall impact was more limited than OBR forecasters first estimated

www.theguardian.com

The damage from Brexit to trade links with the EU cost the UK £27bn in the first two years, but the overall impact was more limited than forecasters first estimated, according to the most comprehensive review of the issue since Britain fully left the bloc at the start of 2021.

Researchers based at the London School of Economics found that trade barriers had been a “disaster” for small businesses and had forced thousands to stop trading with EU nations.


The academics from the Centre for Economic Performance looked at evidence from more than 100,000 firms, and found that by the end of 2022, two years after the UK signed the trade and cooperation agreement (TCA) with Brussels, total British goods exports had fallen by 6.4% and imports by 3.1%.

An assessment by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) has forecast that the UK will suffer a 15% slump in trade, leading to a 4% reduction in national income, over the longer term.

CEP researchers said that while it was possible the UK might still experience a fall of the magnitude envisaged by the OBR, the government’s independent economic forecaster, there would need to be a further deterioration in imports and exports with the UK’s largest trading partner.

The issue is the majority of people didn’t vote for Austerity, Tariffs, Deregulations, and tax cuts for the wealthy and if the mass deportation doesn’t provide the cover they need, there will be Hell to pay.

I disagree.

They had a lot of warnings from many different places, including people who would traditionally side with Republicans, about how disastrous a 2nd Trump term would be for the little man.

They simply chose to not listen to those who know better than them (economists), they chose to gamble, and they're about to find out we all lost.

 

[daruma]