***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[osh kosh bosh]

Yes, it’s an old practice. As is clowning them when they get caught.

No one was "caught".

The only clowns in this instance

Are the hyper partisan freaks indulging in a pathetic conspiracy theory that the the NY Times is out to get them...based off of URLs and prewrites.

 

[atlsfinest]

No one was "caught".

The only clowns in this instance

Are the hyper partisan freaks indulging in a pathetic conspiracy theory that the the NY Times is out to get them...based off of URLs and prewrites.

Forgive me here, I'm asking a sincere question. I don't know anything about newspapers and how they function. Why would the NYT have a pre-written headline about Vance dominating the debate a week ago?

Would they also have a headline pre-written about Walz dominating and they had to choose which one to go with depending on the results the debate? Do they have lots of pre-written headlines that they can go with quickly? that they can go with quickly?

 

[biggie62]

I mean some of the NYTimes opinion pieces are probably prewritten. They have some right wing writers in that section.

 

[IATT]

 

[05fordgt]

He has such a punchable face!

 

[moonman818]

NYTimes conspiracy theories are the best.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news writers on deadline usually prewrite stories for sporting events, debates, election results ect.

WELLLL AKKKKSHHUUUUALLLLYYYYYYY

 

[IATT]

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Forgive me here, I'm asking a sincere question. I don't know anything about newspapers and how they function. Why would the NYT have a pre-written headline about Vance dominating the debate a week ago?

Would they also have a headline pre-written about Walz dominating and they had to choose which one to go with depending on the results the debate? Do they have lots of pre-written headlines that they can go with quickly? that they can go with quickly?

Yes, for events with predictable out comes, that are time sensitive. Like x wins, y wins. X wins by land slide, y wins by close. Ect

They will pre write headlines, article leads and sometimes entire articles so they can get an article up as fast as possible and capitalize on the post event traffic. .


It's totally normal, but I guess people would rather run with the loser "NY Times is out to get us* narrative.

 

[Based Jesus]

 

[IATT]

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

They're driving wages down while driving the cost of housing up at the same time, these same dirt poor immigrants are somehow well off enough to outbid your everyday Americans for homes

They're also stealing all your jobs while at the same time being lazy and having the time to drive crime up!

Schrodingers immigrant

In the bay area it's pretty simple. Hedge funds/private equity are driving up prices and foreign (Chinese) investment.
There are blocks in sunnyvale and cupertino that have a bunch of $2-$3M houses that sit empty because they are owned by chinese investors . They just hire a property manager to keep it maintained or airbnb/rent it out.

No one is going to restrict this real estate activity because then it would be "communism". Also realtors and home owners would not approve of any regulations on hedge funds/private equity and foreign investors because it would lower prices and commissions.

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

JD Vance is an intelligent guy defending self evidently stupid insane/ideas.

Tim Walz is defending much better ideas, but isn't a good enough debator to win this cleanly.

Agreed
JD Vance went to Yale Law School so he's no scrub.
Walz needed to be a game manager and not throw an interception for Team Kamala so i think he got the job done.

 

[Fozz]

Seeing longtime friends post IG stories wondering why they are called a bigot and racist when their flying an American and Trump flag on the back of their Nissan Frontier truck is just confusing.

 

[essential1]

 

[yobyellav]

Whenever one of those idiots is on television and deliberately mispronounces the VP’s name, I’d correct them once. If they can’t say it incorrectly again, I’d end the interview. It’s like saying it incorrectly is a power trip for them. It’s grade school bullying tactics and a sign not to take that person seriously.

 

[yobyellav]

Seeing longtime friends post IG stories wondering why they are called a bigot and racist when they’re flying an American and Trump flag on the back of their Nissan Frontier truck is just confusing.

A couple American flags are starting to pop up in my neighborhood here in KC. Have seen a couple T/V signs but mostly it’s H/W. One house in another neighborhood nearby has a trump flag next to an Israel flag. Whenever I pass, I wonder if they got the Israel flag before or after trump said there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville.

 

[TooOlfForThisIsh]

Forgive me here, I'm asking a sincere question. I don't know anything about newspapers and how they function. Why would the NYT have a pre-written headline about Vance dominating the debate a week ago?

Yes, for events with predictable out comes, that are time sensitive. Like x wins, y wins. X wins by land slide, y wins by close. Ect

They will pre write headlines, article leads and sometimes entire articles so they can get an article up as fast as possible and capitalize on the post event traffic. .

One, let’s call it less controversial, use of this practice is pre-writing obits. Most news desks have death articles written for hundreds or more public figures. They usually get updated every year or so and quickly polished and published when the person actually dies.

You can see how that is a sensible practice, if not a bit ghoulish. Where to draw the line is a judgement call, but I’d say maintaining the illusion that you’re actually reacting and reporting on events as opposed to predicting them is a good spot.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

One, let’s call it less controversial, use of this practice is pre-writing obits. Most news desks have death articles written for hundreds or more public figures. They usually get updated every year or so and quickly polished and published when the person actually dies.

You can see how that is a sensible practice, if not a bit ghoulish. Where to draw the line is a judgement call, but I’d say maintaining the illusion that you’re actually reacting and reporting on events as opposed to predicting them is a good spot.

The only people who think this is "controversial" are hyper partisans who are dictrd to political news anyways.


There is zero reason to pander to them because they addicted to feeling persecuted.

 

[TooOlfForThisIsh]

The only people who think this is "controversial" are hyper partisans who are dictrd to political news anyways.


There is zero reason to pander to them because they addicted to feeling persecuted.

Who’s pandering?

I agree that only news junkies have a view on the practice of pre-writing. But I think that’s just a simple consequence of only news junkies knowing that the practice exists at all. I suspect that most people are surprised, and not particularly pleased, when they find out. And I suspect a lot of the reaction you’re seeing right now is because people are getting a glimpse at how the sausage is made.

There are plenty of reactions that are expressing distaste without stepping into conspiracy pedaling.

 

[p0tat0 5alad]

Y’all aint get it out the mud like osh kosh bosh and he can tell

 

[Public Enemy]

Why....why would you say this

 

[balldontlie206]

Titanic was the unsinkable ship and it sank.

I understand that they’re trying to instill more faith in the system by making more comments that convey the type of work they’ve done in recent years to secure the systems.

But it’s like cybersecurity/netsec 101 to expect the worst thing to happen and to never be overconfident

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Who’s pandering?

I agree that only news junkies have a view on the practice of pre-writing. But I think that’s just a simple consequence of only news junkies knowing that the practice exists at all. I suspect that most people are surprised, and not particularly pleased, when they find out. And I suspect a lot of the reaction you’re seeing right now is because people are getting a glimpse at how the sausage is made.

There are plenty of reactions that are expressing distaste without stepping into conspiracy pedaling.

I think every reaction I've seen is essentially conspiracy pedaling.

No one is having some sober minded conversation on "pre writing", (a totally uncontroversial journalistic practice)


It's all people using this to intimate the NY TImes is trying to engineer a loss for the democratic.

Either because they don't understand how this works or they are being misled by clout hungry hyper partisans desperate for social media likes.


It's essentially just Blue MAGA,
the press is the enemy of the people out to get us because whaaa whaaa boo hooo they pre wrote a headline.


Loser behaviour.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

Why....why would you say this

Someone photoshop Putin’s face on that Jordan “and I took that personally” meme.

 

[IATT]