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So what now?
She won't take over and Biden won't step down.
Can we let them get to campaigning now? Or are we going to act like 2016 babies again and write in Harambe Jr?
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So what now?
She won't take over and Biden won't step down.
Can we let them get to campaigning now? Or are we going to act like 2016 babies again and write in Harambe Jr?
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I think if you were to poll the Belgian population on how positively/negatively they view our political situation, I'd be shocked if it didn't yield close or worse results than the US.
We do have a lot of choice, but even then a huge part of our population chooses to vote blank. For the most part voting is mandatory nationwide, with the only way to escape a fine being a medical or work exemption. I've known a lot of people such as my mom who specifically switch a weekend shift with a coworker for an exemption for voting day.
So most of the population is actually there at the voting booth, and still a huge part of that mass chooses to not select any candidate/party despite the variety of options across the spectrum.
It shows that even outside of the restriction of a defacto two party system, a substantial part of voters still avoid the 'vote for the lesser evil' argument despite a much larger variety of options.
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pretty interesting tbh
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Yeah, basically. It's hard to imagine but in a country of 350 million people it really is just one man's decision. I would feel more comfortable with this if Joe knew how dire the situation was but it seems like his inner circle has kept him insulated and he isn't getting accurate information.
Not sure if this is true or not but it seems like Joe is getting data that shows he still has a path of victory and Nancy is trying to set him straight and show him that not only will he lose but he will drag the rest of the party down with him.
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do we have to fly kenny smith to Delaware, for joe to get the message?
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do we have to fly kenny smith to Delaware, for joe to get the message?
This has been my big takeaway and it's something that PSA brought up during their latest podcast. The Democrats in the safe districts like AOC and Bernie Sanders are encouraging Joe to stay in the race but the Democrats in competitive districts are the ones freaking out and telling Joe leave.
That should tell you enough about the state of the race. The people whose jobs are on the line are worried and the people who are going to be fine regardless are not worried.
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putting in work
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I'm ridin with Biden.
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When you’re safe you can leverage the candidate for your own agenda
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No Joe, no Kamala, 100 days or so before the elections.
What's the plan?
I still remember the 180° Sinema pulled off once she got elected.
It's a lot of murkiness around this thing if you ask me.
What about those who voted for him during the primaries? Do donors overrule their choice? Should they?
Is 10% of elected Democrats more important than 90%?
Do polls no longer change?
Can't Democrats do something to change them (like, I don't know, running a campaign, grabbing all the alley-hoops the Trump campaign keeps lobbing, and having Kamala presenting herself more as the capable backup she could be in case something happpens)?
Do you not think that the public infighting is also negatively impacting other Democrats who are running?
It's not just about the polls, and that has been your only justification for asking Biden to step down. The fact that y'all are so comfortable with introducing so much uncertainty in this situation boggles my mind.
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We've heard a lot of calls for civility since the assassination attempt on Donald Trump by a registered Republican, many of them one-sided.
Since then, some users have begun reporting posts criticizing Donald Trump as "hate speech," and demanding that it be suppressed by our moderation team.
For reference: criticism of a public figure is not hate speech.
If you'd like to see an actual example of hate speech for contrast, click the spoiler button below to review a message submitted to us from a former member via the site's contact form mere hours after Donald Trump blew kisses to a known racist literally platformed by the RNC.
This is hate speech.
Understand the difference.
Since then, some users have begun reporting posts criticizing Donald Trump as "hate speech," and demanding that it be suppressed by our moderation team.
For reference: criticism of a public figure is not hate speech.
If you'd like to see an actual example of hate speech for contrast, click the spoiler button below to review a message submitted to us from a former member via the site's contact form mere hours after Donald Trump blew kisses to a known racist literally platformed by the RNC.
This is hate speech.
Understand the difference.
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I don't understand why you are playing dumb. You know exactly what the plan is. Nothing can start until Joe Biden steps down.
They are escalating the pressure. And they will continue to do so until he steps down or the convention happens.
That's what's happening here, it's obvious. The democrats don't need to send out a flow chart for that to be clear.
YOU CAN'T APPEAL TO DEMOCRACY WHEN YOU LIED TO THE VOTERS ABOUT THE COGNITIVE STATE OF THE PRESIDENT.
He wouldn't have won if they didn't flagrantly lie and cover up the reality of his mental state
The primary results are a dead letter, appealing to them is ridiculous.
1. The polls typically don't shift that much. If Biden is down 4, he's actually down like 8, because a democrat is going to need a 4-5 point popular vote lead to win the presidency.
2. JOE BIDEN CAN'T CAMPAIGN. he can't capitalize on the Trump alley oops. BECAUSE HE IS IN COGNITIVE DECLINE.
They've already lost one of the few big events that can shift the polls by face planting I'm the debate. And Joe Biden isn't in a state where he can be counted on to win a second debate.
It doesn't matter because this campaign is already drawing dead.
Polls have a predictive history we can judge and test.
We either use polls, or we use vibes. I personally prefer polls.
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When NFL teams bench QBs mid season all the pundits and fans assume season is over.
How would benching Biden at this point help instill confidence in the fan base?
Dems dont have a plan B.
Fitzmagic and Gardner Minshew aint walking through the door to save us from Trump.
For the record, I would even vote for Commander (Biden's dog) if need be to keep Trump away.
How would benching Biden at this point help instill confidence in the fan base?
Dems dont have a plan B.
Fitzmagic and Gardner Minshew aint walking through the door to save us from Trump.
For the record, I would even vote for Commander (Biden's dog) if need be to keep Trump away.
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The fan base gave up on him and determined he’s been concussed too many times. Read the room
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There's nothing more important than making sure that Trump doesn't win again.
And we're wasting time bickering about BS.
And we're wasting time bickering about BS.
putting in work
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Yeah it's no use explaining to them that if they choose another candidate the Republicans will block the candidate from going on the ballot in Ohio and Michigan.
As you said the Supreme Court is not bi-partisan.
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That's exactly what some of these posters in here want too. Just want to talk about nonsense and bs to run the clock out, for whatever motives they have. It's sick.
That's why a bunch of them just skip by all the posts of substance. All the ridiculousness from the RNC, all the horrific things they've said and done and continue to do, instead posting stuff trying to be amateur neurologists.
I like what Kamala said in that video posted a day or two ago. "We can't hear what you're saying because we're too busy watching what you're doing".
That's where we need to go. Ignore the idiocy and move forward like grown folk.
Ridiculous that you've got people flagging stuff Trump is getting called out for, as hate speech. Thanks for handling it,
Methodical Management
. I appreciate how much it takes to moderate a site. It's a lot of reading, a lot of researching, and a lot of head shaking.
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dems moving off Joe? Just got this text from a random poll
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The "both sides" to fully right wing to fully racist pipeline is undefeated. Should almost just ban these types soon as they open their mouth.
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Democratic Congressional leadership needs to disinvite Netanyahu. Whether it’s Biden, Harris, or someone else running for President.
If Trump weren’t a reactionary, he could have been a great gender bending icon.
He equally loves going to broadway shows, wearing makeup, and celebrity gossip, on the one hand; and hanging out with the wrestlers, the football players, and the handsome generals.
If Trump weren’t a reactionary, he could have been a great gender bending icon.
He equally loves going to broadway shows, wearing makeup, and celebrity gossip, on the one hand; and hanging out with the wrestlers, the football players, and the handsome generals.
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