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Not at all.Are you trying to imply it is for me?
It won't happen out of thin air tho, unfortunately.I will be glad when the Palestinian people have peace, freedom from oppression, and their own state.
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Not at all.Are you trying to imply it is for me?
It won't happen out of thin air tho, unfortunately.I will be glad when the Palestinian people have peace, freedom from oppression, and their own state.
Could we ever argue that Palestinian freedom is the main objective of Hamas? They have historically used terrorist violence to try to derail PLO peace and other normalization negotiations in the 90s and early this century
Their objective is to goad an overreaction that will solidify and empower resistance to Israel. At best they massively increase recruitment and financial aid and at worst get other states involved in the hostilities
Israel's indeed a colonial regime that won't stop its atrocities on its own and maybe its people experiencing violence will show them how constantly voting for far right leaders is not a viable solution, even for them.
Status quo or thoughts and prayers ain't helping either.
2023 was already the deadliest year on record for children in the occupied West Bank. Palestinians, for 70+ years, have been treated worse than second class citizens in their own country while more Jewish people from all around the world come and claim it each year, to the deafening silence of the international community.
Israel's indeed a colonial regime that won't stop its atrocities on its own and maybe its people experiencing violence will show them how constantly voting for far right leaders is not a viable solution, even for them.
Haïti liberated themselves, Algeria too. I fear Palestine won't have a choice but doing the same, then again: “decolonization is always a violent phenomenon”.
The Palestinians should conduct more civilized warfare using these easy steps:
1.) establish a reserve currency of the world than sanction Israel. Deny Israel access to fuel and medical equipment. Sanction other countries that object to those sanctions and who try to trade with Israel.
2.) create soft power that portrays all or most Israelis a as mindless, zombie like, monolith of violence and oppression. Feign concern for the rights of Orthodox Jewish women and children who are not always able to get 12+ years of formal schooling, cite that as a totally legitimate justification for war and occupation. the Palestinians are on a mission to civilize. Also, it’s helpful to insinuate that Israel’s allies in South Asia, North America, and Europe are all from the same swamp and are all aligned in a singular goal of unleashing violence in Delhi, Toronto, and Paris. The West and its Allies have a mindless death drive.
Above all, the Palestinians must use their consent manufacturing apparatus to let the world know that everything they do is about advancing freedom and human rights.
3.) The actual fighting should mostly be done with drones. Target senior IDF leadership mostly. There will be collateral damage but if a few weddings or schools or hospitals (and emergency relief services) get triple tapped, that’s the price of advancing freedom. Maybe also assassinate leaders of countries allied with Israel as well.
4.) take out every major conventional means of resistance from Israelis.
5.) take over most Israeli territory and settle Arabs on it. This is NOT ethnic cleansing because Palestinians did bow to international pressure and graciously allow Israelis to live in isolated, pockets of land with very limited resources. Be sure to set up the Palestinian defense force (PDF) that beats up a few Israelis on important Jewish holidays
6.) endgame, after a few decades, Israelis will forcefully escape their squalid, besieged enclaves. Some of them my commit acts of violence against Arab young people at a music festival. Sit back and watch international opinion turn on what the Israelis are doing after they escaped the reservations that you put them in.
I feel like this is a lot of paragraphs to basically say "they deserve it".
If people incarcerated in the open air concentration camp known as the Gaza Strip, had drones, and the ability to fight with economic sanctions as a means to free themselves, they would have. Instead they are using what they have available and it’s not pretty but neither are drone strikes or the sight of people dying from preventable diseases due to sanctions. Somehow, those who use kidnappings and small scale rockets are terrorists but those who use drones and sanctions are given Nobel Peace Prizes.
Anybody have any good reading material on what’s going on in the Middle East for the last 80 years and up to now with really basic/simple explanations so that I can better understand it?
Anybody have any good reading material on what’s going on in the Middle East for the last 80 years and up to now with really basic/simple explanations so that I can better understand it?
rape/torture/killing civilians
is not a "means to free themselves"
it's a means to perpetuate the status quo and ensure more bloodshed.
there is no amount of terrorism that will make Israel disappear.
They are there and they are never leaving.
any end to the conflict will need the consent of Israel.
I totally understand why Palestinians support Hamas,
but I don't understand why third party people watching from miles away like you or me should support or justify the actions of Hamas.
im not conflating anything.You’re making the mistake of conflating fast violence with slow violence.
If each and every country and entity swore off violence of every sort (and truly adhered to it), then what Hamas is doing would be wrong.
If you want the Palestinians to fight fair, give them drones and sanctioning power and they’ll fight in an honorable, contemporary western manner.
This is true.The Israeli far right and Hamas are just perpetuating a feedback loop that makes sure nothing fundamentally changes, and more innocent people (especially Palestinians) keep dying
I agree with all thisThis is true.
Still, it's important to mention that the status quo is the slow and methodical conquest of what remains of Palestine; it's not a stalemate where borders are not moving.
It's also important to mention that the US unconditional support of Israel does not help. Throughout the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, I don't remember the US besieging entire areas of those countries. Israel can declare a complete siege of Gaza, and the US government being silent about it is an issue.
Finally, we definitely poured oil on the fire when we moved the US embassy to Jerusalem, killed that Iranian general, and declared the Middle East issue solved.