With the Kobe 6, if I'm not mistaken, didn't the Laker 3Ds and Splatters pop up out the blue. If I recall, by October we were thinking the 6 was pretty much done. Then the Imperial Purple joints dropped, and info about the 3Ds and Splatters surfaced, released in Nov or early December I think. Point is, hoping its the same for the 8. Only problem with how it happened with the 6 is that interest for the 6 had died by then, leading to the 3Ds and Splatters(especially) not selling well, which was a good thing for those not able to purchase right way.