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That ship has sailed, I think. Back injury, his attitude, his insistence to only sign with Brooklyn long term, etc, it's a risk enough for whoever trades for him, let alone taking back bad contracts.
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That ship has sailed, I think. Back injury, his attitude, his insistence to only sign with Brooklyn long term, etc, it's a risk enough for whoever trades for him, let alone taking back bad contracts.
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Yeah, but Dwight has ruined any sort of leverage the organization had with his "threat" to not re-sign anywhere but Brooklyn. There's no way anybody takes those terrible contracts with Dwight...maybe Golden State, maybe.
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You're comparing trading for D12 and signing OJ Mayo (completely realistic) to bringing in LBJ and MJ out of retirement? I KNOW you're shook about Deron not signing with DallasOriginally Posted by JapanAir21
And JJ, Gerald Green, and LeBron James?What about bringing MJ out of retirement.
Get ready to waste another year of Dirk's prime on 1-year contracts and soft veterans
If the Magic want to attach Hedo or JRich (who they literally just signed) to Dwight, they better start moving fast before the Nets use up their cap space. The Nets are probably the only team that could take on a big contract like that.
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George Hill and Pacers agree to 5 year deal
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The owners really wanted a hard cap and non-guaranteed deals. I believe the new CBA limited the amount of years a team could sign a player for (I want to say four years if you didn't have their bird rights)... but in the end, the owners can't be fully protected from themselves and the free agent market. If DeAndre Jordan gets paid like he does, similar players will want and get comparable money. If a team wants to make sure they get a guy like Hibbert, then they'll overpay.
The league can't draft a CBA that fully prevents the GMs and owners own stupidity.
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Right, that's what I'm thinking too. I mean, look at the Nets offer. Isn't it all those scrub players + a pick for just Dwight? No mention of Turk or J Rich. Magic are handcuffed man. They are losing their leverage by the day here.
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They sold the fans on that and don't forget the magic words "competitive balance". Truth is it was about the TV contracts certain teams had and BRI.
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Right now it looks like Stern played everybody-- players and owners. From what I know the premise was to protect the owners against themselves since they claimed to be losing money (despite record profits last year). But the owners still can't help themselves from overpaying these guys in an attempt to attract fans. It seems inevitable that many teams will be over the cap and the league is gonna tax that asss, lining Stern and them pockets.
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And the CBA is for 10 years too.
No way it lasts that long without some major complaining. Lockout 2015 coming to a theater near you!
No way it lasts that long without some major complaining. Lockout 2015 coming to a theater near you!
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Did my dude just say Mavs fans are shook about DWill not signing with us while he's watching his team panic and take on two terrible contracts to prove to Deron they're "committed to winning"...
Good luck getting anywhere near the ECF with Crash and JJ crippling your payroll for the next 4 years...
And
at easier to get out of the East... Did you watch the playoffs? It's not easier to get out of a conference that is going to be steamrolled by the Heat for the next 6 years. Nevermind the Bulls and Boston.
Good luck getting anywhere near the ECF with Crash and JJ crippling your payroll for the next 4 years...
And
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This has nothing to do with the CBA, GM's just straight doing dumb things. regardless of the punitive measures of the new CBA.
The market will correct itself soon once some of these people get fired for these contracts.
The market will correct itself soon once some of these people get fired for these contracts.
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Can you be specific about the bad contracts you are talking about? Anyways, here are some relevant differences, curated from the CBA FAQ's appendix (a-new, b-old)
a)The salary cap is based on 44.74% of BRI ($58.044 million in 2011-12) (b) The salary cap is based on 51% of BRI ($49.5 million in 2005-06)
(a)Maximum salaries are based on 42.14% of Basketball Related Income (BRI)
(b)Maximum salaries are based on 48.04% of Basketball Related Income (BRI)
(a) The luxury tax level is based on 53.51% of BRI.
(b)The luxury tax level is based on 61% of BRI.
(a) The luxury tax is progressive, with the rate increasing for every $5 million the team is above the tax line. Repeater penalty when the team is a taxpayer in three out of four years.
(b) The luxury tax is $1 for every $1 the team is above the tax line.
(a)Free agent cap holds for Larry Bird free agents not coming off rookie scale contracts are 150% or 190% of the player's previous salary.
(b)Free agent cap holds for Larry Bird free agents not coming off rookie scale contracts are 150% or 200% of the player's previous salary.
(a)Free agent cap holds for Larry Bird free agents coming off rookie scale contracts are 200% or 250% of the player's previous salary.
(b)Free agent cap holds for Larry Bird free agents coming off rookie scale contracts are 250% or 300% of the player's previous salary.
(a)Players can receive 7.5% raises in Bird or Early Bird contracts or extensions.
(b)Players can receive 10.5% raises in Bird or Early Bird contracts or extensions.
(a)Contracts for Bird and Early Bird free agents can be up to five years.
(b)Contracts for Bird and Early Bird free agents can be up to six years.
(a) All other free agent contracts can be up to four years.
(b)All other free agent contracts can be up to five years.
The progressive luxury tax will be in full effect in 2013-2014.
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Outside of Allen, Terry, Hinrich and Foye...
Nick Young has been added to the Grizz FA list. Korver also might be waived and Memphis are planning on contacting him if that happens.
Lol, that shooting performance in Game 1 got their attention.
Nick Young has been added to the Grizz FA list. Korver also might be waived and Memphis are planning on contacting him if that happens.
Lol, that shooting performance in Game 1 got their attention.
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whats going on with the Joe Johnson/Nets thing
over with, still going on, close to done?
over with, still going on, close to done?
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Waiting on Deron's decision.
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Trade is DONE. NO BROOKS, NO Gerald Green sign and trade, DRAFT PICK but it is the lottery protected Houston one. Will be finalized july 11th. Joe Johnson for Jordan Farmar, Jordan Williams, Johan Petro, and Anthony Morrow. Farmar will be bought out by the Hawks.
Wonder how the meeting with DWill went.........
Oh and they signed and traded DeShawn Stevenson as well to hawks.
Wonder how the meeting with DWill went.........
Oh and they signed and traded DeShawn Stevenson as well to hawks.
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the move makes them relevant again (if they keep Dwill), it wasnt about the $$ for the Nets.
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There is no way this trade gets done without DWill's blessing. Can we pencil DWill back to the Nets, now?
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Yup.Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Did my dude just say Mavs fans are shook about DWill not signing with us while he's watching his team panic and take on two terrible contracts to prove to Deron they're "committed to winning"...
Good luck getting anywhere near the ECF with Crash and JJ crippling your payroll for the next 4 years...
Andat easier to get out of the East... Did you watch the playoffs? It's not easier to get out of a conference that is going to be steamrolled by the Heat for the next 6 years. Nevermind the Bulls and Boston.
People just aren't used to the Nets being an aggressive big market team. If the Lakers or the Knicks made these moves, no one would care. The Lakers gave an injury prone Andrew Bynum the same contract Hibbert is getting. Pau Gasol is making damn near 20 million a year. 2 years ago KG could barely jump and last week Boston guaranteed him 34 million. Metta's getting paid more than 6 million this year. Celtics are offering Ray Allen 18 million for 3 years. You guys can say whatever you want about those guys but that is a lot of money for those players.
Big teams overpay. It happens when you're not worried about going over the cap. We have a top flight PG in the league. He's in his prime and we're moving to Brooklyn. We need to compete this year.
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Posted too soon. David Aldridge said his source says deal was made whether or not DWill comes back
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Pretty much. But doesn't this completely shut the door on Dwight to the Nets?
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They should still trade one of Gerald Green/Marshon Brooks anyway. According to my fantasy team (league champs nt jungle
) they hurt each other's game
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Now the Nets can use the Bi-Annual Mid Level Exception on Mirza Teletovic and still hold ALL their Euros stashed in Europe and Hump's bird rights.
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Looks like JJ deal is being finalized, but that does not indicate that Deron does re-sign, according to DA.
If I'm Deron, I see Marion and Crash as a wash. Then you look at Dirk and JJ.
Then you factor in whether he wants to play for less and be home, or go to a new arena and more cash.
But with the acquisition of JJ, Dwight is no longer a possibility for the Nets, while Dallas can still get it done next year.
If I'm Deron, I see Marion and Crash as a wash. Then you look at Dirk and JJ.
Then you factor in whether he wants to play for less and be home, or go to a new arena and more cash.
But with the acquisition of JJ, Dwight is no longer a possibility for the Nets, while Dallas can still get it done next year.
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