OFFICIAL LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS 2024-2025 SEASON THREAD

It's happening
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-That ridiculous 3 Hill hit
-That Pahntom foul they called on DJ which led to 2 pts
-That tech after the Phantom foul which added another point


Really cost us.

Inwas watching th game with a female and when Crawford came in to end the 3rd I told her "#11 is gonna take every shot to end this quarter" he literary took every shot to end the 3rd lmfao. And then Doc left him in there till 1 minut left in th game. It was only fitting Iso Joe scored on him.


If we lose Game 2 I'll be concerned.
Jamal Crawford is the story we've heard too many times man lol but like I said we should of gotten Luc in there for him sooner. Luc is a solid enough spot up shooter and a world's better defender. I don't understand the overvaluing of Jamal Crawford's offense when you have blake griffin and CP on the floor. He's a bench player, but we treat him as more than that and give him far too much responsibility and we suffer as a result.

I'm at a point where CP/Luc/Blake/DJ gotta play upwards of 38 min a night and you make do with JJ/Jamal/Felton, etc.
 
Doc gonna have to run my fade if Jamal gets 30 minutes again.

CP3 better come out gunning Tuesday. 4th quarter should literally be Blake/CP3 pick n rolls every time down. I don't wanna see anybody else shoot unless its a drive n kick to JJ/Luc for an open 3 or a DJ putback/lob.
 
Doc gonna have to run my fade if Jamal gets 30 minutes again.

CP3 better come out gunning Tuesday. 4th quarter should literally be Blake/CP3 pick n rolls every time down. I don't wanna see anybody else shoot unless its a drive n kick to JJ/Luc for an open 3 or a DJ putback/lob.

agreed. but jamal can get 30 min if redick plays like a sucka, like he did in game 1.

credit to ingles, he was extremely disruptive and physical all game.
 
Yea Utah played a hell of a game. I can't eem hate on them. Did exactly what they had to do to win. Snyder not calling timeout and getting iso Joe on Jamal is genius. Doc would have called a timeout and let Utah sub in their best defenders :lol
 
Yea Utah played a hell of a game. I can't eem hate on them. Did exactly what they had to do to win. Snyder not calling timeout and getting iso Joe on Jamal is genius. Doc would have called a timeout and let Utah sub in their best defenders :lol

[emoji]128175[/emoji] Our play would have ended with a contested CP fadeaway or a spinning Blake lay up attempt...
 
agreed. but jamal can get 30 min if redick plays like a sucka, like he did in game 1.

credit to ingles, he was extremely disruptive and physical all game.

Yep, JJ sucked, so Doc felt like he had to play Jamal. But here's the thing - because we have CP and Blake, he doesn't have to play either. Go small and play Felton with CP or try Anderson or Wes, who both defend better than either Jamal or JJ. But Doc has convinced himself that we need the offense that JJ and Jamal allegedly provide.

Oh, and Jamal had the highest plus/minus of anyone on the team in game 1 ... which proves why that is a very misleading stat a lot of the time...
 
Yep, JJ sucked, so Doc felt like he had to play Jamal. But here's the thing - because we have CP and Blake, he doesn't have to play either. Go small and play Felton with CP or try Anderson or Wes, who both defend better than either Jamal or JJ. But Doc has convinced himself that we need the offense that JJ and Jamal allegedly provide.

Oh, and Jamal had the highest plus/minus of anyone on the team in game 1 ... which proves why that is a very misleading stat a lot of the time...

+1 again

i wouldnt even really be mad at jamal if he shot closer to 45-48% from the field. he is a career 41% shooter and i believe 36% from 3.

this generation of NBA players could shoot much better as a whole if the leaned harder on fundamentals. its like they prefer the leaning, moving off balance shots over the fundamentally sound shots. JC is the poster boy for that IMO.


redick really really sucked. but as stated before. ingles did a really good job bothering him and whoever he was guarding while on the floor. he was a real agitator out there.
 
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Jamal has never shot over 40% from the field in a playoff run so the odds of him going to 45% from the field in the playoffs at 37 years of age is low.
Yep, JJ sucked, so Doc felt like he had to play Jamal. But here's the thing - because we have CP and Blake, he doesn't have to play either. Go small and play Felton with CP or try Anderson or Wes, who both defend better than either Jamal or JJ. But Doc has convinced himself that we need the offense that JJ and Jamal allegedly provide.

Oh, and Jamal had the highest plus/minus of anyone on the team in game 1 ... which proves why that is a very misleading stat a lot of the time...
Agreed
 
Why is Blake so bad in the 4th? And dude is just always hesitant to post up even when Joe Johnson was guarding him.

Feels like the Clips just do not have any off-ball movements either, when Black and CP are on their pick&roll, everyone else is just watching.
 
Why is Blake so bad in the 4th? And dude is just always hesitant to post up even when Joe Johnson was guarding him.

Feels like the Clips just do not have any off-ball movements either, when Black and CP are on their pick&roll, everyone else is just watching.

Eh, the commentators were doing a bitc much. He played like one minute to strt the 4th and then came back with 6 or so left. Then these idiots say "0 points in th 4th" like he didn't just sub in :lol But to answer your questions, teams start sending doubles his way in the 4th as soon as he puts th ball on the floor. Big reason why CP3 started going off
 
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CP3 went off because he was aggressive, he actually crossed his defenders a few times and got to the rim instead of settling for mid range shots. He really should have started doing this since the opening tip.

But it's still true though about Blake, even without the announcers comments, his scoring declines and I don't think it's the double teams since he doesn't post up enough for that to affect him much, he is just more willing to pass or shoot outside the paint in the fourth.

And Blake actually left with 10 min left in the 4th and got back at the 7min mark so he played 9 minutes in the 4th and proceeded to score 2 pts from free throw line for the whole quarter iirc. He had 20pts by the end of the first half.
 
- I mean CP's game 1 honestly is about as great of a performance as you can get from him. Efficient, read the game well. I thought he was aggressive from jump. Being aggressive doesnt always mean scoring, he had 11 assist in the first half while blake was rolling. When things started to open up for his own individual offense in the 2nd half, he took advantage of that. JJ and Jamal's performances aside, I wasn't all too upset at how we played in game 1. The Jazz are really good, and these games should be close. Just gotta come through in the last 6 minutes.

-Do think we were lazy at times on defense though, switching unnecessarily. I hate it, and I see soooo many teams in the NBA switching so easily. I hope this changes, don't think it will though.

- Really interested in seeing how we play tonight, and how we (and Doc) respond JJ Redick can't break free tonight. So much of what we do is predicated on him, so if we can't break him free, I wonder how Doc is going to respond to that.
 
CP3 went off because he was aggressive, he actually crossed his defenders a few times and got to the rim instead of settling for mid range shots. He really should have started doing this since the opening tip.

But it's still true though about Blake, even without the announcers comments, his scoring declines and I don't think it's the double teams since he doesn't post up enough for that to affect him much, he is just more willing to pass or shoot outside the paint in the fourth.

And Blake actually left with 10 min left in the 4th and got back at the 7min mark so he played 9 minutes in the 4th and proceeded to score 2 pts from free throw line for the whole quarter iirc. He had 20pts by the end of the first half.


He drove like 3 times when he came back in and ran into a double. I think he turned it over twice because of it. They doubled him in thr 4th after not doubling him in the first 3 quarters. I was just answering your question :lol
 
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He drove like 3 times when he came back in and ran into a double. I think he turned it over twice because of it. They doubled him in thr 4th after not doubling him in the first 3 quarters. I was just answering your question
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I agree with you btw.

Blake's 4th quarter troubles or "absences" have to do with this IMO

1) The Ball is in Chris's hands more, leaving him with less opportunities to score.

2) The floor becomes smaller in the fourth and when this happens, the DJ/Blake pairing becomes toxic, because they essentially operate in the same space come 4th quarter. So as you alluded to, you see blake getting doubled easily, teams half doubling / digging when he post up, etc. This is half the reason why his turnovers are seemingly high in the 4th and why he's ineffective w/DJ on the floor come fourth quarter.

3) He has a tendency at times to be a tight ***
 
Where y'all watching the game? I'm gonna stay at the crib cuz Idk what I would do at a bar if they go down 0-2. Thought about going to the game but I'll save that for Games 5/7 if we get there.
 
CP3 went off because he was aggressive, he actually crossed his defenders a few times and got to the rim instead of settling for mid range shots. He really should have started doing this since the opening tip.

But it's still true though about Blake, even without the announcers comments, his scoring declines and I don't think it's the double teams since he doesn't post up enough for that to affect him much, he is just more willing to pass or shoot outside the paint in the fourth.

And Blake actually left with 10 min left in the 4th and got back at the 7min mark so he played 9 minutes in the 4th and proceeded to score 2 pts from free throw line for the whole quarter iirc. He had 20pts by the end of the first half.


He drove like 3 times when he came back in and ran into a double. I think he turned it over twice because of it. They doubled him in thr 4th after not doubling him in the first 3 quarters. I was just answering your question :lol


nah, saw that game again and one post up he did and Johnson simply pulled the chair behind him

he didn't drive til like 2-3 min after he's been in the game and that one was a turn over and that was his only drive to the basket in the quarter iirc

it's true CP handled the ball more in the 4th and tried to score so he had little chance to score but he just needed to do more

and I just glanced over the 4th again and they didn't mention his zero points in the fourth til there was .50 seconds left in the game, I think you were exaggerating saying the commentators said it right when he got in :lol


and I give yall that CP3 was aggressive in creating shots for his teammates in the first getting 11 ast and then taking over the points in the second half but I think that just says more that he needs more help because he also finished the game with 11ast
 
I agree with you btw.

Blake's 4th quarter troubles or "absences" have to do with this IMO

1) The Ball is in Chris's hands more, leaving him with less opportunities to score.

2) The floor becomes smaller in the fourth and when this happens, the DJ/Blake pairing becomes toxic, because they essentially operate in the same space come 4th quarter. So as you alluded to, you see blake getting doubled easily, teams half doubling / digging when he post up, etc. This is half the reason why his turnovers are seemingly high in the 4th and why he's ineffective w/DJ on the floor come fourth quarter.

3) He has a tendency at times to be a tight ***

Agree with all this. But also, as I've harped on at times this season, he is not consistently put in the best positions to succeed. Putting him on the block is a recipe for failure - don't care if he has a 6ft, 150 lb guard on him. He's way too easy to double down there. He's much better attacking from the elbows or wings.

To be fair to Blake, he had some pretty solid 4th quarter performances toward the end of the regular season. Knocked down jumpers to keep games out of reach, etc. Proving my potential my point that he gets the best results in those situations when he doesn't post-up.
 
Maybe if there were more player movements instead of 3 clippers watching around for majority of the 24 sec clock, it would be more difficult to double Blake?

Everyone says he is a good passer for his position, why not put that to the test?

You can clearly see the difference on how Utah players are all moving around on offense in comparison to Clips' p&r heavy offense where most are staring waiting to see what happens.
 
Maybe if there were more player movements instead of 3 clippers watching around for majority of the 24 sec clock, it would be more difficult to double Blake?

Everyone says he is a good passer for his position, why not put that to the test?

You can clearly see the difference on how Utah players are all moving around on offense in comparison to Clips' p&r heavy offense where most are staring waiting to see what happens.
Tbh it's the total opposite I think.

The Clippers have exceptional off ball movement centered around JJ Redick. Just watch the very first play of the game for the Clippers tonight. It's going to be loaded with misdirection, pindowns, etc.

I personally think there's tooooo much of that in the offense honestly, especially against a team like Utah. It's why the best we looked against them in Game 1 was when we simplified it and went straight PnR / horns with CP and Blake / DJ.
 
Reddick is the only one moving, once he goes to the bench, everything else is stagnant outside of CP3/Blake passing the ball to each other or Jamal doing his and1 mixtape.
 
Eyes are glued to the Redick line.

If JJ has a really good night we'll win going away

If he doesn't, it's gonna be another dog fight IMO

In wins this season he's at 16 a game and at 47% on 3's at 6 attempts per

In losses he's under 13 a game and at under 37% from 3

Cannot overstate how important he is to lac's success this season.
 
Ingles really got to him in game 1 (I think he blocked Reddicks first shot?), I saw a few elbows flying from Reddick too which I almost never see from him.
 
Reddick is the only one moving, once he goes to the bench, everything else is stagnant outside of CP3/Blake passing the ball to each other or Jamal doing his and1 mixtape.

Pretty much. And it seems like the later and closer the game gets, the more stagnant and ISO-heavy the offense gets. It's a problem and for sure contributed to how bad we were in closely contested games during the regular season.
 
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