OFFICIAL 2024-2025 COLLEGE FOOTBALL SEASON THREAD *LYIN' SZN IS HERE*

[rolaholic]

1-7 against top 5 opposition and they're supposed to reel off 3 in a row come January?

 

[witnesskb24]

1-7 against top 5 opposition and they're supposed to reel off 3 in a row come January?

But he beats all the Purdue’s and teams like that whereas Urban would lose to them occasionally!

The people who defend him are so damn pathetic. I don’t want him fired but good lord it’s the same thing every year

 

[nako xl]

You being forced to pull for Rising should be end up at USC would be the full circle moment this thread deserves

Why would I be rooting for Rising? You see a rumor he’s heading to Da U?

 

[Dark Brandon]

But he beats all the Purdue’s and teams like that whereas Urban would lose to them occasionally!

The people who defend him are so damn pathetic. I don’t want him fired but good lord it’s the same thing every year

It’d be interesting to see what Tressel’s record would be if he had to deal with the transfer portal and NIL deals.

 

[pmatic]

Time to move on for both sides.

 

[Dark Brandon]

Matthew Sluka on line one…

 

[witnesskb24]

It’d be interesting to see what Tressel’s record would be if he had to deal with the transfer portal and NIL deals.

Man I feel like it wouldn’t be good unless he completely changed his approach to coaching. Schematically, he ran a very basic pro style offense heavily focused on the run. I think that’s going to eliminate the chance at a lot of these big name receivers and other athletes. I don’t think these older coaches do well with all the NIL stuff

I hate to say it but I think that whole tattoo gate situation was the best thing to happen to OSU.

Yall will never know the pain of watching a freak athlete like Terrelle Pryor run that 1950s basic offense

 

[bigmike23]

It’d be interesting to see what Tressel’s record would be if he had to deal with the transfer portal and NIL deals.

he was cheating before all that came into play he just couldn’t coach

 

[Dark Brandon]

Man I feel like it wouldn’t be good unless he completely changed his approach to coaching. Schematically, he ran a very basic pro style offense heavily focused on the run. I think that’s going to eliminate the chance at a lot of these big name receivers and other athletes. I don’t think these older coaches do well with all the NIL stuff

I hate to say it but I think that whole tattoo gate situation was the best thing to happen to OSU.

Yall will never know the pain of watching a freak athlete like Terrelle Pryor run that 1950s basic offense

Saban saw the writing on the wall and got out in time. 8-4 and 9-3 seasons are utter failures for his stature.

he was cheating before all that came into play he just couldn’t coach

Exactly what I was eluding to. TP and NIL have leveled the playing field and previously cheating coaches would get exposed for being basic.

 

[nako xl]

Saban saw the writing on the wall and got out in time. 8-4 and 9-3 seasons are utter failures for his stature.

Exactly what I was eluding to. TP and NIL have leveled the playing field and previously cheating coaches would get exposed for being basic.

I don’t think it’s leveled the playing field at all. I think it’s just reshuffled the deck on who the super powers are going to be. Tradition and history don’t matter as much. But the bad teams without money are still gonna be the bad teams without money. And the previously top teams who decide to overspend will still be good, just with a handful of new entries at the top like Oregon.

 

[Bobby Layne]

Tress was cheating at Youngstown St, the vest and glasses were nothing more than PR.

Tress would have been fine with NIL and the portal, and think past coaches who were good at “recruiting” would have adjusted. Like witnesskb24 said it’s schematically where I have my questions.

Saban never gets enough credit honestly for adjusting to the game. There was a time in the mid 2010s where I felt like the game was passing him by, but he saw where the game was headed and adjusted accordingly personnel and scheme wise. I don’t think that would have happened with Tress.

 

[Dark Brandon]

I don’t think it’s leveled the playing field at all. I think it’s just reshuffled the deck on who the super powers are going to be. Tradition and history don’t matter as much. But the bad teams without money are still gonna be the bad teams without money. And the previously top teams who decide to overspend will still be good, just with a handful of new entries at the top like Oregon.

It hasn’t caused the major ripple yet but the pendulum is swinging the other way for the non-storied programs. Maryland, Cal, ASU, SMU, Kentucky, and Indiana all had Top 25 transfer portal classes in 2023. Cal and Kentucky had Top 25 transfer classes again in 2024, as did UCF. All of those programs are doing well for themselves this year. If they keep this up there’s going to be major parity in the next 3-4 years.

 

[nako xl]

It hasn’t caused the major ripple yet but the pendulum is swinging the other way for the non-storied programs. Maryland, Cal, ASU, SMU, Kentucky, and Indiana all had Top 25 transfer portal classes in 2023. Cal and Kentucky had Top 25 transfer classes again in 2024, as did UCF. All of those programs are doing well for themselves this year. If they keep this up there’s going to be major parity in the next 3-4 years.

Cal is broke and getting financial support from ucla. Google “Calimony.”

Some schools like SMU can and are willing to play the game. They helped invent the game after all. That is the Oregon new money example I gave. Other schools that you listed like Cal will eventually fall further behind because they don’t have the infrastructure or desire to keep up.

 

[finessence]

I don’t think it’s leveled the playing field at all. I think it’s just reshuffled the deck on who the super powers are going to be. Tradition and history don’t matter as much. But the bad teams without money are still gonna be the bad teams without money. And the previously top teams who decide to overspend will still be good, just with a handful of new entries at the top like Oregon.

And the 4* and 5* players who just aren’t good, will be exposed earlier, transfer out and just fizzle away.

The late bloomers and lower stars (like Jared Verse) will move up and compete at bigger programs

 

[nako xl]

And the 4* and 5* players who just aren’t good, will be exposed earlier, transfer out and just fizzle away.

The late bloomers and lower stars (like Jared Verse) will move up and compete at bigger programs

Yup. Not just the G5 but even pac 12 and Big 12 had already become a feeder system before the latest round of realignment.

 

[Dark Brandon]

It hasn’t caused the major ripple yet but the pendulum is swinging the other way for the non-storied programs. Maryland, Cal, ASU, SMU, Kentucky, and Indiana all had Top 25 transfer portal classes in 2023. Cal and Kentucky had Top 25 transfer classes again in 2024, as did UCF. All of those programs are doing well for themselves this year. If they keep this up there’s going to be major parity in the next 3-4 years.

The desire for Cal to be a top football program remains to be seen, that much I’ll give you. But the notion that they’re broke is misleading. If Cal is broke then so is UCLA (neither is). The board of regents made the decision to siphon UCLA’s B1G media deal as a punishment for them jumping ship. Cal is getting $30M per year for the next 3 years and that could increase once the 3 years is up. That’s on top of the $25M they’re already getting from the ACC, that will also go up when the media rights is over. The UC Board of Regents also has one of the 10 biggest endowments of all colleges and universities in the country. Yes, Cal invested $445M to upgrade Memorial Stadium and will be paying that back through 2112 (not a typo). But their endowment is almost $18B, they’re not too worried about a shortfall.

 

[finessence]

Yup. Not just the G5 but even pac 12 and Big 12 had already become a feeder system before the latest round of realignment.

No time for development like in the past either. You better be good off the rip or, you’re immediately being replaced by a transfer. Especially if that transfer was already on the radar, but the scholarship went to someone else who hasn’t performed

 

[nako xl]

The desire for Cal to be a top football program remains to be seen, that much I’ll give you. But the notion that they’re broke is misleading. If Cal is broke then so is UCLA (neither is). The board of regents made the decision to siphon UCLA’s B1G media deal as a punishment for them jumping ship. Cal is getting $30M per year for the next 3 years and that could increase once the 3 years is up. That’s on top of the $25M they’re already getting from the ACC, that will also go up when the media rights is over. The UC Board of Regents also has one of the 10 biggest endowments of all colleges and universities in the country. Yes, Cal invested $445M to upgrade Memorial Stadium and will be paying that back through 2112 (not a typo). But their endowment is almost $18B, they’re not too worried about a shortfall.

Bro cal is broke and their trustees debated shutting down the football program like 3 years ago. Partly because of financial troubles they’re still digging their way out of, but also because the school and its trustees don’t like what big time college football entails.

UCLA’s athletics department has been in a severe financial deficit for years and that contributed to their decision to jump to the B1G. There’s aren’t hypotheticals. They actually happened.

 

[dacomeup]

It hasn’t caused the major ripple yet but the pendulum is swinging the other way for the non-storied programs. Maryland, Cal, ASU, SMU, Kentucky, and Indiana all had Top 25 transfer portal classes in 2023. Cal and Kentucky had Top 25 transfer classes again in 2024, as did UCF. All of those programs are doing well for themselves this year. If they keep this up there’s going to be major parity in the next 3-4 years

Yea, but how many of those are one year transfers? They’re also just far less likely to land premiere talents. I think there will be opportunities for non-storied programs to punch up occasionally, but you also have to align your best portal results with having some of your longer term HS kids panning out. A lot of the portal kids are transferring down levels as well, so one year a Bama cast off may look good while the next year you get a bag of rocks.

 

[Bantz Lord T]

Some schools like SMU can and are willing to play the game. They helped invent the game after all. That is the Oregon new money example I gave..

This is the major difference. Upward mobility in the college football world is easier now because of legalized investment.

 

[Bantz Lord T]

Yea, but how many of those are one year transfers? They’re also just far less likely to land premiere talents. I think there will be opportunities for non-storied programs to punch up occasionally, but you also have to align your best portal results with having some of your longer term HS kids panning out. A lot of the portal kids are transferring down levels as well, so one year a Bama cast off may look good while the next year you get a bag of rocks.

Elite teams are still built through high school recruiting, not the portal. The portal is a useful tool to fill holes, but overreliance on the portal is why FSU is 1-5 right now. Everyone laughed at Dabo Swinney, but Clemson has been blowing its opponents out on a weekly basis since losing to Georgia...

Saban always says "there's a reason the kid entered the portal in the first place" and for the most part, he's absolutely right.

 

[Dark Brandon]

Bro cal is broke and their trustees debated shutting down the football program like 3 years ago. Partly because of financial troubles they’re still digging their way out of, but also because the school and its trustees don’t like what big time college football entails.

UCLA’s athletics department has been in a severe financial deficit for years and that contributed to their decision to jump to the B1G. There’s aren’t hypotheticals. They actually happened.

Yet they made the decision to keep the program going. If you’re broke and your program is losing dozens to hundreds of millions year after year the smart business decision is to effectively shut it down. So, why keep it running? Two reasons: 1.) You can afford to, and 2.) You see value in it.

They’re not broke. Research the endowment of every university.

Yea, but how many of those are one year transfers? They’re also just far less likely to land premiere talents. I think there will be opportunities for non-storied programs to punch up occasionally, but you also have to align your best portal results with having some of your longer term HS kids panning out. A lot of the portal kids are transferring down levels as well, so one year a Bama cast off may look good while the next year you get a bag of rocks.

Maybe, maybe not. A lot of programs just don’t fit the system of the programs they enroll in, or a new coaching staff is hired, or maybe they don’t pan out like you said. I’ll still roll the dice on the transfer portal.

 

[dacomeup]

Maybe, maybe not. A lot of programs just don’t fit the system of the programs they enroll in, or a new coaching staff is hired, or maybe they don’t pan out like you said. I’ll still roll the dice on the transfer portal.

And then having sustained success will be much harder. It’s just a fact. But for some programs maybe that’s worth it

 

[rolaholic]

 

[nako xl]

Saban always says "there's a reason the kid entered the portal in the first place" and for the most part, he's absolutely right.

*Cough* Domani Jackson *Cough*