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Damn PAC 12 getting embarrassed in football and basketball 
OFFICIAL 2018 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFSEASON THREAD
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Out of all the QBs coming out, Mayfield has won by far the most.
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Joe McKnight's murderer sentenced to 30 years. Prob gonna get parole after half of that.
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So I guess he doesn't want to be recruited by anyone then 
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Random thought, but Bobby P and Lamar could have legitimately put up 100 when they played FSU in '16
I understand he didn't want to risk Lamar but man
I understand he didn't want to risk Lamar but man
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all this for a guy that is damn near a USC lock. he wants all that attention when everyone knows where he is going
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Random thought, but Bobby P and Lamar could have legitimately put up 100 when they played FSU in '16
I understand he didn't want to risk Lamar but man
I don't think I'd ever seen FSU get waxed that badly before, that final score was a head scratcher
Speaking of that, what's the worst you guys have ever seen your squad get beaten by? I remember 41-14 by Florida, 35-3 by USC, and whatever Iowa final score was
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I don't think I'd ever seen FSU get waxed that badly before, that final score was a head scratcher
Speaking of that, what's the worst you guys have ever seen your squad get beaten by? I remember 41-14 by Florida, 35-3 by USC, and whatever Iowa final score was
USC 35-3? Like in LA? I don't think USC has ever beaten FSU. You'll have to forgive me, I only call one school USC and it ain't South Carolina lol. Probably 75% of the people in here probably weren't even born the last time South Carolina beat FSU, too, if I recall correctly. We're talking Deion Sanders area, or just before.
Or you talking your team? I see Iowa on there, so ...
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77-0 against Oklahoma in 2003 or 59-0 against Bama in 2014. Both could have definitely been a lot uglier
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that 35-3 game was glorious. I remember just staring at Taylor Mays and Cushing pre-game and knew we were going to stomp the buckeyes (Losing Beanie Wells didnt help them). "strength and conditioning" program was at an all time high at that point.
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My b I was talking about Ohio States losses
lol no worries. Started scratching my head because I saw no tOSU reference, but I couldn't recall a time we played Iowa
. Plus I saw UF first in line and you know we hate them haha
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48-0 loss to Virginia in the final game of the OB
I was pretty numb and zero feelings for UM and Randy Shannon especially.
I was just more sad about the OB
I was pretty numb and zero feelings for UM and Randy Shannon especially.
I was just more sad about the OB
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good article
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I don't see Larry Scott lasting much longer
Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott Needs To Be Fired Immediately
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By: Ryan Phillips | March 16, 2018 9:28 am ET
The Pac-12 just had the worst performance by a major conference at the NCAA Tournament in more than 20 years. Given the conference’s litany of ongoing problems, that kind of showing at the biggest event in college athletics was even more disastrous. There’s only one man to blame for the Pac-12’s shortcomings, conference commissioner Larry Scott.
All three of the Pac-12’s entrants into the 2018 NCAA Tournamenthave been sent home before the round of 32. That hasn’t happened to any major conference since the formation of the Big 12 in 1996.
Despite big preseason hype for USC and Washington, the Pac-12 didn’t have a team in the College Football Playoff. Factor in the disaster that is the Pac-12 Network and you’ve got a recipe for failure.
During the football season, Scott has pushed Friday night games as a way to increase revenue. There’s just one problem: no one is going to watch football on Friday nights, especially when games kick off at 10:30 p.m. ET. The atmosphere for some of those games has been terrible as well because of the late starts. Getting students to games is one thing, but what family is taking kids to a 7:30 p.m. kickoff for a game that’s going to last four hours?
Thanks to Scott’s ridiculous scheduling ideas, Washington State, USC, UCLA, Washington and Cal all had to travel on short weeks to play Friday night games. All of them lost those games. Oh, and Stanford had to travel to Oregon State on a short week to play on a Thursday night and barely survived 15-14 because the Beavers handed the game to the Cardinal.
Among those Friday night games, both Washington State and USC had to play on the road, then travel to play a Friday night game the next week. It was an absolutely moronic — and patently unfair — situation for the kids. If that wasn’t enough, USC was forced to play the entire regular season without a bye. Yep, 12 straight weeks of football for college kids. Pretty clear the conference cares a whole lot about player safety, huh?
In the end, the Pac-12 didn’t have a team finish the football season ranked in the top 10 and went 1-8 in bowl games, the worst performance ever for a Power-5 conference.
Scott has since said they will work on fixing the scheduling issues, but he’s opposed to ending the Pac-12’s nine-game conference schedule. Again, that’s ridiculous. A nine-game conference schedule made sense when the league only had 10 teams and everyone played each other. Now there are 12 teams and there’s a conference championship game, so there’s absolutely no reason to play nine league games. I swear, if the Pac-12 wasn’t shooting itself in the foot it would be firing blanks.
Then there’s the absurdity that is the Pac-12 Network. The broadcasts are largely terrible and aren’t even available on DirecTV. That’s right, a supposedly “major” conference network that has been on the air for nearly six years still isn’t available on DirecTV. And Scott says there is no movement to rectify that situation.
The result of the major missteps with the Pac-12 Network is awful payouts to the conference members. While Big Ten and SEC teams are hauling in around $8 million a year from their TV deal, the Pac-12 dished out a paltry $2.5 million to its members in 2017. When the network launched, the schools were expecting between $5 million and $6 million per year. Now that looks like a pipe dream.
Meanwhile, in overall revenue distribution, the conference Scott oversees lags far behind. The Big Ten paid out nearly $35 million per school in 2016 and the SEC dished out $40.5 million per member. The Pac-12 sent out $28.7 million, a number far below expectations. In 2017, the SEC paid out $40.9 million per school, while the Pac-12 is expected to sit right near $29 million.
Oh, and if that wasn’t enough, Scott is the highest-paid conference commissioner, taking home more than $4 million a year. He’s making more yearly than the universities he oversees make off the conference’s television deal. If that doesn’t adequately point out the flaws in his leadership I don’t know what will.
So what does all of this have to do with the conference’s failures in the 2018 NCAA Tournament? It’s really quite simple. More money means more resources, whether it’s used on facilities, recruiting budgets or better on-campus resources for players. Oh, and it means bigger, more competitive salaries to entice top-level coaches.
Better TV scheduling means more exposure. Playing football games earlier on Saturdays means maybe voters on the East Coast would actually be awake to watch. Setting up your conference basketball tournament so games end at a decent hour could mean an extra team gets a boost come Selection Sunday. Oh, and maybe put those games on a TV network people can actually see, instead of on a channel people with DirecTV are blocked from accessing.
Scott is simply clueless when it comes to working the system and putting his member schools in the best position to succeed. The Pac-12 has won by far the most national championships of any conference. But when it comes to the big money sports, the league has fallen behind.
Since Scott took over as commissioner in 2009, the conference has not won a national title in football or basketball. And only two teams have even reached a national title game in either sport (Oregon football in 2010 and 2015). Scott has to own that failure. The former Harvard tennis player simply doesn’t understand how to elevate football and basketball in the conference he oversees.
It’s time for the Pac-12 to move on and find better leadership. The conference has regressed with Scott at the helm.
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I don't see Larry Scott lasting much longerPac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott Needs To Be Fired Immediately
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By: Ryan Phillips | March 16, 2018 9:28 am ET
The Pac-12 just had the worst performance by a major conference at the NCAA Tournament in more than 20 years. Given the conference’s litany of ongoing problems, that kind of showing at the biggest event in college athletics was even more disastrous. There’s only one man to blame for the Pac-12’s shortcomings, conference commissioner Larry Scott.
All three of the Pac-12’s entrants into the 2018 NCAA Tournamenthave been sent home before the round of 32. That hasn’t happened to any major conference since the formation of the Big 12 in 1996.
Despite big preseason hype for USC and Washington, the Pac-12 didn’t have a team in the College Football Playoff. Factor in the disaster that is the Pac-12 Network and you’ve got a recipe for failure.
During the football season, Scott has pushed Friday night games as a way to increase revenue. There’s just one problem: no one is going to watch football on Friday nights, especially when games kick off at 10:30 p.m. ET. The atmosphere for some of those games has been terrible as well because of the late starts. Getting students to games is one thing, but what family is taking kids to a 7:30 p.m. kickoff for a game that’s going to last four hours?
Thanks to Scott’s ridiculous scheduling ideas, Washington State, USC, UCLA, Washington and Cal all had to travel on short weeks to play Friday night games. All of them lost those games. Oh, and Stanford had to travel to Oregon State on a short week to play on a Thursday night and barely survived 15-14 because the Beavers handed the game to the Cardinal.
Among those Friday night games, both Washington State and USC had to play on the road, then travel to play a Friday night game the next week. It was an absolutely moronic — and patently unfair — situation for the kids. If that wasn’t enough, USC was forced to play the entire regular season without a bye. Yep, 12 straight weeks of football for college kids. Pretty clear the conference cares a whole lot about player safety, huh?
In the end, the Pac-12 didn’t have a team finish the football season ranked in the top 10 and went 1-8 in bowl games, the worst performance ever for a Power-5 conference.
Scott has since said they will work on fixing the scheduling issues, but he’s opposed to ending the Pac-12’s nine-game conference schedule. Again, that’s ridiculous. A nine-game conference schedule made sense when the league only had 10 teams and everyone played each other. Now there are 12 teams and there’s a conference championship game, so there’s absolutely no reason to play nine league games. I swear, if the Pac-12 wasn’t shooting itself in the foot it would be firing blanks.
Then there’s the absurdity that is the Pac-12 Network. The broadcasts are largely terrible and aren’t even available on DirecTV. That’s right, a supposedly “major” conference network that has been on the air for nearly six years still isn’t available on DirecTV. And Scott says there is no movement to rectify that situation.
The result of the major missteps with the Pac-12 Network is awful payouts to the conference members. While Big Ten and SEC teams are hauling in around $8 million a year from their TV deal, the Pac-12 dished out a paltry $2.5 million to its members in 2017. When the network launched, the schools were expecting between $5 million and $6 million per year. Now that looks like a pipe dream.
Meanwhile, in overall revenue distribution, the conference Scott oversees lags far behind. The Big Ten paid out nearly $35 million per school in 2016 and the SEC dished out $40.5 million per member. The Pac-12 sent out $28.7 million, a number far below expectations. In 2017, the SEC paid out $40.9 million per school, while the Pac-12 is expected to sit right near $29 million.
Oh, and if that wasn’t enough, Scott is the highest-paid conference commissioner, taking home more than $4 million a year. He’s making more yearly than the universities he oversees make off the conference’s television deal. If that doesn’t adequately point out the flaws in his leadership I don’t know what will.
So what does all of this have to do with the conference’s failures in the 2018 NCAA Tournament? It’s really quite simple. More money means more resources, whether it’s used on facilities, recruiting budgets or better on-campus resources for players. Oh, and it means bigger, more competitive salaries to entice top-level coaches.
Better TV scheduling means more exposure. Playing football games earlier on Saturdays means maybe voters on the East Coast would actually be awake to watch. Setting up your conference basketball tournament so games end at a decent hour could mean an extra team gets a boost come Selection Sunday. Oh, and maybe put those games on a TV network people can actually see, instead of on a channel people with DirecTV are blocked from accessing.
Scott is simply clueless when it comes to working the system and putting his member schools in the best position to succeed. The Pac-12 has won by far the most national championships of any conference. But when it comes to the big money sports, the league has fallen behind.
Since Scott took over as commissioner in 2009, the conference has not won a national title in football or basketball. And only two teams have even reached a national title game in either sport (Oregon football in 2010 and 2015). Scott has to own that failure. The former Harvard tennis player simply doesn’t understand how to elevate football and basketball in the conference he oversees.
It’s time for the Pac-12 to move on and find better leadership. The conference has regressed with Scott at the helm.
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Wow @ Gibson
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Couldn’t stay out of trouble at MGCC either. Got kicked off the team before being let back on later in the season at WR.
Most FBS schools probably thought he wasn’t worth the trouble and dude probably decided to just turn pro instead of going the FCS or D2 route
Most FBS schools probably thought he wasn’t worth the trouble and dude probably decided to just turn pro instead of going the FCS or D2 route
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Random thought, but Bobby P and Lamar could have legitimately put up 100 when they played FSU in '16
I understand he didn't want to risk Lamar but man
I don't think I'd ever seen FSU get waxed that badly before, that final score was a head scratcher
Speaking of that, what's the worst you guys have ever seen your squad get beaten by? I remember 41-14 by Florida, 35-3 by USC, and whatever Iowa final score was
1996 Sugar bowl, was 9 and definitely that irrational kid who had every part of my existence invested in my teams. Definitely shed tears.
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I know you’re referring to the ‘96 season, but the funny thing is, there was never technically a ‘96 Sugar Bowl per se. The ‘95 season was played in Dec of ‘95 and the ‘96 season was played in in Jan ‘97.
Anyway to my point, the reason I bring that up is, I remember being in boot camp and of course we didn’t know squat since we were shielded from the outside world. Of course there were no cellphones as we know them today. So ... the only time we had any connection to the world was through TV, radio, letters and newspaper. The first 2 weren’t happening considering my circumstances. That said, I’m not religious, but I decided to volunteer to clean the church because it was on the few times we they weren’t in our a**. So there I was, cleaning the church and I saw the sports section!! Front page UF got their a**es beat by Nebraska lol. I was in shock when I saw the way Lawrence Phillips and the rest of the knucklehead steamrolled the Gaytors lol.
Big ups to Tommy Frasier, the man who preceded Willie Taggart and Scott Frost on the bench lol
Sliding on my Al Bundy jersey, but late mid 80s to late ‘90s football was something else, man. Those were the days
Oh, and F U Miami from Uncle Bobby and the FG kickers
