Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

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i think the thunder should sign stephen jackson.. we need another guard/forward, for just in case purposes

he did make a song or mix tape or something with KD..

right now we're looking at:

westbrook/jackson

thabo/lamb/liggins

KD/pj3             (our rookie roberson)

ibaka/collison (our rookie jerrett)

perkins/thabeet/orton (i assume adams will spend 90% of the season in the Dleague)
 
So basically Dwight wanted 409 impossible things to happen in order for us to have him stay a Laker...

:{ :lol

What else did Dwight want? Kobe to retire mid-season to allow Dwight to lead the team into the playoffs solo? Lakers to trade Pau for LeBron? Hire Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan, AND Jeff Van Gundy as 3 Laker co-head coaches? And then mayyyyybe he would of resigned? :rollin
 
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awwsome said:
And loses 4-1 in the first round

Being a bottomfeeder playoff team is the worst position as a franchise, idk why teams strive for that.
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Completely untrue and I keep seeing this garbage in the media.

Was Houston in a terrible spot when they made the playoffs and had no chance against OKC this year? What about the Grizzlies when they upset the Spurs? What about when the Bulls lost in 7 to the Celtics? Or OKC when they lost to the Lakers?

Sure, SOME 8th seed teams have no room for growth and that's a terrible spot to be. Detroit does not apply. Even with Smith, Monroe and Drummond (ESPECIALLY) have lots of room to grow and get better.

You could've easily had the same criticisms about the Pacers. Signing David West, relying on Granger as their best player - they had a limited ceiling - but George and Hibbert grew into all stars and the chemistry clicked.

Why does every team have to be hardcore tanking or be at Miami Heat status? There are other ways to grow. I'm sure Detroit will appreciate having a team that isn't horrible for the first time in years.
 
Why did Dwight complain about passing the torch?

If he wanted the torch then he was going to have to take it. Yes, he was hurt, but it wasn't as if his game had taken steps forward, even if the offense wasn't running through the post until the end of the year.

I think he could've gotten more touches, but he was still challenged offensively when given opportunity.
 
[quote name="nflowshoe"]So according to a ESPN story, Dwight just wanted the Lakers to consider redoing Kobe’s contract because he was old and injured and wanted them to use the money for more players. Get rid of Nash and Gasol and go after his friend Chris Paul. Paul told Howard he would sign with the Lakers if they had cap space. The Lakers told him No, then Kobe release statements saying he will play 3 more years and he won’t take a pay cut.... Sounds like the Lakers didn’t want Howard there as much as he didn’t want to be there.[/quote]- restructure Kobe's deal, because he's old & injured
- out w/ Nash & Pau
- in w/ CP3... who said he would sign if we had cap space

On the SURFACE, sounds like a good plan moving forward. The biggest problem I have with this plan is the person at the center of it all: Dwight Howard.

He's a crybaby mental ******, and I have no doubt that the tumultuous drama that was experienced in Orlando and with the Lakers will also be experienced in Houston.

Good plan, though. Wish we could have done it.
 
Mister Friendly said:
Because its better than being a lottery team, there's only so many superstars coming out.
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Unlike this year there are actually a number of potential superstars expected to enter next year's draft. At a certain point though you need to end a franchise's losing culture or at least get out of the cellar (see Bobcats). 
 
OKC grew through being a lottery team, great example.

Houston got lucky with Dwight this summer or they would be in the same position. Memphis was already a good team. Pacers again through the draft with George.

It's good for the fans but signing Josh Smith for damn near 60 Mill when your going to have to resign Monroe to a max next year and Drummond in 2.
 
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DarthSka said:
[quote name="nflowshoe"]So according to a ESPN story, Dwight just wanted the Lakers to consider redoing Kobe’s contract because he was old and injured and wanted them to use the money for more players. Get rid of Nash and Gasol and go after his friend Chris Paul. Paul told Howard he would sign with the Lakers if they had cap space. The Lakers told him No, then Kobe release statements saying he will play 3 more years and he won’t take a pay cut.... Sounds like the Lakers didn’t want Howard there as much as he didn’t want to be there.
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- restructure Kobe's deal, because he's old & injured

Good plan, though. Wish we could have done it.[/quote]did, maybe, Kobe come out and say he isn't taking a pay cut and whatnot out of spite to Dwight??
 
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awwsome said:
OKC grew through being a lottery team, great example.

Houston got lucky with Dwight this summer or they would be in the same position. Memphis was already a good team. Pacers again through the draft with George.

It's good for the fans but signing Josh Smith for damn near 60 Mill when your going to have to resign Monroe to a max next year and Drummond in 2.
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How many times have the pistons been in the lottery the last couple years? They have their chips. Brandon knight, KCP, Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond. 4 lottery picks.

Now they signed a damn good player so they can win while those guys grow.
 
i do not see why people do not consider the nets as serious contenders. heart and soul of the boston celtics but you add brooke, deron, and joe johnson. plumlee, blatche, livingston, and terry off the bench.

they should have never signed kidd as coach though.
 
Billiups is going to be part of the coaching staff in a year, i say he retires after the all star break
 
mgrand15 said:
How many times have the pistons been in the lottery the last couple years? They have their chips. Brandon knight, KCP, Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond. 4 lottery picks.

Now they signed a damn good player so they can win while those guys grow.
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The player they signed doesn't fit their needs. Josh Smith is a shooter who can't shoot, not as effective at the 3 as the 4 and if they want to play him there it cuts into Drummond and Monroe's PT. Brandon Knight is about as mediocre as you can get for a PG so don't even mention that pick.

What's being bad one more year when you get a lottery pick in a loaded draft and a better free agency pool?
 
Disagree I think the Smith signing was great. He shot 46% from the field last season even when taking some stupid jump shots. You honestly think Drummond is ready for more than 25 min a game? He's young and raw as hell. Smith will be playing plenty of PF when he's on the bench. Not sure how Knight ever develops as a pg and Billups is certainly not the answer. 
 
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Because its better than being a lottery team, there's only so many superstars coming out.
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Generally true, except most people believe that there is going to be a bona fide superstar in the next draft. So, this might be the year that being a lottery team is better than being a low seeded playoff team.
 
awwsome said:
The player they signed doesn't fit their needs. Josh Smith is a shooter who can't shoot, not as effective at the 3 as the 4 and if they want to play him there it cuts into Drummond and Monroe's PT. Brandon Knight is about as mediocre as you can get for a PG so don't even mention that pick.

What's being bad one more year when you get a lottery pick in a loaded draft and a better free agency pool?
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I don't know what the chemistry is going to be like for the starting lineup but on paper here are some facts. Josh Smith played a lot of 3 last year for the Hawks and those lineups played well. Drummond realistically probably isn't ready for 35 mpg, so Monroe can slide down to 5 and Smith can slide down to 4 for a good chunk of the time. Brandon Knight had a decent rookie year and well have a better idea of his potential once he has less responsibility - I agree tho, his future looks to be mediocre.

I'm not a ride or die fan of these moves but I do believe young players need to start building winning habits eventually. Hoping for next years lottery pick when you already have 4 or 5 youngsters on your team is risky. Monroe needs to start playing in real games. Same with Knight and Drummond.

Will this move workout? Idk probably not- getting to contender status isn't easy but I'm okay with taking a risk when you already have a couple players with high ceilings on the team. Monroe, AD and KCP. They could be like the Pacers soon.

Now the Bucks on the other hand is an example of a team that's happy with the 8th seed forever. That's straight stupidity.
 
[quote name="lawdog1"][quote name="DarthSka"]- in w/ CP3... who said he would sign if we had cap space[/quote]

Where are you getting that from? Not saying isn't true, I'm just wondering what your source is.[/quote]No, no... I was cliffnoting the little snippet I quoted. Read my 3 bullet points, including the one you quoted, as if I was saying "So according to this latest rumor..."
 
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Def agree on those Bucks but Teague certainly an expensive upgrade over Jennings. Blazers seem built to make the 8th seed. Interesting to see if Aldrige gets motivated. Also would help if Thomas Robinson isn't the next Tyrus Thomas. 
 
Dis real liphe?

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I also like what the Blazers did a lot. Thomas Robinson was a damn good prospect, I refuse to believe he's hot trash because the Kings ruined him like that. Robin Lopez is always solid on both ends too
 
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