**Official 2010 NY knicks pre-season thread** 10/6 vs T-wolves (PARIS) 2PM MSG/NBA TV
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- Jul 22, 2004
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Melo's 1-on-1 D has improved though.
- Jul 22, 2004
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Melo's 1-on-1 D has improved though.
- May 5, 2009
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I agree...keep Randolph over Gallo if it has to be done.
- May 5, 2009
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I agree...keep Randolph over Gallo if it has to be done.
big j 33
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I think Randolph's ceiling is a lot higher than Gallinari, but I see Gallo making the most out of his talent and reaching his full potential. Whereas I'm more concerned with Randolph developing into 100% of what he's capable of. I could see him as a Lamar Odom type, capable of of 19 and 19 one night, then 10 and 4 the next. Not saying they're identical players, but that's what I'm reminded of.
Either one are expendable without hesitation if Melo is the end game, I'm just partial to Gallinari since he's played for us already, but that could change once we see Randolph in action.
Either one are expendable without hesitation if Melo is the end game, I'm just partial to Gallinari since he's played for us already, but that could change once we see Randolph in action.
big j 33
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- May 31, 2006
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I think Randolph's ceiling is a lot higher than Gallinari, but I see Gallo making the most out of his talent and reaching his full potential. Whereas I'm more concerned with Randolph developing into 100% of what he's capable of. I could see him as a Lamar Odom type, capable of of 19 and 19 one night, then 10 and 4 the next. Not saying they're identical players, but that's what I'm reminded of.
Either one are expendable without hesitation if Melo is the end game, I'm just partial to Gallinari since he's played for us already, but that could change once we see Randolph in action.
Either one are expendable without hesitation if Melo is the end game, I'm just partial to Gallinari since he's played for us already, but that could change once we see Randolph in action.
- May 11, 2004
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the main priority for the knicks is going to be inside information from Melo and his people.
if theres info of him potentially landing in a favorable location where he would probably sign an extension like say LA, Orlando with d12, Dallas, chicago, etc. or a team tells melo we're not trading for u unless you extend your contract first then the knicks have to swoop in and offer a package of say Curry, Chandler, + AR/Gallo (as much as it hurts to say that we'd have to part with 2 of those 3 players, especially gallo.) and just hope donnie is enough of a G to keep both Gallo+Randolph. Cuz if we do manage to assemble our own big 3 unless we have a better supporting cast we're just a lesser form of MIA.
if theres info of him potentially landing in a favorable location where he would probably sign an extension like say LA, Orlando with d12, Dallas, chicago, etc. or a team tells melo we're not trading for u unless you extend your contract first then the knicks have to swoop in and offer a package of say Curry, Chandler, + AR/Gallo (as much as it hurts to say that we'd have to part with 2 of those 3 players, especially gallo.) and just hope donnie is enough of a G to keep both Gallo+Randolph. Cuz if we do manage to assemble our own big 3 unless we have a better supporting cast we're just a lesser form of MIA.
- May 11, 2004
- 4,524
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the main priority for the knicks is going to be inside information from Melo and his people.
if theres info of him potentially landing in a favorable location where he would probably sign an extension like say LA, Orlando with d12, Dallas, chicago, etc. or a team tells melo we're not trading for u unless you extend your contract first then the knicks have to swoop in and offer a package of say Curry, Chandler, + AR/Gallo (as much as it hurts to say that we'd have to part with 2 of those 3 players, especially gallo.) and just hope donnie is enough of a G to keep both Gallo+Randolph. Cuz if we do manage to assemble our own big 3 unless we have a better supporting cast we're just a lesser form of MIA.
if theres info of him potentially landing in a favorable location where he would probably sign an extension like say LA, Orlando with d12, Dallas, chicago, etc. or a team tells melo we're not trading for u unless you extend your contract first then the knicks have to swoop in and offer a package of say Curry, Chandler, + AR/Gallo (as much as it hurts to say that we'd have to part with 2 of those 3 players, especially gallo.) and just hope donnie is enough of a G to keep both Gallo+Randolph. Cuz if we do manage to assemble our own big 3 unless we have a better supporting cast we're just a lesser form of MIA.
- May 11, 2004
- 4,524
- 218
the main priority for the knicks is going to be inside information from Melo and his people.
if theres info of him potentially landing in a favorable location where he would probably sign an extension like say LA, Orlando with d12, Dallas, chicago, etc. or a team tells melo we're not trading for u unless you extend your contract first then the knicks have to swoop in and offer a package of say Curry, Chandler, + AR/Gallo (as much as it hurts to say that we'd have to part with 2 of those 3 players, especially gallo.) and just hope donnie is enough of a G to keep both Gallo+Randolph. Cuz if we do manage to assemble our own big 3 unless we have a better supporting cast we're just a lesser form of MIA.
the main thing is that if u have that inside info then it can save you from unnecessarily trading away legit young talent with tons of potential.
if theres info of him potentially landing in a favorable location where he would probably sign an extension like say LA, Orlando with d12, Dallas, chicago, etc. or a team tells melo we're not trading for u unless you extend your contract first then the knicks have to swoop in and offer a package of say Curry, Chandler, + AR/Gallo (as much as it hurts to say that we'd have to part with 2 of those 3 players, especially gallo.) and just hope donnie is enough of a G to keep both Gallo+Randolph. Cuz if we do manage to assemble our own big 3 unless we have a better supporting cast we're just a lesser form of MIA.
the main thing is that if u have that inside info then it can save you from unnecessarily trading away legit young talent with tons of potential.
- May 11, 2004
- 4,524
- 218
the main priority for the knicks is going to be inside information from Melo and his people.
if theres info of him potentially landing in a favorable location where he would probably sign an extension like say LA, Orlando with d12, Dallas, chicago, etc. or a team tells melo we're not trading for u unless you extend your contract first then the knicks have to swoop in and offer a package of say Curry, Chandler, + AR/Gallo (as much as it hurts to say that we'd have to part with 2 of those 3 players, especially gallo.) and just hope donnie is enough of a G to keep both Gallo+Randolph. Cuz if we do manage to assemble our own big 3 unless we have a better supporting cast we're just a lesser form of MIA.
the main thing is that if u have that inside info then it can save you from unnecessarily trading away legit young talent with tons of potential.
if theres info of him potentially landing in a favorable location where he would probably sign an extension like say LA, Orlando with d12, Dallas, chicago, etc. or a team tells melo we're not trading for u unless you extend your contract first then the knicks have to swoop in and offer a package of say Curry, Chandler, + AR/Gallo (as much as it hurts to say that we'd have to part with 2 of those 3 players, especially gallo.) and just hope donnie is enough of a G to keep both Gallo+Randolph. Cuz if we do manage to assemble our own big 3 unless we have a better supporting cast we're just a lesser form of MIA.
the main thing is that if u have that inside info then it can save you from unnecessarily trading away legit young talent with tons of potential.
- Jul 13, 2005
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DO NOT TRADE GALLO. I love randolphs game/potential, but i much rather trade him if we HAVE to. I hope the nuggets front office is dumb
wilson chandler, douglas, curry, jerome jordan and future picks
wilson chandler, douglas, curry, jerome jordan and future picks
- Jul 13, 2005
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DO NOT TRADE GALLO. I love randolphs game/potential, but i much rather trade him if we HAVE to. I hope the nuggets front office is dumb
wilson chandler, douglas, curry, jerome jordan and future picks
wilson chandler, douglas, curry, jerome jordan and future picks
- Aug 20, 2005
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as long as mikes here gallo will be a nyk
- Aug 20, 2005
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as long as mikes here gallo will be a nyk
- Mar 8, 2010
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*Now that my ban is over*
Isn't the game they play, let's use the New York media to reheat my image before I drop in elsewhere?
I'm gonna use restraint and treat him like an Inception spoiler before July 13.
Isn't the game they play, let's use the New York media to reheat my image before I drop in elsewhere?
I'm gonna use restraint and treat him like an Inception spoiler before July 13.
- Mar 8, 2010
- 21,800
- 3,553
*Now that my ban is over*
Isn't the game they play, let's use the New York media to reheat my image before I drop in elsewhere?
I'm gonna use restraint and treat him like an Inception spoiler before July 13.
Isn't the game they play, let's use the New York media to reheat my image before I drop in elsewhere?
I'm gonna use restraint and treat him like an Inception spoiler before July 13.
yeeupp
Banned
- Sep 3, 2009
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Those who know Dolan are unanimous in their portrayal of him as a dedicated and prideful contrarian, forever looking to prove that the world has been wrong about him, or whatever. Causes are one thing. Crusades are another. There is a very thin line between contrarianism and chaos when you constantly run on high-octane emotion, as does Dolan. New York Times
Organizational insiders insist that Dolan is not blinded by Thomas, or fooled by his plain-as-day machinations. It is clear that he admires Thomas’s combativeness, his willingness to fly head on into a storm. Most people with Thomas’s reputation around New York wouldn’t dream of getting within 50 miles of the Garden, much less working there again. Compared with Thomas and Dolan, Donnie Walsh is Nelson Mandela. When he replaced Thomas at the Knicks’ helm, Walsh resisted calls from Thomas’s critics for a prompt public execution of his predecessor. Nor did he do away with Thomas’s loyalists, believing the team was entering a transition stage, so why not save the boss some money? New York Times
He ignored his top lieutenants when they recently advised him against hiring back Thomas as a part-time consultant because it would be perceived as a shot at Walsh while creating a news media firestorm. But Dolan’s pattern of demonstrating contempt for conciliation on most fronts has been steady and mostly self-destructive. When Allan Houston and Charlie Ward made comments in a 2001 New York Times Sunday Magazine article that were perceived to be anti- Semitic, Dave Checketts, the Garden’s president, was alarmed by the fallout and pushed for a strong public relations response. Dolan argued that the remarks were misconstrued and he didn’t see the point in giving credence to the critics. Checketts, who presided over a dynamic Knicks decade in the 1990s, was gone from the Garden by the next month. New York Times
Months later, at an N.B.A. Board of Governors meeting, Dolan faced his ownership colleagues and, according to a person who attended the meeting, expressed no remorse for dragging his organization and the N.B.A. by extension through the judicial mud. But that’s Dolan. No matter how many times his stubbornness backfires, he just digs in deeper, certain he will win in the end. New York Time
Nuggets Strategizing Anthony's Departure?
Posted: 8/17/2010 5:21:00 AM
Source: Mark Kiszla of the Denver Post
There is no way Denver can afford to lose the face of its franchise (Carmelo Anthony) for nothing as a free agent.
The Nuggets are now considering a strategy to part ways with their 26-year-old star forward, according to a league source.
After quietly gauging trade interest in Anthony for weeks, the team's consternation has only risen as he has made no move to accept a $65 million offer for a three-year contract extension that was formally presented more than a month ago.
The Nuggets don't want to get LeBron'd.
http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html
yeeupp
Banned
- Sep 3, 2009
- 5,697
- 166
Those who know Dolan are unanimous in their portrayal of him as a dedicated and prideful contrarian, forever looking to prove that the world has been wrong about him, or whatever. Causes are one thing. Crusades are another. There is a very thin line between contrarianism and chaos when you constantly run on high-octane emotion, as does Dolan. New York Times
Organizational insiders insist that Dolan is not blinded by Thomas, or fooled by his plain-as-day machinations. It is clear that he admires Thomas’s combativeness, his willingness to fly head on into a storm. Most people with Thomas’s reputation around New York wouldn’t dream of getting within 50 miles of the Garden, much less working there again. Compared with Thomas and Dolan, Donnie Walsh is Nelson Mandela. When he replaced Thomas at the Knicks’ helm, Walsh resisted calls from Thomas’s critics for a prompt public execution of his predecessor. Nor did he do away with Thomas’s loyalists, believing the team was entering a transition stage, so why not save the boss some money? New York Times
He ignored his top lieutenants when they recently advised him against hiring back Thomas as a part-time consultant because it would be perceived as a shot at Walsh while creating a news media firestorm. But Dolan’s pattern of demonstrating contempt for conciliation on most fronts has been steady and mostly self-destructive. When Allan Houston and Charlie Ward made comments in a 2001 New York Times Sunday Magazine article that were perceived to be anti- Semitic, Dave Checketts, the Garden’s president, was alarmed by the fallout and pushed for a strong public relations response. Dolan argued that the remarks were misconstrued and he didn’t see the point in giving credence to the critics. Checketts, who presided over a dynamic Knicks decade in the 1990s, was gone from the Garden by the next month. New York Times
Months later, at an N.B.A. Board of Governors meeting, Dolan faced his ownership colleagues and, according to a person who attended the meeting, expressed no remorse for dragging his organization and the N.B.A. by extension through the judicial mud. But that’s Dolan. No matter how many times his stubbornness backfires, he just digs in deeper, certain he will win in the end. New York Time
Nuggets Strategizing Anthony's Departure?
Posted: 8/17/2010 5:21:00 AM
Source: Mark Kiszla of the Denver Post
There is no way Denver can afford to lose the face of its franchise (Carmelo Anthony) for nothing as a free agent.
The Nuggets are now considering a strategy to part ways with their 26-year-old star forward, according to a league source.
After quietly gauging trade interest in Anthony for weeks, the team's consternation has only risen as he has made no move to accept a $65 million offer for a three-year contract extension that was formally presented more than a month ago.
The Nuggets don't want to get LeBron'd.
http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html
die hard knicks fan who knows something about basketball would rather have gallo over randolph and I agree.
both players are talented and they have potential...but in the end, would you rather have a player turn out to be like nowitzki or camby?
it is arguable and it depends on what a team really needs (a strong defensive center or a scorer that will get you at least 25 each game)
this whole discussion is pointless unless denver really wants to do a s&t...even so, there are other teams that can offer better players than the knicks.
but s&t would be pointless, because if carmelo refuses to do an extension and he really wants to come to new york, the knicks will easily pick him up next year...
both players are talented and they have potential...but in the end, would you rather have a player turn out to be like nowitzki or camby?
it is arguable and it depends on what a team really needs (a strong defensive center or a scorer that will get you at least 25 each game)
this whole discussion is pointless unless denver really wants to do a s&t...even so, there are other teams that can offer better players than the knicks.
but s&t would be pointless, because if carmelo refuses to do an extension and he really wants to come to new york, the knicks will easily pick him up next year...
die hard knicks fan who knows something about basketball would rather have gallo over randolph and I agree.
both players are talented and they have potential...but in the end, would you rather have a player turn out to be like nowitzki or camby?
it is arguable and it depends on what a team really needs (a strong defensive center or a scorer that will get you at least 25 each game)
this whole discussion is pointless unless denver really wants to do a s&t...even so, there are other teams that can offer better players than the knicks.
but s&t would be pointless, because if carmelo refuses to do an extension and he really wants to come to new york, the knicks will easily pick him up next year...
both players are talented and they have potential...but in the end, would you rather have a player turn out to be like nowitzki or camby?
it is arguable and it depends on what a team really needs (a strong defensive center or a scorer that will get you at least 25 each game)
this whole discussion is pointless unless denver really wants to do a s&t...even so, there are other teams that can offer better players than the knicks.
but s&t would be pointless, because if carmelo refuses to do an extension and he really wants to come to new york, the knicks will easily pick him up next year...
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with all the talk about melo wanting out of denver, for some reason i just dont see him getting traded here. i guess im being pessimistic
- Nov 16, 2002
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with all the talk about melo wanting out of denver, for some reason i just dont see him getting traded here. i guess im being pessimistic
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I'm Done
