Nigeria bans gay marriage, gay meetings -- Does so secretly

[wr]

Fail to see what any of this has to do with homosexuals getting married.

because it is mainstream news.

And we know that this is going to be a big issue with the Russian olympics and their ban on homosexual propaganda.

This is a precursor to what's the new issue to polarize allie and enemy lines around.

"We do not have a ban on non-traditional sexual relationships," said Putin in comments reported by Russian agencies. "We have a ban on the propaganda of homosexuality and paedophilia. I want to underline this. Propaganda among children. These are absolutely different things – a ban on something or a ban on the propaganda of that thing."

Putin also added that Russia was more liberal than some other countries, claiming that in certain US states homosexuality was still punishable by law.

"We are not forbidding anything and nobody is being grabbed off the street, and there is no punishment for such kinds of relations," said Putin. "You can feel relaxed and calm [in Russia], but leave children alone please," said Putin.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/vladimir-putin-gay-winter-olympics-children

 

[deleted]

This is not unique to homosexuality

I don't think anyone was saying that it is.

At least I wasn't.

 

[wr]

I don't think anyone was saying that it is.

At least I wasn't.

me neither, and i feel the same way about the guy pushing his son to go extra hard in sports to make up for his shortcomings.

I feel the same way about a mother throwing makeup on here daughter trying to make her a pageant queen.

 

[miketysonthekiller]

I always wondered, why don't the african tribe leaders ever get the blame for selling their own people?

Whats wrong with talking about sex? If you're mature about it and discuss such topics with your children they can decide for themselves how to identify.

Why is sex tabboo?

Why do people have an issue with other people talking about sex and the act of procreating with their kids?

Some parents don't ever talk to their kids about sex and it becomes and issue. Why? Because these kids go out in the world without the necessary tools and knowledge to not get a girl pregnant. Parents then think to themselves, OH BUT HOW DID MY LITTLE TYRONE END UP IMPREGNATING 20 GIRLS?! HE'S AN ANGEL!!!! or what about Johnny who is having unprotected sex because he fails to understand the possible consequences of doing so? Seriously, parents need to talk to their kids about sex so their kids make better decisions. Most of the problems in a young adults life could be avoided by talking to them like an adult and teaching them right from wrong. Some kids, unfortunately, don't ever learn these lessons. Why pay attention in school if my dad doesn't care?

but whatever

 

[nako xl]

Are homosexuals enslaved?

Are they dying by the millions?

Isn't it true that many homosexuals currently occupy the highest strata of modern society, moreso than other "oppressed groups"?

Exactly.

Further evidence of the rampant nearsightedness all too prevalent when this topic is brought up.

We have very little compassion or unity as a society for truly oppressed factions and really desperate causes but we will frantically gobble up whatever fast food is placed on our plate by the media. This topic is a perfect example of that.

Threads about racial profiling, child labor, environmental destruction, incarceration disparity, neo-colonialism, draconian immigration policies etc. don't stand a chance with out peer group but mutter anything about "homosexual equality" and the uproar will be deafening.

You'll swear that "gay people" are being shackled en masse and forced to live a life of servitude, rather then living in posh enclaves like Beverly Hills and SoHo; often looking down on the same people championing "homosexual equality".

@goldenchild9

So what do you say to Black and Latino gay men?

Do they all occupy the highest strata of society?  Or did you take a minute portion of a people and try to extrapolate it as the norm?

The same way you point out gay people living in Beverly Hills and SoHo, a white person in Russia can say "What do you mean racism and inequality?  Every Black man I've ever seen is a rapper or ball player and makes more money in a year than my entire town combined has ever made."

My point is, generalizing is stupid. 

Just because one group has it bad doesn't mean the other group doesn't deserve to be outraged over injustices committed against them.  This "me against the world, why should I care about the next man" attitude is why the elite privileged class you love to tin foil hat about keeps putting one over you.

You think the big scam is them presenting other group's problems to distract from your own.  When in fact you don't even realize that the scam they're running is convincing you you're so different from those other groups. Divide and conquer. 

And you, whose eyes are so wide open, don't even see it.

And truthfully, it makes me weep as a Black man, when our people who have suffered so much can turn and persecute another, just because their pain isn't the exact same that you experienced.

Black Californian's are nowhere to be found when judges, state reps, and senators who look the other way while Rodney King is being beaten are elected.  But they show up in record numbers when Prop 8 is on the ballot.

But the gays are the ones leading the new world order, right?  It's so much easier to point a finger elsewhere than to just look in a mirror and accept hypocrisy for what it is.

If you can't see that, then you just don't want to.

 

[Brownstone]

I always wondered, why don't the african tribe leaders ever get the blame for selling their own people?

Because of cultural differences. On the west coast or "Ivory" coast, Slavery was much different in the cultural sense. It was more like indentured servitude. Usually this point is brought up by individuals looking to pin blame on anyone but Americans and Europeans. 

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Fail to see what any of this has to do with homosexuals getting married.

because it is mainstream news.

And we know that this is going to be a big issue with the Russian olympics and their ban on homosexual propaganda.

This is a precursor to what's the new issue to polarize allie and enemy lines around.

"We do not have a ban on non-traditional sexual relationships," said Putin in comments reported by Russian agencies. "We have a ban on the propaganda of homosexuality and paedophilia. I want to underline this. Propaganda among children. These are absolutely different things – a ban on something or a ban on the propaganda of that thing."

Putin also added that Russia was more liberal than some other countries, claiming that in certain US states homosexuality was still punishable by law.

"We are not forbidding anything and nobody is being grabbed off the street, and there is no punishment for such kinds of relations," said Putin. "You can feel relaxed and calm [in Russia], but leave children alone please," said Putin.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/vladimir-putin-gay-winter-olympics-children

the fact that it is being used as a polarization method is inarguable. but looking past that, the fact that it's effecting people's lives should be the more important issue.

it's like people talk about this "gay agenda" thing and use it as a means to say it's okay if they're getting oppressed, we're stopping them from reaching their global takeover goals of 2014.

some of the Russians in power are using children as their means of pushing homophobia. kinda like how David Cameron banned porn and blocked a bunch of websites (non-pornographic) to "save the children". it is an empty gesture and it is an abuse of powers to promote certain ideals. this is supposed to be to protect children yet it's to the point over there that gay people have to have their own taxi service because they fear for their lives in public at night.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25778272

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/01/russia-rise-homophobic-violence

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/oct/15/state-sponsored-homophobia-gay-rights

 

[miketysonthekiller]

Because of cultural differences. On the west coast or "Ivory" coast, Slavery was much different in the cultural sense. It was more like indentured servitude. Usually this point is brought up by individuals looking to pin blame on anyone but Americans and Europeans. 

Cool cool.

Capture and sell your enemies.

 

[nako xl]

 

I somewhat agree with that.

There are some parents who try to force their children into a certain sexual identity instead of allowing it to be something that the child realizes naturally.

that's my issue.

Kids are easy to manipulate.

And when that kid get older, they will come back with anger and other issues like the kids going for those old clergymen that did wrong things to them when they were young and under their watch.

They're gonna feel like they were robbed of their childhood.

homosexuality doesnt equal pedophilia.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

separate point:  to go off your comments, you better never EVER entertain your child saying he thinks a girl in his class is cute, until he turns 13.  just cuz gay is weird to you, doesn't mean people discussing sexuality with their kids are trying to indoctrinate them.  if that's the case how do you explain all the (pre)teen mothers who never had the birds and bees convo or sex ed?

i'll leave it at that.

 

[wr]

ppl make better decisions when they are educated.


that girl may not have been a early teen mom if she was educated. that's the best birth control out there

 

[nako xl]

 

I always wondered, why don't the african tribe leaders ever get the blame for selling their own people?

Because of cultural differences. On the west coast or "Ivory" coast, Slavery was much different in the cultural sense. It was more like indentured servitude. Usually this point is brought up by individuals looking to pin blame on anyone but Americans and Europeans. 

Nah, in Nigeria (a West African coastal country) your enemies were your slaves.  It wasn't indentured servitude.  People were your slaves.  And in many cultures when you died, your slaves went in the hole with you.  There wasn't no freedom in 7 years.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

ppl make better decisions when they are educated.

needs more emphasis.

 

[sea manup]

ppl make better decisions when they are educated.


that girl may not have been a early teen mom if she was educated. that's the best birth control out there

yup, but it also depends on who's doing the educating 

 

[Brownstone]

 
Nah, in Nigeria (a West African coastal country) your enemies were your slaves.  It wasn't indentured servitude.  People were your slaves.  And in many cultures when you died, your slaves went in the hole with you.  There wasn't no freedom in 7 years.

Eh, debatable. Evein Nigeria wasn't a unified country during those times, so not sure what you mean by "Nigeria". Different tribes had different cultures. This whole notion of "african tribe leaders" Is in fact preposterous. 

 

[Brownstone]

Cool cool.

Capture and sell your enemies.

? Duh. I am not sure what you mean here, but yes they were enemies. And you are damn right they sold them, it's different because both tribes were black? Pahlease. They hated eachother.

This doesn't give Europeans and Americans of the present to rationalize the slave trade that took place, it's tacky, and incorrect.

 

[nako xl]

 

 
Nah, in Nigeria (a West African coastal country) your enemies were your slaves.  It wasn't indentured servitude.  People were your slaves.  And in many cultures when you died, your slaves went in the hole with you.  There wasn't no freedom in 7 years.

Eh, debatable. Evein Nigeria wasn't a unified country during those times, so not sure what you mean by "Nigeria". Different tribes had different cultures. This whole notion of "african tribe leaders" Is in fact preposterous. 

Ok... IN lands currently considered Nigeria, tribes practiced the capture and enslavement of their enemies.  Some of the tribes would then bury those slaves with their "masters" when said "masters" died.

It's not debatable... this happened.

 

Cool cool.

Capture and sell your enemies.

? Duh. I am not sure what you mean here, but yes they were enemies. And you are damn right they sold them, it's different because both tribes were black? Pahlease. They hated eachother.

This doesn't give Europeans and Americans of the present to rationalize the slave trade that took place, it's tacky, and incorrect.

The point is that Europeans are rightfully demonized for the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.

But people are always hesitant to place the deserved amount of blame on the leaders in those tribes (my ancestors) that were complicit.

 

[Brownstone]

But why? What did they owe their enemies? ...I fail to understand why any blame (aside for using prisoners for a profit) The same people they have lived their whole lives despising? ..... 

 

[ill legal operation]

As if African Americans ain't been clowin Africans for years...

...it's dumb **** on both sides.

Besides you tryna kick up dust, I don't really see the point of you bringin' that up...

 

[luckyluchiano]

As if African Americans ain't been clowin Africans for years...

...it's dumb **** on both sides.

Besides you tryna kick up dust, I don't really see the point of you bringin' that up...

lol word, cats acting like Black Americans dont clown africans especially in grade school. I've always been a proud African but I've seen tons of African kids try to act like they werent 1st gen African to avoid being made fun of.

 

[Peep Game]

No matter the thread, you can always count on @LIONBLOOD not making a point, whether it's about booty, race, or anything in particular

 

[epidemik the great]

kinda sickening that in 2014, there's still people in my generation that co-sign the oppression of a group of people, especially people who've experienced it first hand...

i though that type of ideology would die when these old folks did...guess not...

 

[ill legal operation]

lol word, cats acting like Black Americans dont clown africans especially in grade school. I've always been a proud African but I've seen tons of African kids try to act like they werent 1st gen African to avoid being made fun of.

I dunno there are certain African immigrants who have very supremacist attitudes when they come to this country....Nigerians and other West Africans come to mind.

We aren't talking about Sudanese immigrants, but in this country Nigerians actually share the benefit of the assumption that they are "intelligent immigrants" or a "model minority".


http://thegrio.com/2012/10/05/afric...r-learning-give-preference-to-foreign-blacks/


IRONY.....the theme of this thread should be "haters gonna hate".

Do you even realize how defeatist it is for one to describe themselves as a "model minority?"

Whose opinion are you searching to sway and be deemed an "intelligent immigrant?"

Whose blessing are you seeking to get and receive that pat on your head and be called a "model minority?"

And this Anton ain't it?

 

[RIP sleazyy]

And this Anton ain't it?

weebey dot gif

 

[00david00]

Fail to see what any of this has to do with homosexuals getting married.

because it is mainstream news.

And we know that this is going to be a big issue with the Russian olympics and their ban on homosexual propaganda.

This is a precursor to what's the new issue to polarize allie and enemy lines around.

"We do not have a ban on non-traditional sexual relationships," said Putin in comments reported by Russian agencies. "We have a ban on the propaganda of homosexuality and paedophilia. I want to underline this. Propaganda among children. These are absolutely different things – a ban on something or a ban on the propaganda of that thing."

Putin also added that Russia was more liberal than some other countries, claiming that in certain US states homosexuality was still punishable by law.

"We are not forbidding anything and nobody is being grabbed off the street, and there is no punishment for such kinds of relations," said Putin. "You can feel relaxed and calm [in Russia], but leave children alone please," said Putin.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/vladimir-putin-gay-winter-olympics-children

the fact that it is being used as a polarization method is inarguable. but looking past that, the fact that it's effecting people's lives should be the more important issue.

it's like people talk about this "gay agenda" thing and use it as a means to say it's okay if they're getting oppressed, we're stopping them from reaching their global takeover goals of 2014.

some of the Russians in power are using children as their means of pushing homophobia. kinda like how David Cameron banned porn and blocked a bunch of websites (non-pornographic) to "save the children". it is an empty gesture and it is an abuse of powers to promote certain ideals. this is supposed to be to protect children yet it's to the point over there that gay people have to have their own taxi service because they fear for their lives in public at night.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25778272

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/01/russia-rise-homophobic-violence

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/oct/15/state-sponsored-homophobia-gay-rights

I just want to interject on this particular case, russia banning gay propaganda isn't what lead to an increase in homophobia or anti gay violence. Those types of things have been going on for a while now, the people/culture is not open to gays like American culture is. Only 16% of the Russian population is in favor of ACCEPTING homosexuality http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...-in-line-with-publics-views-on-homosexuality/

Don't look for the Russian gov to go against the population like that. If anything I could imagine it getting WORSE if the government switched it up, they got some groups of people out there that make our conservatives look like left wingers.

 

[bandit country]

Russia is probably the closest thing to Nazi Germany/true fascist state in the world.