NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

[nelson999]

WTF is up with the Chargers offensive play calling?  **** is so conservative its ridiculous.  makes no sense when Rivers has looked very good and the running game is pretty sorry. 

they lost vs TEN last week because of conservative *** play calling at the end of the game and kicking it back to TEN instead of going for the first down

 

[champcruthik]

DT's reference to the two-point embarrassment against the NYG is another damaging display of Matty Ice in the postseason.

 

[blakep267]

man, how many times is Cox going to jump offsides. You cant outsmart Peyton man

 

[champcruthik]

Some blame on Smith and Mularkey. But certainly Matty takes a large portion of responsibility for not moving the offense.

 

[yeahitsrust]

WTF is up with the Chargers offensive play calling?  **** is so conservative its ridiculous.  makes no sense when Rivers has looked very good and the running game is pretty sorry. 

they lost vs TEN last week because of conservative *** play calling at the end of the game and kicking it back to TEN instead of going for the first down

Don't get me started man. Its light and day with the playcalling. Sometimes its brilliant, other times its complete bull. I don't get it either. We stopped bringing pressure on Romo and now he is running train on our secondary.

 

[651akathepaul]

I think supporting cast is silly argument when really getting into the nitty gritty of evaluating quarterbacks so I'm not going down that road. I have no idea what you're looking for in that sentence though.

1-2..So? And I don't know when...If ever.

 

[lyonbc1]

Smh so much for that peyton giving us a dose of our own medicine....god that man is a wizard offense has to strike here, this is a fun game so far though man

 

[noblekane]

I need the raiders to pick up this win to make up for that stupid texans seahawks game

 

[IATT]

Philly competing.

All I ask for from the team this year

 

[broncos19dm]

Good TD Moreno!

 

[CP1708]

**** being a Jaguar fan, being a Jet fan is far worse.

Couple days ago life was great, your QB plays every snap, couple players away from making that run......

 

[100027]

Raiders have heart.

 

[la213espg]

C-Wood

 

[champcruthik]

651: Simply put, we haven't seen Matty elevate his game to elite status. Atlanta has consistently been a NFC SB contender. Yet got smacked by NYG, Ice outperformed by Rodgers and GB, failed to convert a crucial down against SF most recently. That doesn't spell elite for me, which is why I have Ben and Eli above Ice.

 

[651akathepaul]

One game for crying out loud.

So it's better to have an meltdown of mostly a season and not make the playoffs then lead your team to the playoffs and play poorly that one game?

We'll do this another day.

 

[da doc03]

Nice play by Dez

 

[651akathepaul]

651: Simply put, we haven't seen Matty elevate his game to elite status. Atlanta has consistently been a NFC SB contender. Yet got smacked by NYG, Ice outperformed by Rodgers and GB, failed to convert a crucial down against SF most recently. That doesn't spell elite for me, which is why I have Ben and Eli above Ice.

But two elite-type runs and mostly average with well below average sprinkled in is not elite. It's not. No way.

 

[lyonbc1]

Work Shady work

 

[primetime21]

dez is a beast

 

[noblekane]

Man ill never bet against my own team again. I took the rams over the 49ers

 

[champcruthik]

You don't get it. Eli and Ben have earned that privilege. Two SB's apiece. It's not just the titles, but the entirety of the postseason run.

It's clear as day Eli and Ben both suffer in 2013 from porous offensive lines. Defensives that are surprisingly weak given their reputations. Limited to no run game. Ben has no chemistry with his OC. Haley was an awful hire.

Matty Ice hasn't earned that right or benefit of the doubt. Neither has Romo. Bottom line. The end.

 

[T0INE]

Nice play by Dez

Was beginning to think he was gonna only be catching fades in endzone for the rest of the season.

 

[champcruthik]

I personally didn't use the word elite to describe Eli or Ben. I said both are better than Ice and Romo.

Eli and Ben are close to the elite tier which only includes Rodgers, Brees, Peyton, Brady.

 

[651akathepaul]

You don't get it. Eli and Ben have earned that privilege. Two SB's apiece. It's not just the titles, but the entirety of the postseason run.

It's clear as day Eli and Ben both suffer in 2013 from porous offensive lines. Defensives that are surprisingly weak given their reputations. Limited to no run game. Ben has no chemistry with his OC. Haley was an awful hire.

Matty Ice hasn't earned that right or benefit of the doubt. Neither has Romo. Bottom line. The end.

@ "you don't get it"

Let's not get upset because of differing opinions. Jesus, Champ. I get YOUR point just fine. It's not MY way of completely relating to the individual being in a certain tier.

 

[651akathepaul]

Well then that's fine. I can see the debate there. I was thinking you felt they were elite because of those past successes.