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Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

Camping in Killed Confirmed is !@%*$+# disgusting. Can't believe yall really voted for this
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camping in this entire game is disgusting, it's not just limited to Kill Confirmed.  Ain't like it's something new in the last few NT tourneys either
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Originally Posted by Navarretr

Kill confirmed is atrocious. Half the time you kill someone, you die going for the enemies tags
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Part of the point though, can't just go rushing to collect pins.  Trap the other team with their own teammates pins occasionally, especially when they're out in the open.
 
Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

Camping in Killed Confirmed is !@%*$+# disgusting. Can't believe yall really voted for this
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The point wasnt to stop the camping from happening but to prevent camping teams from winning. If people wanna camp during the season I guarantee they wont win any matches. TDM allows teams to camp and still win. KC doesnt simple as that.
 
There's definitely camping in Kill Confirmed. I got a different vibe yesterday when we ran some games...it seems like it's gotten worse over the past few weeks.

The difference w/ the NT season is if you camp...you lose. You can sit in one spot and make your stats look pretty but that's not gonna win you the game.

EDIT: I didn't see Bay's post but we basically said same %%+!.

Some maps should be straight up banned though. Lockdown
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Outpost
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I hope Boost keeps those boards off.
Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

but NOW it will be Kill Confirmed for the first match and which ever team wins still picks the next map and game mode.

Full info coming soon.
I don't remember this being talked about in the post-draft lobby.
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I thought teams picked game modes in the playoffs? Only maps gets picked in reg. season?

And we need that full info b. Let's try to avoid any unnecessary bull @+$# this season.
 
I'm fine with Lockdown but yeah I completely agree that Outpost should be removed. There is a lot of camping on Fallen also.
 
Lockdown is one of my fav. maps...but I know these NT %#*%$+ will be perched up all day in buildings.
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I didn't think about Fallen but that might be another one too.
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ban noobtubes, any type of launchers, and pointstreaks everyone should run specialist only, gun on gun only, __ with the best aim/reflexes/tatics/connections are gonna win
 
Originally Posted by ChicagoKid23

ban noobtubes, any type of launchers, and pointstreaks everyone should run specialist only, gun on gun only, __ with the best aim/reflexes/tatics/connections are gonna win

not even specialist. should ban silencers too imo.
 
Originally Posted by BustaDimes

Originally Posted by ChicagoKid23

ban noobtubes, any type of launchers, and pointstreaks everyone should run specialist only, gun on gun only, __ with the best aim/reflexes/tatics/connections are gonna win

not even specialist. should ban silencers too imo.
No reloading either everyone only gets 30 bullets. Better make your shots count.
 
Originally Posted by MJair

Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

Camping in Killed Confirmed is !@%*$+# disgusting. Can't believe yall really voted for this 
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The point wasnt to stop the camping from happening but to prevent camping teams from winning. If people wanna camp during the season I guarantee they wont win any matches. TDM allows teams to camp and still win. KC doesnt simple as that.

Last night all of you guys except for Me, Just and Soulful wanted Kill Confirmed as the default first game mode because TDM promotes camping. Teams will STILL camp, KC doesn't prevent or stop it less compare to TDM. In TDM you just kill and that's it, but in KC you have to kill AND collect a tag, there is MORE camping in this game mode, period. Every game mode has camping, unfortunately it's part of the game. I can't wait to hear you guys **%%+ and complain about dudes camping for dog tags or how the other team won because they camped for that last tag. 
Originally Posted by iLLoQuent aka DSK


Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

but NOW it will be Kill Confirmed for the first match and which ever team wins still picks the next map and game mode.

Full info coming soon.
I don't remember this being talked about in the post-draft lobby.
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I thought teams picked game modes in the playoffs? Only maps gets picked in reg. season?

And we need that full info b. Let's try to avoid any unnecessary bull @+$# this season.
It's the same like last season, first game mode is TDM ( or now KC 
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 ) and ull randomly be selected a map. Which ever team wins picks the next game mode and map. Best out of 3. Full info coming yall.
 
Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

Originally Posted by MJair

Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

Camping in Killed Confirmed is !@%*$+# disgusting. Can't believe yall really voted for this 
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The point wasnt to stop the camping from happening but to prevent camping teams from winning. If people wanna camp during the season I guarantee they wont win any matches. TDM allows teams to camp and still win. KC doesnt simple as that.

Last night all of you guys except for Me, Just and Soulful wanted Kill Confirmed as the default first game mode because TDM promotes camping. Teams will STILL camp, KC doesn't prevent or stop it less compare to TDM. In TDM you just kill and that's it, but in KC you have to kill AND collect a tag, there is MORE camping in this game mode, period. Every game mode has camping, unfortunately it's part of the game. I can't wait to hear you guys **%%+ and complain about dudes camping for dog tags or how the other team won because they camped for that last tag. 

Still missing the point though. KC doesn't prevent camping but it prevents a camping team from winning. How exactly do you camp for dog tags? If someone camps in a building shooting people out the window they would be helping their team in TDM but hurting their team in KC cause they're not capturing tags. If people want to camp this season they are more than welcome to, but I guarantee they wont be winning any objective matches.

Edit: Also you cant compare pub matches to season games. People in pubs care more about their K/D ratio than W/L so of course it sucks. During the Season everyone will probably be going for the W. The matches will be more exciting cause people will be running after dog tags, which is better than teams playing TDM til the clock runs out.
 
There's still camping in KC but more often than not the team who is better at short range to medium range combat is going to win. IMO it's best to have half the team posted up "camping" and the other half flanking and collecting tags. The ones who are stronger in closer range combat should obviously be doing this. You don't have to get every tag but if you're killing and not dying (not giving up tags) and picking up 70 percent of your tags you'll win.

More often than not the mistake is that someone wants to collect every tag he sees...he's on the top of the scoreboard cuz he got all the tags but he dies like 20 times, 25 times in the process giving the other team air support and making it hard for the rest of us to collect tags.

The other extreme is when the team, sometimes my team, wants to camp .... everyone has positive ratios but loses the game.

Gotta be a middle.

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There's also gotta be a little logic in this too.  If a tag is left out in the open untouched for longer than 20 seconds or something like that you just knoow someone is camping for it.  If it's just one tag I'm not going to go for it but if it's like 4 tags lying around I just might if I think I can take it all before I die.  If I die it's one tag I'm giving up but at least I got four.  That's just my thinking. 
 
Good games tonight on Dom fellas. I thought we were taking the L on that one game but came back won by like 8 points
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Originally Posted by MJair

Originally Posted by BustaDimes

Originally Posted by ChicagoKid23

ban noobtubes, any type of launchers, and pointstreaks everyone should run specialist only, gun on gun only, __ with the best aim/reflexes/tatics/connections are gonna win

not even specialist. should ban silencers too imo.
No reloading either everyone only gets 30 bullets. Better make your shots count.


  
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 word.  Where's the line gonna be drawn with this stuff.  Same !%#! every season.  If everyone is going to go back and forth and throw their two cents into what should/shouldn't belong in the games, might as well just run barebones. 
 
LMAO @ arguing kill comfirmed doesnt promote camping

i refuse to play it

people just camp tags

at least in TDM you just camp a corner and wait

in KC you just camp tags, kill, then collect tags once people stop going for the tags youre camping



in terms of game modes that definitely dont reward camping?

i like hardcore HQ.

i accidently got stuck in a hardcore HQ match, at the end, i camped cause i didnt understand the game mode....our team lost 200-0

LMAO

either that or domination

i really cant believe yall compete with kill confirmed

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Originally Posted by Proshares

Originally Posted by MJair

Originally Posted by BustaDimes





not even specialist. should ban silencers too imo.
No reloading either everyone only gets 30 bullets. Better make your shots count.


  
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 word.  Where's the line gonna be drawn with this stuff. 


  
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yall should host a knife fight tourny...i'd buy a ps3
 
Originally Posted by ChicagoKid23

ban noobtubes, any type of launchers, and pointstreaks everyone should run specialist only, gun on gun only, __ with the best aim/reflexes/tatics/connections are gonna win

Just make it barebones.

No pointstreaks, perks or anything.

I don't need these bums using steady aim hip firing me from 2.3 miles away because they can't aim for *#!$.
 
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