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That's exactly what i thought when I saw the vid. I dont really think dude is racist.
Mike Greenberg should be fired today for this @%%%
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That's exactly what i thought when I saw the vid. I dont really think dude is racist.
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Toughen up
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If by "toughen up" you mean turn a blind eye or gloss over racial slurs being uttered (mistakenly or not) on national television...especially in this type of context... then no, I think not.Originally Posted by nnarum
Toughen upI hope you never make any mistakes... The people calling for his head don't understand that this dude is afraid to to even think something politically incorrect.
And no, I never make the kind of mistake Greenberg did
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Originally Posted by red mpls
If by "toughen up" you mean turn a blind eye or gloss over racial slurs being uttered (mistakenly or not) on national television... especially in this type of context... then no, I think not.Originally Posted by nnarum
Toughen upI hope you never make any mistakes... The people calling for his head don't understand that this dude is afraid to to even think something politically incorrect.
And no, I never make the kind of mistake Greenberg did.
Have you written ESPN about your disgust yet? Or have you "turned a blind eye"? And bless your soul for never slipping up a word. May you be anexample for all of us. At the end of the day, nothing is going to happen. Why? He corrected himself immediatly after the tongue tie, and issued an unnecessaryapology. Do you even follow his show? Or just want to chime in on a witch hunt outing the racists? My friend, you are looking in the wrong area.
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You're right, nothing is going to happen... and given the apology and the original circumstances, I don't believe further action is reallywarranted... so I will not write ESPN or pursue any kind of follow-up action. But it is NOT "unnecessary" toapologize for using a racial slur on national television; that, my friend, is VERY NECESSARY whether or not what hesaid was intentional.
And no, I don't follow his show. What does that have to do with this situation? Do I have to follow Mike & Mike to have an opinion on what happened? I never claimed any type of knowledge of the show or Greenberg that would make my familiarity with the show the slightest bit relevant.
I'm not out "looking" for racists... they usually do a good enough job of exposing themselves to any critically thinking person. And how is themedia the "wrong place" to analyze content for racism?
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He asked if you watch the show, because if you did you would know Mike Greenberg is the most politically correct, ultra-liberal on ESPN's payroll. Some ofyour (and others') comments show clearly that you don't have any prior knowledge of Greenberg's person or track record and it seems like you'reall just piling on.
It is funny that he's the one in the center of this controversy when he'd typically be the guy calling for apologies from other sportscasters forracist and sexist comments no matter how "harmless" some may perceive them.
But at the end of the day, Mike's not a closet racist, he speaks very quickly and if you DID watch the show you would know that he stumbles on his wordsand slips up often enough. It's just unfortunate that it happened in this circumstance.
The apology WAS necessary because no mater how innocent the mistake was and even though he did correct himself immediately, it did alarm and unsettle a lot ofpeople and the courteous thing was for him to apologize officially, and he did that. That should be enough.
It really wasn't that big a deal. Just a very unfortunate and public mistake. No need to call for the man's head.
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Yeah I dont think this dude is a racist. Think about it, he's been on the air for l0 years straight rambling like all talk radio hosts do. SO I can see howhe could mess and say that especially if he trying to say the whole name.
Come on Mike Greenberg, a racist?
I could honestly see this dude letting Black dudes bang his wife, if you've ever seen the show if comes off as this sorta wimpy guy, seriously doubt hemean it.
Come on Mike Greenberg, a racist?
I could honestly see this dude letting Black dudes bang his wife, if you've ever seen the show if comes off as this sorta wimpy guy, seriously doubt hemean it.
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Coming from a black dude, I gotta say, it aint that serious. Let it go.
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I could honestly see this dude letting Black dudes bang his wife
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So can we /thread?
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nope not enough to fire him, a mistake... thats all it was, get over it.
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first off i watch the show on espn2 when i am out late or still up and i must say mike greenberg is an articulate thought provoking guy from what i have seen.and i have prob watched/heard 23/30 hours of this show total in the past few years. without knowing or listening to them ever before its very easy to take anACCIDENT out of context. if you had watched the show you'd know that homie does ALOT of the talking. sort of like the play by play man in a basketballgame. he is responsible for the teases into and out of break, also has to spit out all the on air ads they make them do. so knowing that alone its easy to makea mix up. add in that as most have said in a rush its easy to get syllables misplaced/rushed when speaking quickly...
seems like alot of people calling for him to be fired almost WANT him to be a racist. you hear what you want to hear, and as i was taught in a few diffrentenglish classes if one has a strong enough opinion anything can be twisted and taken out of context. however part of rhetoric as it pertains to both thespeaker and listener is listening for tone and context. after the initial shock you cant tell me that its not clear that in this case he stumbled on his words.and for that you want him fired? we just got rid of a president who did the same exact thing for 8 years straight...give me a break.
one last thing and this might be a slight reach but those saying "well he said it so he must have thought it and use it everyday" you yourself areracist for that thought process. why you may ask..if this was an african american host itd be more of a "wow he butchered that" followed by a joke.however since this is a white man he HAS to be a racist?
if this incident is your definition of racisim youve had an easy life...just my two cents though.
oh and since it matters i am italian, and mexican.
seems like alot of people calling for him to be fired almost WANT him to be a racist. you hear what you want to hear, and as i was taught in a few diffrentenglish classes if one has a strong enough opinion anything can be twisted and taken out of context. however part of rhetoric as it pertains to both thespeaker and listener is listening for tone and context. after the initial shock you cant tell me that its not clear that in this case he stumbled on his words.and for that you want him fired? we just got rid of a president who did the same exact thing for 8 years straight...give me a break.
one last thing and this might be a slight reach but those saying "well he said it so he must have thought it and use it everyday" you yourself areracist for that thought process. why you may ask..if this was an african american host itd be more of a "wow he butchered that" followed by a joke.however since this is a white man he HAS to be a racist?
if this incident is your definition of racisim youve had an easy life...just my two cents though.
oh and since it matters i am italian, and mexican.
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i blame rap music for nt being so dumb
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Wait, you guys are seriously comparing a car accident to a word slip up? Car accidents have the potential to injure people, cause death, and damage personal property. I don't understand how someone trying to speak faster than theyprobably should, and mess up a word even how unfortunate it sounded, can compare to an accident... Do we call for peoples heads who ram their cars into othercars?
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^ Nnarum... please tell me you didnt miss this one though...
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Originally Posted by HAM CITY
I'm just saying! He gives me that vibe.
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That's great but I never asked for his resignation or for ESPN to fire him or claimed that Greenberg was racist. That's fine that hespeaks quickly and his words slip up sometimes but when his words slip up to utter a racial slur then an apology is called for even if he didn't intend it(which I never claimed he did)... So actually I think we're in agreement here.
And you're still missing it...Originally Posted by nnarum
Wait, you guys are seriously comparing a car accident to a word slip up? Car accidents have the potential to injure people, cause death, and damage personal property. I don't understand how someone trying to speak faster than they probably should, and mess up a word even how unfortunate it sounded, can compare to an accident... Do we call for peoples heads who ram their cars into other cars?
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Originally Posted by nnarum
Wait, you guys are seriously comparing a car accident to a word slip up? Car accidents have the potential to injure people, cause death, and damage personal property. I don't understand how someone trying to speak faster than they probably should, and mess up a word even how unfortunate it sounded, can compare to an accident... Do we call for peoples heads who ram their cars into other cars?
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I used the car accident as an example of a situation in which a lack of intent does not necessarily mean no one should be held accountable. I wasn'tcomparing the two, I thought that much was obvious. He slipped up, it was a horrific slip-up, he apologized sincerely, and it is over. My problem was with thepeople that were making it seem like this was a complete non-issue because he didn't mean it.
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some people will never understand..
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If you weren't comparing the two why bring up such a dumb analogy? Because you're trying to make people see the relationship between the two ideas. Unfortunately, those those ideas have nothing to do with one another - nothing at all therefore there was no point in making the analogy you made.
Intent is EVERYTHING. Forget the implication of the word he happened to mutter. This was a mere fumbling of words, a momentary lapse of brain to motor skills - this happens to EVERYONE. You're going way too far by trying to state that this was something that deserved even the slightest kind of reprimand. This was not something that he meant to say "jokingly" only for it to fail miserably like the Don Imus incident or even something he said on the sly only to cover it up with a nicely packaged apology.
You may think you're being a socially conscious & morally upstanding citizen by bringing up the explanation you did, but people like you who cry wolf over things like this only serve as a deterrent for dealing with real issues of racism and prejudice. You're so over the top with trying to be politically correct that it's actually more harmful than whatever it is you're campaigning against.
