**LOCK NEEDED** 2018-19 NFL thread/ macbk has his back stabbed. Everyone go to nickmaz' thread!

[nick.]

I'd take Jamaal Charles over AP

His prime was crazy underrated

I don't have the numbers in front of me but he had some seasons over 6 YPC

 

[youngthundercat]

Tiki is not close AP.

Fools are drunk Bruh...


My mans said Cj Anderson > AP

 

[Chester McFloppy]

**** Tiki Barber and his ****** twin Shaun Alexander

Ronde tho

 

[kicks2024]

AP hasn't proven if he's washed or not. 2015 he had 1485 yrds 11 TD's at 30. He was hurt last year. Now he's on a team that don't fit him at all.

They said DeMarco Murray was done after that year in Philly .. had a great year in Tennessee

Still got a whole season to judge AP, his few games in Minny last year werent that great were they

 

[Lovetohate3000]

Still think marshawn a better fit for Oakland then ap. Y'all mention players like Murray but he ain't 32.. Stop it.. Ap washed. Time to give it up.. He ain't a 20 productive touches a game guy anymore.. Could be good in a back up and goal line role..

Peyton went from all pro to garbage within two seasons... Two seasons is a long time in nfl yeArs

 

[stillin729]

They said DeMarco Murray was done after that year in Philly .. had a great year in Tennessee

Still got a whole season to judge AP, his few games in Minny last year werent that great were they

Demarco was 26

 

[youngthundercat]

So you going off the 30 year old RB narrative?

 

[CP1708]

Tiki 109 Starts
10449 yards
4.7 per carry
586 receptions
5183 yards
15632 total yards
67 TD


AP 117 starts
11765 yards
4.9 per carry
241 receptions
1945 yards
13710 total yards
102 TD

AP is clearly the better runner, but in terms of better overall RB, to say "not close" is shortsighted.

Again, AP is clearly the better runner. Don't twist it. AP, is, better.

But "not close"? Tiki certainly got off to a slow start, but his 27-31 seasons were top notch. If he wasn't such a douche bag he might have played a little longer and really piled up some totals.

 

[stillin729]

So you going off the 30 year old RB narrative?

No I think AP is a shell of his glory days and at best is a 3rd down back

I watched his preseason where he ran "his style" only to get 3 yards every time, I could be wrong but Father Time gets us all

 

[pharaohing jay]

Has the Pederson/Schwartz/Michael Lombardi thing been talked about?

Link: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...ardi-doug-pederson-jim-schwartz-20170909.html

“Everybody knows Pederson isn’t a head coach. He might be less qualified to coach a team than anyone I’ve ever seen,” Lombardi said during the Ringer video segment. “When will the Eagles admit their mistake? Will they throw away 2017 by stubbornly sticking to the Pederson Principle?”

Having Schwartz, a former head coach with a large personality, in the building always threatened to overshadow Pederson. Lombardi doubled down on his remarks during interviews with the Inquirer and PST. He said that Pederson wasn’t detail-oriented enough. He pointed out that Wentz and the Eagles offense had regressed last season.

And he questioned the second-year coach’s ability to stand in front of his team and inspire confidence – a bold presumption unless he gathered it from someone in the room. The only Eagles entity who escaped Lombardi’s wrath was Schwartz.

One Eagles staffer said the only coach who probably doesn’t think Schwartz is trying to undercut Pederson is Pederson. Three players, who requested anonymity, said that it has become well-known in the locker room that Schwartz is waiting to usurp power.

“[Schwartz] walks around the building like he thinks he’s the head coach,” one player said.

Schwartz is bright and has one of the better defensive minds in the NFL, but some Eagles coaches and players said that he’s arrogant. A few players said they liked his swagger. He has been known, much like Kelly, to walk past colleagues in the hallways without acknowledgement.

 

[stillin729]

Has the Pederson/Schwartz/Michael Lombardi thing been talked about?

Link: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...ardi-doug-pederson-jim-schwartz-20170909.html

Eagles fired him back in the day, that's why the players dumped the cooler on Doug to show they got his back

 

[Lovetohate3000]

No I think AP is a shell of his glory days and at best is a 3rd down back

I watched his preseason where he ran "his style" only to get 3 yards every time, I could be wrong but Father Time gets us all

People go off of names and players reps

. I remember bout a year and a half ago people was still arguing with me that rg3 would go somewhere else and ball out.... Hell when people think of kaep they think of John harbaugh Kaep and not the production and player we've seen the past few years

 

[stillin729]

People go off of names and players reps

. I remember bout a year and a half ago people was still arguing with me that rg3 would go somewhere else and ball out....

That Emmitt Smith on the Cardinals vibe

 

[Lovetohate3000]

No I think AP is a shell of his glory days and at best is a 3rd down back

I watched his preseason where he ran "his style" only to get 3 yards every time, I could be wrong but Father Time gets us all

3rd down backs are usually scat backs or good catching out the back field.. More like goal line short yard age situations if that.

 

[youngthundercat]

No I think AP is a shell of his glory days and at best is a 3rd down back

I watched his preseason where he ran "his style" only to get 3 yards every time, I could be wrong but Father Time gets us all

Ok...can't argue that. I have to see him twice this year so I'll hold my opinion

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Tiki 109 Starts
10449 yards
4.7 per carry
586 receptions
5183 yards
15632 total yards
67 TD


AP 117 starts
11765 yards
4.9 per carry
241 receptions
1945 yards
13710 total yards
102 TD

AP is clearly the better runner, but in terms of better overall RB, to say "not close" is shortsighted.

Again, AP is clearly the better runner. Don't twist it. AP, is, better.

But "not close"? Tiki certainly got off to a slow start, but his 27-31 seasons were top notch. If he wasn't such a douche bag he might have played a little longer and really piled up some totals.

Another case where #'s don't tell the full story. It's a long list of RB's between AP and Tiki. AP is a all time RB. Tiki was nice but he ain't close to that.

 

[kicks2024]

Demarco was 26

Yeah bit lets not act like some people werent calling him to give it up saying his numbers were because he was in dallas.

 

[stillin729]

Yeah bit lets not act like some people werent calling him to give it up saying his numbers were because he was in dallas.

He was never used right here, Chip tried to make him Shady and Demarco

 

[Deleted member 185039]

People go off of names and players reps

. I remember bout a year and a half ago people was still arguing with me that rg3 would go somewhere else and ball out.... Hell when people think of kaep they think of John harbaugh Kaep and not the production and player we've seen the past few years

Harbaugh masked and exploited tangibles and intangibles during a window of opportunity that was prime for Kaep, the 49ers, and the league at the time.
There is a time and place. You are either ahead of the curve or yesterday's news when everyone figures it out and everyone moves on to something else.
Players are lucky to have good coaches, players, staff and organizations around them to grow them. The window of opportunity is extremely short.
Players I watched and came to understand over the last 12 years have retired/since moved onto other things. We're getting old(er) too . Life is something else.

 

[kdslittlebro]

Has the Pederson/Schwartz/Michael Lombardi thing been talked about?

Link: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...ardi-doug-pederson-jim-schwartz-20170909.html

 

[dland24]

AP can walk into:

Colts
Broncos
Ravens
Jets
Browns
Houston
9ers
Lions
Giants


And easily be the best back in the lockerroom.

LOL

 

[Deleted member 185039]

LOL

I knew you would do this.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Now that i think about it Tiki wasn't even as good as Fred Taylor, Eddie George or Frank Gore. Tiki had 4-5 real good years but before that dude was sorry as hell. AP carried a franchise from day 1 with bum *** QB's except that one year with Brett. Not close at all.

 

[HNL HI]

why would they fire dude, he sucks or something?

 

[stillin729]

we are collecting Alex secrets