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[essential1]

Yes we have his rights, they're not going to not match him considering his deal would be such a bargain the first 2 seasons.

I don't think they have his bird rights though so I don't think they can go over the cap to sign him.  Doesn't really matter though because his salary will only be like 5.5M due to the Arenas exception.

They do have his rights.

After Clarkson's second season in the league, the Lakers will hold his early bird rights, which enable the team to spend up to $6 million, and $26.7 million over four seasons, to retain him.

That figure is presumably below Clarkson's market value, but because he is restricted and the Lakers only hold his early bird rights, the Arenas rule applies -- limiting what other teams can offer Clarkson to just $5.6 million for the 2016-17 season.

So there is little to no incentive for teams to make an offer for him.


Also when you deal Lou Williams anyway, it's pretty much irrelevant

Depending on the timing, if the Lakers matched another team's offer sheet, Clarkson would take up between $2.8 million and $5.6 million in cap space in 2016 and $5.9 million in 2017.

So on a technicality, we are both right

As long as the Lakers slot out $2.8 million for Clarkson, the team can use cap room to sign free agents, and then either bring back Clarkson with their early bird rights at the $6-million figure, or match another team's offer sheet.

 

[kingjaffejo]

Honestly if I was Mitch I would tell Clarkson's agent to have him sign an offer sheet on purpose just so we can match it and put him under the Arenas exception OR
have Mitch put a call into one of his close GM friends of another team to have them give Clarkson an offer knowing we would match as a favor.
Because trust we want Clarkson to get an offer. Will make life way easier with that Arenas exception.

 

[essential1]

Another possible scenario..... Which would make a **** ton of sense...

Clarkson can accept the Lakers' one year qualifying offer for what is likely $2.8 million but he'd end up restricted once again in 2017 -- although the Arenas rule would no longer be applicable.

Either take 4 year / $26mil..... Or take the one year qualifying offer at $2.8mil, and then in 2017, you are a RFA again, without a cap on how much you can earn.

In the grand scheme, he probably makes himself an extra $20-30mil in this scenario.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Yup. Expecting JC to gamble on himself and make this season his true contract year

 

[junglejim]

As long as the Lakers slot out $2.8 million for Clarkson, the team can use cap room to sign free agents, and then either bring back Clarkson with their early bird rights at the $6-million figure, or match another team's offer sheet.

That is pretty legit that they can get away with only slotting out $2.8M in cap for him, granted it isn't much different than $5M.  If we could get Clarkson at 5M for two more years before you really have to pay him anything that would be pretty awesome.  Then if we strike out this year we still at least have another opportunity next year.

 

[junglejim]

Anyone down with Joakim Noah on like a 2-3 year contract?  Brings rebounding and defense which we desperately need.

 

[pmatic]

Yes.

 

[trynafeelmink]

i'M 100% with that as long as he's reasonably healthy. Joakim would help bring that intensity to the youngins and i believe still has a lot of game left. Looks like he's def out of Chi also

Joakim Noah may have belted out his last primal scream in a Bulls uniform.

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Noah has been telling teammates in recent weeks that he was done with the organization once free agency begins, and “has no trust in the front office getting this in the right direction,’’ according to a Bulls player.
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The player was asked if Noah’s feelings had anything to do with first-year coach Fred Hoiberg and the tension that developed between the two early in the season, when Noah lost his starting job. The player insisted that Noah didn’t bring up the rift as an explanation for his desire to bolt.

What was offered up, however, was the notion that there seems to be a complete mistrust multiple players have toward general manager Gar Forman, with Noah leading that charge.

Jo1
According to the player, former coach Tom Thibodeau was always able to shield the players from the front office, having them buy into the idea that it was “us against them.’’

However, Hoiberg was deemed a Forman hire, so that wall was very blurry.

What the players have been trying to figure out in building their relationship with Hoiberg has been exactly how tied the coach is with Forman.

“They might not be as tight as everyone, including Gar, thinks,’’ one league source said of the Hoiberg-Forman relationship.

That remains a very important issue moving forward for this team.

“We know there’s at least one assistant [coach] that tells Gar everything that goes on,’’ the player said. “There’s a lot of guys that have a problem with that, and not just Jo.’’

A lot of guys aren’t about to hit the free-agent market, however. Noah is.

The 31-year-old is coming off one of his worst seasons since he came into the league as a rookie back in 2007, averaging just 4.3 points and 8.8 rebounds per game, before facing season-ending shoulder surgery after just 29 games.

The numbers told only part of the story, however.

Near the end of training camp, Hoiberg announced that Noah would be coming off the bench. There was a back-and-forth concerning if Noah volunteered for that, with the big man vehemently denying that scenario.

The Noah-Hoiberg relationship seemed to be mending before Noah went down with the injury, but the Noah-Forman bridge remains broken unless there is a complete change of heart.

Noah, who is one of the more charitable players in the entire NBA, had become so annoyed with Forman that he actually turned down a chance to help Bulls Charities earlier this season. According to the player, Noah was approached by Leslie Forman – Gar’s wife, as well as the VP of Bulls Charities – to take place in “some auction where he would have to ride around town with the winner or something like that.”

Noah didn’t like the way he was approached and pressured, so flatly said no.

“Not like Jo at all,’’ the player said.

There was no response from Noah after attempts were made to reach him on the matter. Forman also didn’t respond.

But that also pulls back another layer with the Bulls that rubs players the wrong way. The feeling is there is no accountability with Forman because of the relationship he and his wife have with team president and COO Michael Reinsdorf and his wife, Nancy.

Nancy is the president of Bulls Charities and works closely with Leslie.

“[Noah] represents a lot of things that we believe in,’’ VP of basketball operations John Paxson said in mid-April about re-signing Noah. “So we have an affinity for Jo. But we’ve got to talk, we’ve got to see where it goes.’’

It may have already gone.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

No to Noah.

 

[CP1708]

If any team offers Clarkson a contract and he signs it would be doing the Lakers a huge favor. They will match it. I almost don't even expect him to get an offer because it would do nothing but help the Lakers.

Like Tobias last year.

 

[pmatic]

Watching the WCFs, just look at all the top 10 picks on the court at the same time. And OKC has the edge because they're just more physically dominating compared to GSW counterparts (Roberson-Thompson is a wash).

It makes the argument for Whiteside and yes, DeRozan stronger.

 

[CP1708]

Beal/Barnes too, (tho I expect they get matched)

 

[comptonprince]

GS really don't need Barnes 

 

[pmatic]

They do if they want to play small ball...

 

[comptonprince]

They do if they want to play small ball...

He doesn't do anything that cant be replaced for wayyyyy less money 

He has underachieved in my eyes...

 

[pmatic]

Find an attainable SF that can play PF without compromising the spacing on offense and defense/rebounding when they go small.

 

[licensed to ball]

Find an attainable SF that can play PF without compromising the spacing on offense and defense/rebounding when they go small.

Nick Young.

Take dat L, P.

 

[had pants]

I'm down with Noah...

a few years ago.

 

[licensed to ball]

HAD GONNA HAD.

 

[SORIANOTRON]

Barnes all the way

 

[had pants]

HAD GONNA HAD.

 

[pmatic]

 

[ValarMorghulis]

Watching this game I think Biyombo's agent is looking at his performance vs TT and then looking at Tristan Thompson contract as the baseline for his deal

:x :x

 

[pmatic]

@SeanDeveney Bismack Biyombo has NBA execs talking $17 million a year — but not max, yet http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/new...lls-houston-rockets/gmhq185wbjpw15rmhj6cdwdiz

@ZachLowe_NBA Hearing same range. League clearly views him now as a legit starting center, will get paid as such.