[:: LAKERS 2014 THREAD | POLL: Who Should Coach Next Year? ::]

[darthska]

Excellent

 

[sea manup]

hope im not too late 

 

[licensed to ball]

Seaman showing his intellectual side in the general forum.

Breaking down contemporary art like he's an art history professor... I see you dawg, I see you.

Actually quite impressive, to be honest.

You should show that intellectual side more often in our thread. Educate some of the youngins.

 

[sea manup]

leave JR Swish out of this 

 

[sea manup]

Seaman showing his intellectual side in the general forum.

Breaking down contemporary art like he's an art history professor... I see you dawg, I see you.

Actually quite impressive, to be honest.

You should show that intellectual side more often in our thread. Educate some of the youngins.

I'm working on it, finally found time to finish reading the nba salary cap FAQ page

gotta educate myself before I educate the people

 

[essential1]

Wanted to start this into a political conversation... Forgot where I was

 

[sea manup]

Wanted to start this into a political conversation... Forgot where I was

who are the 4 big men that you said you had your eye on?

 

[had pants]

Just watched the replay from last night. This team really plays with heart and really enjoys each others company out there. Last season, each high five looked so forced that it was hard to watch.

Yeah, it was awkward. There was no camaraderie and every high five Kobe gave Dwight in his mind:

 

[darthska]

[quote name="L2B"]You should show that intellectual side more often in our thread.[/quote]Ummm... do you not see his avy, which appears in his every post?

That avy = knowledge: DROPPED

 

[sea manup]

millions of reps will be given to anyone that can turn my steve blake face into 

 

[licensed to ball]

I'd be 100x more impressed if that 'makeagif.com' watermark wasnt in the bottom corner.

It takes too much attention away from Blake Da Gawd's face.

 

[sea manup]

earl clark doing nothing for the cavs

hope these bum teams realize that role players play better in a lakers uniform and stop overpaying for all our damn one hit wonders 

we need to keep this bench next year

 

[darthska]

[quote name="sea manup"]millions of reps will be given to anyone that can turn my steve blake face into 
[/quote]Dude... if anyone... adbyrhhAFBUHgAHHh...

*dead*

 

[CP1708]

we need to keep this bench next year

In working along those very lines, I'm perusing pieces I'd like to see us chase next year.

I'd like to avoid Melo, Rudy Gay, Z-Bo, etc. So I rather go depth+talent more so than star talent + fill ins. (if we can)


First is PG Kyle Lowry. We've all wanted Lowry for a long long time, he's our new "Sessions" obsession. He's a little old, but still usable and I have a backup plan for him anyways. 6-0, can shoot and defend well enough, penetrate, not toooooo expensive, but he won't play for free surely.
I take Lowry on the basis that we may not pull Rondo in 2015, therefore whatever pick we land this year, be it 5 or 16, we take a PG. When Lowry hits 30-31, that draft pick hits 22-23-24 and takes over.
I would still like to keep Farmar as well. If he'll stay with us. Gives us depth, insurance, etc. (also, let's say we miss on Lowry, still draft a PG and Farmar may become the starter next season, the backup to the backup plan here)

Second is Kobe. And 48 million wasted dollars.
Behind him, I'd love to roll some dice. I mentioned a few days ago, Lance Stephenson. No idea if he likes Indy or not, but I suspect he's earned his money. Not max money, but a large pay day nonetheless. They can play together as SF/SG if need be, or simply stagger their minutes. Lance is only gonna be 24, he is like a lottery pick himself with his experience + upside. Again, I have no idea if he wants us, or likes the East Coast, or rather just stay with Indy, but if he has any interest in us, I want him.
Xavier should be kept as well. Again, insurance, and if we miss out on Lance

Third, Essential's guy, Luol Deng. We all know, Kobe wouldn't accept deal to Chicago if Deng came to us, Kobe obviously loves the kid. He has skill, and is a ginormous upgrade over what Ron was supposed to provide us, he can defend, AND he can dribble, so, yeah......
He is older, 29, and has mileage, but, were we to land Lowry and Lance, take a gander at the defense we'd be starting to acquire. Also, with this day and age, Deng can play the stretch 4 and allow you to use Lowry, Kobe, Lance, and Deng on the court all at once. Just need a rebounding Center to cover the rebounding. (missing Dwight hurts bad right there, he would have anchored that defense like a ************)
Wes has shown me that he provides some use. Absolutely bring him back (cheap) and see what else he can learn/develop.

PF, well, I "hope" to have the funds to pull Kevin Love in 2015. So what I fit in in 2014 would be a temp so to speak. I have no need for Pau anymore, unless he wants to play for under a million dollars which would still mean he's overpaid, but whatever.
As stated, we could use Deng for some minutes here and there, and I would also like to chase Marvin Williams. He'll be 28, he's more a stretch, but he's also exactly what we seem to get lucky with. Former lottery pick, doesn't grasp a role, and then he dons the purple and gold and poof, he remembers how to play basketball. He's not too expensive, and I doubt the Jazz care if he stays or not since they have an entire roster of 25 and unders growing.
Wes can also fill in minutes here, if we miss any, Deng, Williams, whoever we miss out on.

C, Hill and Sacre appear to be holding their own for now. I don't expect that to last long. I suppose it would be nice if they could both stay effective, we'd need to find a new Center to be the actual starter, and maybe, just maybe, we adjust the idea at PG I had, and use the draft pick on a Center, provided we pull Lowry. If we miss on Lowry, and aren't sure on Rondo in 2015, I would prefer the draft pick be used on a PG to match the league wide future of PG's everywhere.
Or, if we are lucky and Dumars screws up, he lets Greg Monroe hit the market. 6-11, will be 24 next year, can play the Center spot, I would make a run at him even as a RFA and see what Dumars has in mind.


Lowry 28- Farmar 28
Kobe 36 -Stephenson 24 -Xavier 23
Deng 29 - Wes 27
Marvin 28 - Hill 26 (Love in 2015)
Monroe 24 - Sacre 25

Still in fold, Meeks at 26, Nick Young at 29, Ryan Kelly at 23 and then Draft Pick 2014, either PG or C depending on how we target free agency. We'd need to keep 1-2 of these pieces to fill out the roster. Then in 2015 try to land K-Love.

In a sense, I keep most of the bench the same, Farmar, X, Wes, Hill, Sacre, and just get 4 new starters out there with old man river 48 million. Nash, Pau, Kaman, Blake, all died, and whatever the hell a Shawne Williams was is no more.



If we pulled Monroe, and 2014 pick is a PG, our core going forward becomes Love, Monroe, 2014 PG, and Stephenson, with maybe X bein a part of that as well as he's only 24-25 by then. With Deng, Kobe, Lowry the elders in town for a couple years. And I suspect we would still have money to pursue more after 2015 as Monroe, Lance, and X aren't huge extension guys, and 2014 pick would be rookie contract for a couple years (ie, cheap) Love is the only max, and it would be in Kobe's final season as a 25Mil anchor. 2016 should be free for spending, like on say Kevin Durant. Would just need to move Deng/Lowry depending on their deals/terms by that time. (And again, that's provided we somehow managed to pull both)


The dream of 2-3 Max deals + Kobe + 2014 Draft pick is gone, so having to start all over, this is my first go round at who/what I would like to see. Since they gave Kobe 48 million dollars, they'd likely piss all over this idea and just write and even bigger check for Pau and Nash at which point I become a homicidal lunatic recently laid off post office worker with a grudge and a fully automatic weapon. But hey....


Anyways, I'm rambling, but I kept the bench mostly in tact sea manup.

 

[freeze]

i was just thinking yesterday how we all thought this was going to be the dark days of the lakers, and how awful this team would be without kb and nash and with paulina running the show. lots said it'd be worse than the kwame smush era. and yet, here we are...ballin on jose'. so happy these guys are fighting like this. and honestly, it feels weird to hear we have the most productive bench in the league, we're top 5 in 3pointers, we're top 5 in blocks, top 10 in D, like what????? how'd that happen? lmaoo. What???? hahaha crazy. with those type of attributes, it's only a matter of time before our record reflects the effort we're bringing. Just think about to 07-08-09, it just took 1 slight tweak to turn us from a 1st round exit team to a finals tragedy, to a world champion. just slight tweaks. I'm liking what I'm seeing.

 

[grandtheftbike]

i like lowry and monroe. not sure if they can afford stephenson. not sure about deng either

 

[TipsyMcStagga]

Vanessa tho...

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[dontsteponmyshoes]

One of the few females that excessive plastic surgery has actually improved , I still think Kobz youngest daughter is Earl Watsons tho.

 

[yeezusdisciple]

i was just thinking yesterday how we all thought this was going to be the dark days of the lakers, and how awful this team would be without kb and nash and with paulina running the show. lots said it'd be worse than the kwame smush era. and yet, here we are...ballin on jose'. so happy these guys are fighting like this. and honestly, it feels weird to hear we have the most productive bench in the league, we're top 5 in 3pointers, we're top 5 in blocks, top 10 in D, like what????? how'd that happen? lmaoo. What???? hahaha crazy. with those type of attributes, it's only a matter of time before our record reflects the effort we're bringing. Just think about to 07-08-09, it just took 1 slight tweak to turn us from a 1st round exit team to a finals tragedy, to a world champion. just slight tweaks. I'm liking what I'm seeing.

exactly. this is whats always in my mind. reloading.

all we need is one big player away from winning the chip.
i remember the year we got pau we werent really in title contention but after we go him it elevated our whole team.

my dream would be to get LMA in a trade, but he seems to like portland.

 

[kal-el-8]

It doesn't look like Detroit is gonna keep Monroe.

If they would probably let him walk during off season, why not try to swing a trade for him ?

What would it take?

He averages 15 and 9.

Only reason I'm thinking swing a trade for him is you get his bird rights, so we can sign Monroe and we still have money to go get someone or wait till the following free agency.


What do you guys think?

 

[pmatic]

I really want to take part in this off-season plans, but there's so much left in the season it's difficult to project what should/will happen in June-July.

 

[yeezusdisciple]

I really want to take part in this off-season plans, but there's so much left in the season it's difficult to project what should/will happen in June-July.

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[BIG LEEMELONE]

The dream of 2-3 Max deals + Kobe + 2014 Draft pick is gone, so having to start all over, this is my first go round at who/what I would like to see.

people really thought this was going to happen? lmfao. anyway it's good to see more and more fans catching on to the reality of building around kobe. this is what I meant when I said this isn't Mitch and Jim's first rebuild/reload. they tried to piece together a team from scratch before but this time it's x/Wes/young instead of kapono and Troy Murphy. to be a fairly young owner/gm combo they have all kinds of experience and have proven that they can learn from their mistakes as well as build on their strengths

 

[essential1]

I don't even care about making scenarios anymore

 

[daddyrabbit251]

I voted 6-10 points because I think he's going to have a nice amount of assist as well... Gonna be fun, 8pts 8ast 4rebs in 18 mins.... Lakers win by 12