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**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins
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At the earliest, I'm thinking the Celtics game.
Want to fix everything, get deep pockets (real deep pockets) and spend on what you can more than others.......front office. No salary cap there.
Presti makes 5 mil. Give him 10.
You don't like Presti? Sign the guy you do like. Double that person's salary.
Get Presti AND Pat Riley. (President + GM)
Or a Riley type, and a Presti type. (Insert whatever names that strike your fancy)
Use your resources that way. More than other teams are willing to spend. Flex on them. (Plus it depletes them to boot)
Those guys can navigate the trades with other teams + lure stars over time. When those moments aren't available, they can draft solid pieces to continue improving the edges of the roster.
Those pieces in place will also bring you a coach that will be there longer than 2 years.
President
GM
Head Coach
All in place over a long term, with our market + name brand would give us the advantages we've lost the last 10-12 years.
Jerry Buss
Jerry West
Pat Riley
Jerry Buss
Mitch
Phil Jackson
Jeanie
Kobe's agent
5-6 diff fired coaches
New owner with true deep pockets to use
President
GM
HC
Presti makes 5 mil. Give him 10.
You don't like Presti? Sign the guy you do like. Double that person's salary.
Get Presti AND Pat Riley. (President + GM)
Or a Riley type, and a Presti type. (Insert whatever names that strike your fancy)
Use your resources that way. More than other teams are willing to spend. Flex on them. (Plus it depletes them to boot)
Those guys can navigate the trades with other teams + lure stars over time. When those moments aren't available, they can draft solid pieces to continue improving the edges of the roster.
Those pieces in place will also bring you a coach that will be there longer than 2 years.
President
GM
Head Coach
All in place over a long term, with our market + name brand would give us the advantages we've lost the last 10-12 years.
Jerry Buss
Jerry West
Pat Riley
Jerry Buss
Mitch
Phil Jackson
Jeanie
Kobe's agent
5-6 diff fired coaches
New owner with true deep pockets to use
President
GM
HC
- Sep 19, 2012
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Seriously
What has Pat Riley done in let’s say the past 10 years to make you say yeah he’s the guy this team needs for a rebuild?
What has Pat Riley done in let’s say the past 10 years to make you say yeah he’s the guy this team needs for a rebuild?
darthska
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Aside from the 2 Finals appearances or?
darthska
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I love it.
Just gotta remember that as fans, we can't actually do any of that.
- Sep 19, 2012
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someone had to make it in the East…But with that same logic we want to get rid of someone who actually oversaw a title season and replace them with one who didn’t but call that an upgrade?
darthska
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This rebuttal is like someone mentioning jordan's 6 rings and then the rebuttal is "With this logic, Horry > Jordan."
But with that same logic we want to get rid of someone who actually oversaw a title season and replace them with one who didn’t but call that an upgrade?
There is no denying that Riley orchestrated the dynamic of the current Heat, 2 Finals runs included.
I very seriously doubt that the collective opinion among Lakers brass is "Everything goes through Jeannie and she definitely knows what she's doing."
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Plan accordingly?
If Bron is likely (hopefully… it’s time) done then what exactly would be the point of paying Reaves $30 plus million as the team begins to enter a rebuild?
Letting a player walk for nothing doesn’t really make but don’t smart teams also move on from supporting players before they get too expensive?
- Sep 5, 2010
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BIG BOB MYERS HOURS?
I'm a full believer in unity driving things to change however.
Fans accepting the mediocrity we're being fed is what "they" want. (CP says, Jeanie loves you)
Us, as a fanbase, demanding change via social media, local radio, not buying tix-merchandise etc drives change.
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Reaves for $30-35M is more than fair. Re-sign him and figure it out later (likely a trade).
darthska
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EYE
DEMAND
CHANGE
!!!!!!
(nothing?)
EYE
DEMAND
CHANGE
!!!!!!
(still nothing?)
EYE
DEMAND
CHANGE
!!!!!!
DEMAND
CHANGE
!!!!!!
(nothing?)
EYE
DEMAND
CHANGE
!!!!!!
(still nothing?)
EYE
DEMAND
CHANGE
!!!!!!
- Sep 19, 2012
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Okay…
So ignoring results what is it about the roster construction that makes you say yeah he’s our guy?
They have Jimmy, who’s now at olds w/ Riley… but was never able to surround him with another star or good enough supporting cast to get it done.
Sounds pretty familiar right?
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I agree that that’s the likely outcome.
darthska
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Riles has done a very good job in the draft and developing guys during this run.
A couple of misfires via free agency and trades though.
A couple of misfires via free agency and trades though.
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Presti been putting on a masterclass:
-Bottom 5 lowest salary cap (available salary cap to use on whatever)
-9-15 FRPs, 21-27 second round picks, 35+ picks in next 7 years (depending how they convey)
-Prioritize defensive minded players (I-Hart, J-dub, Caruso, Cason Wallace, Dort etc.)
We're over here like Gollum in Lord of the rings trying to maximize our few first round/second round picks left
-Bottom 5 lowest salary cap (available salary cap to use on whatever)
-9-15 FRPs, 21-27 second round picks, 35+ picks in next 7 years (depending how they convey)
-Prioritize defensive minded players (I-Hart, J-dub, Caruso, Cason Wallace, Dort etc.)
We're over here like Gollum in Lord of the rings trying to maximize our few first round/second round picks left
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Have we seen a fan base make an owner sell?
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Yeah he’s cool… I don’t want make this all about Riles when he was just one name thrown out there that I used for an example. Bottom line though he’s too old and I doubt he would be interested in a rebuild anyway.
Look whoever is in charge during the rebuild is going to have to make some tough decisions. Just highlighted one where more than likely the team might have to move forward from Reaves to improve the long term outlook of the roster. LOL if you think Pelinka and Jeanie are hated now just wait until that day that they have to phone that one into the league office…
I know things aren’t great now, but they aren’t terrible and in back of my mind I’m kinda trying to appreciate the fact that we have a competitive team now because in a few years the Lakers can easily be at the bottom of the league as they begin the rebuild… and I’m not trying to tell anyone not to be upset because you have that right and that’s totally fine.
I'm not sure. I'd have to look into it.
I'm not saying you, me, and Ska can show up at Staples tomorrow and make Jeanie pass the keys by next weekend.
But if local media is reporting our displeasure, and crowd is booing every night and sales are down, TV ratings down etc, she has to either push everything in to compete again, or sell.
Portland is going thru something similar with Jody Allen. (Her brother died leaving her in charge) this area barely even talks Blazers anymore they're so done with her. She's under pressure. When/will she sell? We'll see.
We don't.
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They’re about to soon be in salary cap hell because they have to pay Shai 4 years/$300 mil plus two rookie max extensions w/ J Dub and Chet.
All of those role players will be gone because they won’t be able to afford them. Of course they’ll need those picks to replace guys like Dort, Caruso, etc BUT if they move those guys and replace them with rooks will they still be good enough to win it all?
I kinda see them having a 1-2 year window (just like Denver had) before the CBA forces them to break up their team. If that’s a master class I guess… they better win it all real soon.
