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Whats the common denominator in the scenarios that I presented?
Is it their skin tone?
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Whats the common denominator in the scenarios that I presented?
You didn't answer the question.Apples to oranges.
Kyrie didn't demonstrate anti-Semitism and if you believe he did, then you're brainwashed. He believes that he himself is Jew. There are people who are masquerading as Jews, just like there are people masquerading as Native American and black. We watched Elizabeth Warren lie about being NAtive American along with Rachael whatever her name is pretending to be black.
At any point when you were typing this out did you it might not make Kyrie look the best?Apples to oranges. Kyrie didn't demonstrate anti-Semitism and if you believe he did, then you're brainwashed. He believes that he himself is Jew. There are people who are masquerading as Jews, just like there are people masquerading as Native American and black. We watched Elizabeth Warren lie about being NAtive American along with Rachael whatever her name is pretending to be black.
One is based off religious doctrine and the other is based off telling lies to garner support politically.You didn't answer the question.
How exactly does that work? Why is Kyrie's belief that he's jew sufficient evidence, but Dolezal's belief that she's black not sufficient?
I'm just trying to find some consistency here, since you have discarded the necessity to prove ancestry.
True. I'd even say that there are Black Jews who originate from that region of Africa.Again…there are a group of bonafide Black Jews that migrated to Ethiopia.
Also true. Stoudemire did it.You CAN convert
Jews historically have been sent across the far reaches of the earth, having communities everywhere. Theyve mixed and mingled witu various sets of people and thus have offspring who are technically Jewish. They may not look like the American stereotypical Jew, however, they are. I've met some from south America etc. Why is it that the ones we happen to see that prey on the black community happen to be of white European ancestry? Now im not saying that all of them of European descent are not Jewish, nor am I saying they are all racist, however, many are and they use the antisemitism excuse to parry all criticism for their wrongs.Is it their skin tone?
Jews historically have been sent across the far reaches of the earth, having communities everywhere. I've met some from south America etc. Why is it that the ones we happen to see that prey on the black community happen to be of white European ancestry? Now im not saying that all of them of European descent are not Jewish, nor am I saying they are all racist, however, many are and they use the antisemitism excuse to parry all criticism for their wrongs.
One of them who had major support within his community and was running for city council made racist derogatory remarks against then Mayor Deblasios wife who is a black woman of hatian descent. And while being interviewed about his commentsz members of his community cheered in support. You walk into their neighborhoods as a black man and see if they dont profile you and have their "police" (who are known to beat people) follow you around until they either ask you what you're doing there, or follow you around until you get the hint to leave.
It's not just them.you talkin bout hasidic jews?
You don't see the issue with giving this example when most American Jewish don't practice Hasidic JudaismJews historically have been sent across the far reaches of the earth, having communities everywhere. Theyve mixed and mingled witu various sets of people and thus have offspring who are technically Jewish. They may not look like the American stereotypical Jew, however, they are. I've met some from south America etc. Why is it that the ones we happen to see that prey on the black community happen to be of white European ancestry? Now im not saying that all of them of European descent are not Jewish, nor am I saying they are all racist, however, many are and they use the antisemitism excuse to parry all criticism for their wrongs.
One of them who had major support within his community and was running for city council made racist derogatory remarks against then Mayor Deblasios wife who is a black woman of hatian descent. And while being interviewed about his commentsz members of his community cheered in support. You walk into their neighborhoods as a black man and see if they dont profile you and have their "police" (who are known to beat people) follow you around until they either ask you what you're doing there, or follow you around until you get the hint to leave.
Who else then?It's not just them.
Refer to my response to NazlewYou don't see the issue with giving this example when most American Jewish don't practice Hasidic Judaism
Who else then?Refer to my response to Nazlew
Reread my previous post where I cleary stated some of them who are of White European ancestry.Who else then?
So you are making a summary of Jewish Americans generally based on the actions/beliefs of "some" people?Reread my previous post where I cleary stated some of them who are of White European ancestry.
No, that is what you're saying. I clearly prefaced my statement by saying some. I also said of white European Ancestry. I didn't say Jewish Americans because that would be broad. There are black American Jews, along with Hispanic American Jews, Asian American Jews etc. Are you suggesting that Jews can only be of White European ancestry?So you are making a summary of Jewish Americans generally based on the actions/beliefs of "some" people
No, I am notNo, that is what you're saying. I clearly prefaced my statement by saying some. I also said of white European Ancestry. I didn't say Jewish Americans because that would be broad. There are black American Jews, along with Hispanic American Jews, Asian American Jews etc. Are you suggesting that Jews can only be of White European ancestry?
In the 2020 survey, roughly nine-in-ten U.S. Jewish adults identify as White non-Hispanic (92%), while 8% identify with all other categories combined. This compares with 94% White non-Hispanic and 6% in all other categories in the 2013 survey. In addition, there are other good reasons to think that the U.S. Jewish population, like the country’s population as a whole, is growing more racially and ethnically diverse over time, including a pattern of rising diversity by age.
Among Jewish adults under age 30, 85% identify as White (non-Hispanic), while 15% identify with all other categories, including 7% Hispanic, 2% Black (non-Hispanic) and 6% other or multiple races. That is much more racial and ethnic diversity than the survey finds among Jews ages 50 and older (97% White non-Hispanic).
Jews historically have been sent across the far reaches of the earth, having communities everywhere. Theyve mixed and mingled witu various sets of people and thus have offspring who are technically Jewish. They may not look like the American stereotypical Jew, however, they are. I've met some from south America etc. Why is it that the ones we happen to see that prey on the black community happen to be of white European ancestry? Now im not saying that all of them of European descent are not Jewish, nor am I saying they are all racist, however, many are and they use the antisemitism excuse to parry all criticism for their wrongs.
One of them who had major support within his community and was running for city council made racist derogatory remarks against then Mayor Deblasios wife who is a black woman of hatian descent. And while being interviewed about his commentsz members of his community cheered in support. You walk into their neighborhoods as a black man and see if they dont profile you and have their "police" (who are known to beat people) follow you around until they either ask you what you're doing there, or follow you around until you get the hint to leave.
LOL, Trump did more for Jews than almost any modern American president of the last 50 years. How is this news?Meanwhile back at the Ranch...
With the midterm elections bearing down upon the country, Republicans suddenly can’t seem to stop talking about, admonishing and even threatening Jews.
This places Jewish Republicans in a bind: Will they side with their party and its deep roster of candidates, who are trafficking in subtle and unsubtle forms of antisemitism? Or will they speak out against bigotry and adhere to a more traditional Jewish-American ethos of placing the safety of the entire community first and foremost?
Right now, it looks like they’re taking the low road of putting up with antisemitism out of partisan commitment, and neglecting to consider how dangerous of a wager they’re making.
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This choice confronts them almost daily. A few days back, Rebbie Mastriano, the wife of Republican Senate candidate Doug Mastriano of Pennsylvania, commented that she and her husband “probably love Israel more than a lot of Jews do.” This past Sunday in Nevada, Jewish Insider broke the story that a former paid staff member of Nevada Republican Senate candidate Adam Laxalt was tweeting about Judaism being a cult. Mark Finchem, a Republican candidate for secretary of state in Arizona, drones on about George Soros and other Jews he considers unpatriotic. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency recently reported that a Texas GOP congressional candidate wrote a 2020 novel about Anne Frank that explores the possibility that the beloved Holocaust martyr was Christ-curious.
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Opinion | The alarming rise in Jewish Republicans tolerating antisemitism
The GOP is trafficking in open antisemitism. Republican Jews who refuse to speak up are making a dangerous wager.www.msnbc.com
I thought "Hilter actually liked black people a lot" would be the worst take coming out of this situation
But saying that we should brutalize black people that get out of line like they are slaves, and that is somehow pro-black idea, is running a close second
Thread. Nuanced thread worth reading.
Speaks on what a few of us have mentioned. (Whiteness / racism)
What does, "How can I be antisemitic when I'm semite?" mean to you?
Nazlew asked if I was referring to Hasidic. I said not only them. White American Jews are not only Hasidic. I also let it be known that the racism is coming from those of European descent. I made certain to statet its not all, but enough of it comes from them where it is visibily noticeable. You can dance around it to down play their racist behavior by trying to mince words, but regardless of what you're going to say and quote, they definitely have their moments when they are racist towards the black man. Whether it be preying on them with predatory loans with hidden fine print to ultimately usurp prime property(as seen throughout NYC), discrimination when it comes to affordable housing(Was on the news where an entire community of them were in uproar because a massive affordable housing development was being built and they did not want any blacks or hispanics) , to physical violence inflicted upon them(theyve beaten several black and Hispanics under false pretenses) , and using racist in nature language towards them(as also seen on the news).No, I am not
I am asking you to be clear
BTW, but most Jewish Americans are of white European descent. Which would mostly make them white.
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Jewish Americans in 2020
What does it mean to be Jewish in America? A new Pew Research Center survey looks into this diverse group.www.pewresearch.org
So if you are just talking about white Jews, you are making judgments about the overwhelming majority of them
This is what you said...
So if you are saying here you were just talking about those of European descent, you are talking about the overwhelming majority of them. Which would be making a general comment
If you are saying you are not talking about all of those of European descent, only "some" of them, then it is a fair question to ask specifically who are the subgroups. Because you only mentioned one subgroup, people asked you for the others because you said there were others.
But you can't have it both ways.