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The biggest news regarding the Ring of Honor Death Before Dishonor show on 9/27 is the lack of interest in the show.

The company is clearly cold, and the show came at a time when WWE was pushing harder than ever and AEW was about to debut on television. ROH doesn’t have anything particularly interesting going on and was very much lost in the shuffle.

The volume of poll responses on the front page speaks volumes. As does the fact that in a 900-seat arena in Las Vegas, Sam’s Town, not only did they have a weak advance, but even with giving away tickets at the end to basically anyone who wanted them, they started the show with maybe 600 in the building and ended up with about 800.

Worse are the PPV numbers. The last ROH show, Best in the World on 6/28 in Baltimore did an estimated 3,500 PPV buys. Death Before Dishonor at press time is estimated at just under 800. The actual decline from the last show was 77.7 percent, and this is not a year-to-year drop but a drop from June to September.

Even more scary is that of those 3,500 buyers of the Best in the World how, only an estimated 115 purchased Death Before Dishonor. Roughly the same number of Death Before Dishonor buyers purchased All Out and roughly 75 purchased Clash of Champions. Now 115 out of 800 is 14.4 percent and 75 of 800 is 9.4 percent, so that is significant to a degree. But the crossover between this show and the last show is notable because even with that big drop, 675 out of 800 purchasers were not fans who bought the previous PPV.
 
At this point I wouldnt be suprised if Impact does end up buying ROH. They rode the wave with bullet club and the bucks and now they have nothing. Marty is clearly gone next month. It was a bad idea to give Taven as much as they did if the reports are true. Either Impact will buy them or they'll disvolve. I would however like to see Jay Leathal and a few others end up in AEW
 
The biggest news regarding the Ring of Honor Death Before Dishonor show on 9/27 is the lack of interest in the show.

The company is clearly cold, and the show came at a time when WWE was pushing harder than ever and AEW was about to debut on television. ROH doesn’t have anything particularly interesting going on and was very much lost in the shuffle.

The volume of poll responses on the front page speaks volumes. As does the fact that in a 900-seat arena in Las Vegas, Sam’s Town, not only did they have a weak advance, but even with giving away tickets at the end to basically anyone who wanted them, they started the show with maybe 600 in the building and ended up with about 800.

Worse are the PPV numbers. The last ROH show, Best in the World on 6/28 in Baltimore did an estimated 3,500 PPV buys. Death Before Dishonor at press time is estimated at just under 800. The actual decline from the last show was 77.7 percent, and this is not a year-to-year drop but a drop from June to September.

Even more scary is that of those 3,500 buyers of the Best in the World how, only an estimated 115 purchased Death Before Dishonor. Roughly the same number of Death Before Dishonor buyers purchased All Out and roughly 75 purchased Clash of Champions. Now 115 out of 800 is 14.4 percent and 75 of 800 is 9.4 percent, so that is significant to a degree. But the crossover between this show and the last show is notable because even with that big drop, 675 out of 800 purchasers were not fans who bought the previous PPV.

My wife was in Vegas at the time and they were playing the show at whatever hotel/casino it was and she was ripping them a new one for how terrible it was. I trained her wrestling eyes well lol

I haven’t seen the show and I have no desire to. The best wrestlers from Los Ingobernables are signed to WWE and NJPW. Rush has a great look, but he’s not the answer. Happy for anyone who can make a career out of this thing, but unfortunately there’s no star power in ROH anymore. I hope they can keep going, but man they should’ve funded All In when they had the opportunity. Hindsight is always 20/20.

Dragon Lee could be the future the hinge themselves to, but all his best matches come from NJPW opponents. I also don’t think his English is that good to carry the company. Idk what the answer is, but they have to money to weather the storm and find one.
 
Is Marty basically a shoo-in for A&W? I feel like his gimmick would be a really good fit in NXT.
 
Is Marty basically a shoo-in for A&W? I feel like his gimmick would be a really good fit in NXT.

i'd believe it more now then a few months ago. They've been refering to Marty on BTE at times and him and the bucks have been having a lot of interaction online vs a few months ago. I'd be surprised at this point if he doesnt go to AEW.
 
Dynamite going head to head with Raw on re-runs right now. Wonder what thise numbers are :lol:

ROH is so bad right now that bot even Vince is interested in purchasing at a deep discount?
Still amazed at how Impact manages to stay afloat let alone being able to purchase another promotion. Weren’t they turning out terrible PPV numbers over the summer too?
 
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