Indians are rushing to apply for jobs in Israel, where the war has driven other migrant workers away and kept Palestinian workers from entering the country.
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Looks like Israeli society is dependent on labor offered by non-Israelis. Prior to the war, up to 150k Palestinians worked in Israel.
You won't tell me that prior to the last few years, this reliance on Palestinian labor, coupled with a legislative presence in the Israeli government (Arab Israeli parties) that did not exist for Black South Africans (the ANC was banned as a political party) could not have been the genesis of a non-violent movement.
I was comparing the struggles and why South African's labor movement had more success with the international solidarity against apartheid with the boycott and sanctions compared to Palestinians in the first Intifada. ANC was banned, but they eventually resorted to violence well into the 80s, and were backed by the Soviets.
Also, it wasn't until nonviolent protests were met with severe repression that Palestinian guerrilla movements began. Palestinians uses non-violence every day and it is part of the Palestinian liberation movement. T
he use of violence and non-violence are rarely mutually exclusive in resistance and liberation struggles. In the case of Israel and Palestine, non-violent expressions of resistance (civil disobedience, the building of barricades and roadblocks, boycotting or non-cooperating with administrative or military officials, labour strikes etc.) dominated at least until the end of the First Intifada and never disappeared even in Gaza governed by Hamas. But, we all know how Israel treats Palestinian non-resistance.
So let's not make Palestinian non-violence invisible, which distorts the complexity of the Palestinian resistance and reduces it to the violent strategies of resistance and guerilla groups.
My comment didn't say anything about blueprints or strategy. All it said was that when it becomes too costly to stay in a place where you're not welcome, you pack up your stuff and leave. How you make someone feel the cost is up to you. However, when 80 years of armed struggle gets you less real allies, less territory, and more incertitude, and when your new friends care more about their own proxy battles than your cause, would you not revisit the strategy?
From what I see, the only thing that can threaten Israel right now and in the near future is their neighbors being more powerful than them. For the time being, this is faaaar from happening with Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan favoring a calmer relationship. As the world becomes more reliant on microelectronic devices, Israel has positioned themselves very well to benefit from it (they have the kind of human capital that attracts chip making companies), their MIC is based on tech, and they don't care who they sell that tech to.
The last few days have shown that Israel, despite what you want to believe about them being a US colonial project, marches to their own beat. They can confidently project power in the busiest trade transit area of the world, and that makes them an attractive ally for any country that vies for the title of superpower. Therefore, I have a hard time seeing the Russians and the Chinese refusing to trade their veto power for the safety of their cargo ships in the region and access to Israeli technologies/know-how if the US were to take a harder stance on Israel.
I get what you're saying, but the regional power has shifted with Israel waning its power where Iran and its proxies and allies have strengthened in last decade.
So, why would it not logically work for Hamas and other groups to play on the blind and weak spots in Israel and its Western alliance, and push through? Many believe different and see Israel as a military and colonial outpost puppeteered by the West/U.S. If U.S. and allies were to stop supplying and supporting Israel, it wouldn't survive.
I think we can all see the U.S. hegemon and Western alliance and their shroud of Empire is cracking and falling.
Pro-Palestinian parties have had representation in the Knesset. The ANC lost its legal status shortly after being created, and didn't regain it until after the end of Apartheid. If anything, Palestinians have had a much bigger political muscle to flex than the ANC, internally and internationally (with the UN: members of the ICJ, special refugee status, support from most UN members).
Black South Africans not only fought the Apartheid regime from overseas, but they had to bring to their side European populations and institutions that were brought up to believe that Africans needed European chaperones because they couldn't handle the responsibilities of self-determination.
While you are pinning it on the Palestinian side, I am sure you can see Israel's strategy is doomed to fail for two reasons: because it is violating international law and because it is ineffective. Israel’s strategy of overwhelming airpower, total decimation of civilian infrastructure and indiscriminate civilian killing, is failing.
I can get into it further, but I want to avoid writing textbook essays here, but it is clear Israel's actions are a sign of desperation from a flailing government.
Will you ever mention that this exile wasn't quiet, and that the PLO brought trouble to those countries? Will you mention what made those former allies prioritize their own internal stability over Palestinian self-determination? Can you imagine if South Africans in exile in Zimbabwe decided to use violence to coopt the foreign policy direction of their host country?
When you say that nobody can tell a people how to fight their struggle, you also have to realize that you can't run away from the consequences of the actions you choose to take.
When you speak about the PLO, funny enough, they took a playbook from Jewish Zionist groups before them, who are known as the fathers of modern day terrorism and operated from outside, which actually succeeded to kick out the Brits and establish Israel.
The PLO’s institutions were designed for a national liberation movement and were deliberately constructed to limit broad-based representation until victory was achieved. Although the situation of the Palestinians and the PLO has changed dramatically since 1968, the organization’s institutional structures and governing by-laws have effectively remained the same. No doubt the PLO has failed Palestinians. So, if Palestinians want a revitalized national movement that is unified and representative, they will need to build it themselves from scratch. Many Palestinians see the PLO/Palestinian Authority as a bunch of sell-outs that accepted defeat to the settler colonialist Apartheid state as only represented themselves and must now go.
The West has always dehumanized Palestinians are inherently violent to justify their occupation and genocide. If we, the Palestinians, do nothing, we are killed, our houses are demolished or taken, and the world looks away, refuses to see or care. If we resist, fight back, then it starts talking about the “two sides”. Does the world expect us to offer ourselves for murder without objection?
And to those who ask how resolution and peace can ever be reached without “dialogue,” the answer is simple: Peace begins when occupation ends.
Also, what I mean by your Western mindset is sometimes you argue as if Israel is not an inherent violent apartheid settler colonial state. You will latch on to the scripts of hyper morality the U.S./Western government and media place on Palestinians. There is no “right” way for Palestinians to act that would stop the bloodshed. Even the 20% of the Israeli population that are Arab and Israeli citizens in so-called "democratic" Israel face legal and de jure segregation because of their ethnicity and are second-class citizens.
