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who would have thought, neil johnston was a better player than kobe
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Nope, you've suggested that opinion was the weakness in the argument, right?Ok well say, the most efficient players of all time is the title. That is not what the topic title mentions.
But you do know by going that route, you don't take into consideration rings, playoff success, and influence?
What are you using? PER? Efficieny rating? What?
I am not changing anything, YOU are changing the argument to Most Efficient.
Again I ask you, what metric are you using?How efficient is Kobe Bryant?
Your choice.Again I ask you, what metric are you using?
You found it.So this is what should be used to determine the all time rankings? That clear and cut right?
NBA & ABA Career Leaders and Records for Player Efficiency Rating - www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html
I understand that, but again, who argued that Kobe was Top 10/5 all time in efficiency?You found it.
Cool.
Kobe is not top five there either.
Are you serious?I understand that, but again, who argued that Kobe was Top 10/5 all time in efficiency?
Nobody. So don't "cool" me as if you made a point that somebody was disagreeing with.
You found it.So this is what should be used to determine the all time rankings? That clear and cut right?
NBA
Cool.
Kobe is not top five there either.
Ok I don't know if you are being serious now or not.Are you serious?
Okay, since you don't want well researched arguments, fact backed opinion, and you surely don't want to use facts and figures, statistical data, how would you draw your conclusion on who are the top ten players in NBA history?
Lies and fallacy? Rumor and innuendo?
1. | Michael Jordan* | 27.91 |
2. | LeBron James | 27.25 |
3. | Shaquille O'Neal | 26.43 |
4. | David Robinson* | 26.18 |
5. | Wilt Chamberlain* | 26.13 |
6. | Dwyane Wade | 25.63 |
7. | Chris Paul | 25.45 |
8. | Bob Pettit* | 25.35 |
9. | Tim Duncan | 24.78 |
10. | Neil Johnston* | 24.69 |
11. | Charles Barkley* | 24.63 |
12. | Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* | 24.58 |
13. | Magic Johnson* | 24.11 |
14. | Karl Malone* | 23.90 |
15. | Dirk Nowitzki | 23.63 |
16. | Hakeem Olajuwon* | 23.59 |
17. | Larry Bird* | 23.50 |
18. | Kobe Bryant | 23.46 |
19. | Kevin Garnett | 23.28 |
20. | Oscar Robertson* | 23.17 |
21. | Yao Ming | 23.02 |
22. | Jerry West* | 22.90 |
23. | Kevin Durant | 22.82 |
sorry, i came late into this discussion. Are you guys talking about kobe's efficiency? I'm slightly confused. Or is one of you arguing his lack of effiency? Just clarifying.
I'm fine with the measurement of such data, as it was a huge part of my personal top ten all time choices.So LS, answer this.
PER, is an "efficient" means of ranking the all time greats in the NBA?
So you are fine with THAT list being the final list of all time NBA Greats?
To me, from what EYE have experienced, I would say Kobe is SG#2.
Can only speak on what I know of. I never saw West.
For me, he winds up around fifteen, but mine are done in chronological order.thanks for the heads up man I appreciate it.
DC, Longstroke, where do you guys rank Kobe? That is if you have a list?