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I have a bushmaster AR-15 it is used for sporting, but in recent mass shootings most suspects were using high power rifles with large ammo capacity. Yes a scoped 308 on a leupold scope is an accurate and deadly firearm in the hands of a trained shooter. Yet you cannot inflict the type of damage at close to medium range that you can with a high capacity AR, AK, or other make high powered rifle carrying a 30 round clip vs a 5-6 round clip. The mass shooters have mostly been untrained but using high ammo capacity high powered weapons and or high capacity semi automatic pistols.Plenty of people shoot deer with AR15's. They're accurate, lightweight, modular and reliable.
You know what else is a combat rifle this.
It's also more accurate and fires a bigger round too. But they don't look scary so no one wants to ban them.
This also used to be a combat rifle.
Once again very accurate and fires a bigger round. It's also a semi auto too. Once again no one wants to ban these.
From reading this, I can tell a lot of you don't know the process of legally owning a firearm. The mental illness factor has already be implemented in the background search to purchase a firearm or even to obtain a license to carry. If you have a felony, that's it, no legal firearm for you period.
There is no surefire way to really amend gun laws. You ban them then the only ppl who would generally have them would be the ppl who you didn't want having them in the first place. Before DC changed their gun laws by reversing the ban, there was an article where a woman's home was broken into and she was terrified, officer told her to get a gun, though he knew it was illegal.
You can't stop stupid ppl from doing stupid things. I'm sure ElderWatson, Storm, and the others regulars from the the Gun Thread would agree. We're all responsible gun owners, we don't go out shootin ppl bc we have guns and we can.
We increase the price of ammo, who will be able to afford it forreal? The affluent, government, drug dealers who have the excess cash.
From reading this, I can tell a lot of you don't know the process of legally owning a firearm. The mental illness factor has already be implemented in the background search to purchase a firearm or even to obtain a license to carry. If you have a felony, that's it, no legal firearm for you period.
There is no surefire way to really amend gun laws. You ban them then the only ppl who would generally have them would be the ppl who you didn't want having them in the first place. Before DC changed their gun laws by reversing the ban, there was an article where a woman's home was broken into and she was terrified, officer told her to get a gun, though he knew it was illegal.
You can't stop stupid ppl from doing stupid things. I'm sure ElderWatson, Storm, and the others regulars from the the Gun Thread would agree. We're all responsible gun owners, we don't go out shootin ppl bc we have guns and we can.
We increase the price of ammo, who will be able to afford it forreal? The affluent, government, drug dealers who have the excess cash.
You appear to have some critical thinking skills. If an officer tells a woman to buy a gun knowing it is illegal, what does that say about our current gun controls? Not gun law, gun control. Gun laws are only a part of gun control, control includes the entire process of obtaining and possessing guns.
But you can buy a gun at a gun show without a background check. That is the big loop hole that people are missing. .
TrueI'd like it to be like that in ALL states..Its already like that in most states. Except city states like New York and Illinois unless you have special permissions.I'd actually make the gun laws more lenient, aslong as you're 18 years old with a valid ID
Guns don't kill people, people kill people
Combat weapons? You can but those guns ANYWHERE, no different from any home protection/shooting range/hunting type of weaponJust keep combat weapons out of the hands of civilians like the one used in Newtown.
But you can buy a gun at a gun show without a background check. That is the big loop hole that people are missing. .
Since when? Even gun shows get on the horn to run background checks. My homie purchased a gun from a gunshow and it took about an hour for the background check to comeback w/ the line and what not.
Horrible argument. Do you know how much warfare has changed since the CIVIL WAR? People didn't just die because of gunshot wounds, they died because they had to amputate limbs in basically all instances.Single shot muskets were used in the bloodiest battles of the Civil Wars.
German and Russian troops fought in all along the eastern front with what basically amounted to hunting rifles.
Your "combat weapons" point makes no real sense.
its not though, and you da right to bear arms got as much clout as freedom of expression and freedom of religion.Horrible argument. Do you know how much warfare has changed since the CIVIL WAR? People didn't just die because of gunshot wounds, they died because they had to amputate limbs in basically all instances.Single shot muskets were used in the bloodiest battles of the Civil Wars.
German and Russian troops fought in all along the eastern front with what basically amounted to hunting rifles.
Your "combat weapons" point makes no real sense.
I don't see why you dudes are so resistant to more stringent gun laws. If you can prove that you're responsible enough to own a gun (classes, tests, etc), then I don't have a problem with owning one. If you're so upset about this then you probably shouldn't be owning a gun. I saw some dude in the other thread post something like, "Just copped an Uzi. FL gun laws FTW.) I don't want you to have a gun. Especially not one like an Uzi, where it's more likely you're gonna hit some kid than your target.
Just because it may or may not be written in the Second Amendment doesn't make it some inalienable right. Sorry. Thing's have changed since the 1700s and so should laws.
Real good point.The moment they take away our right to bear arms it's a rap for our other rights.
You get the stupidest analogy of the year with that reply.Simply asking for a ban on weapons wouldn't work. Obesity is a huge problem and heart disease kill people in this country waaayyyy more than guns do, but you don't hear us asking for a ban on forks and knives to stop people from eating.
I'm guessing you won't tell me why?You get the stupidest analogy of the year with that reply.
You don't knives and forks you ban unhealthy foods. Look at NY the politicians banned big sodas and they are just getting started.I'm guessing you won't tell me why?
since when did me or you being fat kill anyone but ourselves?I'm guessing you won't tell me why?