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How good is Monta Ellis really?
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He scores most of his points in the first half from the games that I have seen then fizzles out in the second half. Once he develops that killer instinct and is able to hit those clutch shots when it matters. Then he will be great, oh and also once the warriors learn how to play defense in the forth quarter I expect this team to be in the playoffs.
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He scores most of his points in the first half from the games that I have seen then fizzles out in the second half. Once he develops that killer instinct and is able to hit those clutch shots when it matters. Then he will be great, oh and also once the warriors learn how to play defense in the forth quarter I expect this team to be in the playoffs.
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I was one to talk about his horrible defense, but he has taken big steps in that area. When his mind is right, he can be a pretty good defender. Top 20 player? Maybe not, but he's definitely one of the best scorers in the league. And are we really going to bring up the record of his team? Are you guys even looking at the talent he has around him? Are we forgetting that he won most improved player on a playoff team? Put talent around him and he can be good. I'm not saying he's a 1st or maybe even a 2nd option cause he's not, but he'll put up numbers on a good team.
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I was one to talk about his horrible defense, but he has taken big steps in that area. When his mind is right, he can be a pretty good defender. Top 20 player? Maybe not, but he's definitely one of the best scorers in the league. And are we really going to bring up the record of his team? Are you guys even looking at the talent he has around him? Are we forgetting that he won most improved player on a playoff team? Put talent around him and he can be good. I'm not saying he's a 1st or maybe even a 2nd option cause he's not, but he'll put up numbers on a good team.
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It would be hilarious to see him play on a halfcourt team.
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It would be hilarious to see him play on a halfcourt team.
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If I did that, I'd see plenty of teams playing defense (Heat, Bulls, Celtics, Hornets, Spurs, Bucks, Magic). Even the Lakers, Mavs, Blazers, Hawks and Grizzles have played good defense. That's 40% of the league bringing it on D.
Just because the Warriors (and Ellis) suck on defense doesn't mean that "80% of the league" also does.
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If I did that, I'd see plenty of teams playing defense (Heat, Bulls, Celtics, Hornets, Spurs, Bucks, Magic). Even the Lakers, Mavs, Blazers, Hawks and Grizzles have played good defense. That's 40% of the league bringing it on D.
Just because the Warriors (and Ellis) suck on defense doesn't mean that "80% of the league" also does.
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80% of you have never seen more than one Warriors game this season.
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80% of you have never seen more than one Warriors game this season.
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I hope this isn't to suggest your team has played good defense this season.
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I hope this isn't to suggest your team has played good defense this season.
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Fringe all-star at best. He's a decent scorer, and has improved this season from last. Given, that's not saying much, considering the Warriors were around 11 points per 100 possessions better without him on the floor last season.
Still, his numbers are inflated by pace, and the fact that he leads the league in minutes per. Also, he plays atrocious defense, as evidenced by his differential last season, but that seems to be a staple of Warrior basketball.
Still, his numbers are inflated by pace, and the fact that he leads the league in minutes per. Also, he plays atrocious defense, as evidenced by his differential last season, but that seems to be a staple of Warrior basketball.
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Fringe all-star at best. He's a decent scorer, and has improved this season from last. Given, that's not saying much, considering the Warriors were around 11 points per 100 possessions better without him on the floor last season.
Still, his numbers are inflated by pace, and the fact that he leads the league in minutes per. Also, he plays atrocious defense, as evidenced by his differential last season, but that seems to be a staple of Warrior basketball.
Still, his numbers are inflated by pace, and the fact that he leads the league in minutes per. Also, he plays atrocious defense, as evidenced by his differential last season, but that seems to be a staple of Warrior basketball.
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He might be the best all-around scorer in the league right now. His midrange is #+!%+%+ MONEY at all times, he's really worked on that. On top of that he's one of the most explosive players in the league. The only problem is that half his team is so garbage or average that as the team leader he needs to work them in and give them more confidence. A lot of the times you can see Monta is basically like "%@%@ this gimme the rock," and then his teammates will just stand around and watch him.
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He might be the best all-around scorer in the league right now. His midrange is #+!%+%+ MONEY at all times, he's really worked on that. On top of that he's one of the most explosive players in the league. The only problem is that half his team is so garbage or average that as the team leader he needs to work them in and give them more confidence. A lot of the times you can see Monta is basically like "%@%@ this gimme the rock," and then his teammates will just stand around and watch him.
Turn on your television.
In 2007 their half court set was basically a high pick and roll ending with a top of the key jumper. That was damn near automatic for him. Then when they were mismatched they'd free hin off the ball with picks and he'd get a nice 15-18 foot jumper.He's playing this year like most, if not all of us, expected for the year he broke his foot.I'm easily one Monta's bigger critics, but even I think he could succeed within a half court set because he's shown he can. He's not a 1 dimensional scorer who only gets points at the rim.
Turn on your television.
In 2007 their half court set was basically a high pick and roll ending with a top of the key jumper. That was damn near automatic for him. Then when they were mismatched they'd free hin off the ball with picks and he'd get a nice 15-18 foot jumper.He's playing this year like most, if not all of us, expected for the year he broke his foot.I'm easily one Monta's bigger critics, but even I think he could succeed within a half court set because he's shown he can. He's not a 1 dimensional scorer who only gets points at the rim.
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