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Let's say you're eating at BLT Steak or something along those lines. Dinner for two can EASILY run north of $150. You aren't tipping?
How do you non-tippers handle gratuity or eating w/ a large group?
Let's say you're eating at BLT Steak or something along those lines. Dinner for two can EASILY run north of $150. You aren't tipping?
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Actually by law, the establishment must make up the difference between minimum wage and servers wage if the tips did not add up. Your argument is flawed. Also, anyone can eat anywhere since there is no penalty for not tipping.
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I already know what I'm getting someone for Secret Santa if they are one of these cheap non-tippers.......
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...Yeah if you choose to eat at a 5-Star restaurant that will run you hundreds you're probably not broke, you're right, but how many dudes in here spending money like that?
I'm talking about going to a regular diner where you're Salisbury steak will cost you $14.95 and you only gonna shell out an additional $4 for tip.
CHEAP.
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So again outside of doing becuase of some sort of social norm amongst certain ppl their really is no justification. And how does this relate to priorities exactly. If you want to get real... why even eat there at all when you could spend that extra money on ppl who have nothing to eat at all. Or are you saying that you are so detacted from real problems issues etc... of the world that you so called seem as if your doing the world some good and giving back by tipping? Like this is your so call way of giving back.Are you listening to what YOU'RE saying though? If youre eating at a 5 star restaurant and don't plan on tipping then you need to get your priorities in check. People these days my goodness, that couple of dollars for tip really cutting into your bank account huh
And yet i still havent heard anyone say how are they more deserving then others and how their servitude trumps others. If thats the angle many of you are going at. The they do alot of work and are underpaid for it. Cause ive listed several occupation who fit that mold and work/servititude is far more important than that of a host/hostess, bartender etc...
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for all the non-tippers out there . . . do you have any friends or family who work in the service industry (wait tables, bar tend, housekeeping, postal worker, bell hop, etc)?
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even in that instance... 15-20 dollars is still more then 5 bucks... So based off simple math... If you have 20-30 bucks, you would have 5. Its just one o those things kinda how ppl use blanket statements and irrational responses to justify doing something simply because others do it ala... suits and ties in the workforce, opening doors for just women, etc.... You do it cause you were raised/conditioned to do so.... But to say ppl who dont follow the same social norms/conditioning as you are cheap/vile etc... well
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Again outside of social norms/conditioning why are YOU tipping? For every reason you guys are saying i named several other occupations etc... that your reasoning would apply yet ppl dont tip them so............
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I tip for good service. Period.
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QUESTION.
WHEN PICKING UP A PHONE-IN ORDER AT A RESTURANT, DO YOU GUYS LEAVE A TIP?
I TIP WELL WHEN I DINE-IN BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME TIPPING ON PHONE ORDERS WHEN I HAD TO CALL IN THE ORDER THEN GET UP AND DRIVE TO PICK UP THE ORDER....
AT LEAST WHEN I DINE-IN, I WAS SERVED BY A WAITER WHO I TIP BUT WHEN ON A CARRY OUT, THE ONLY PERSON I SEE IS THE CASHIER.
WHEN PICKING UP A PHONE-IN ORDER AT A RESTURANT, DO YOU GUYS LEAVE A TIP?
I TIP WELL WHEN I DINE-IN BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME TIPPING ON PHONE ORDERS WHEN I HAD TO CALL IN THE ORDER THEN GET UP AND DRIVE TO PICK UP THE ORDER....
AT LEAST WHEN I DINE-IN, I WAS SERVED BY A WAITER WHO I TIP BUT WHEN ON A CARRY OUT, THE ONLY PERSON I SEE IS THE CASHIER.
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HOW IS THAT CHEAP? THAT'S 27% OF THE BILL. UNLESS I MIS-UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING...
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tip to go pick up my food?
part of the game is that?
and if one of you try to defend that, then me and memph will find you and slap you.
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Only if I alter my order from what's listed on the menu.
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Regarding tipping thread 27373737373
On the social norm part it is what it is.
Tipping is optional but little things like that are a reflection of you in a society where tipping is the norm. If you don't care about being known as that cheap stingy guy amongst your peers then don't tip, but don't act suprised when your friends "forget" to invite you to certain places. Little things like tipping do paint a picture and perception of you that people see. Again if you don't care that your friends and peers think your cheap then for tip but most likely that's what their thinking about you
I have friends that won't tip for various reasons. I don't go to sit down restaurants with them just because its not worth the hassle.
Another thing, providing service that's above and beyond is optional also. If a server has a regular customer that's a non tipper he's not doing anything wrong by offering the bare minimum service on his job requirements, its unreasonable to expect him to go above and beyond as opposed to a customer that's a regular and tips well. It's very likely the server would go above and beyond for them to make their dining expierence better.
On the social norm part it is what it is.
Tipping is optional but little things like that are a reflection of you in a society where tipping is the norm. If you don't care about being known as that cheap stingy guy amongst your peers then don't tip, but don't act suprised when your friends "forget" to invite you to certain places. Little things like tipping do paint a picture and perception of you that people see. Again if you don't care that your friends and peers think your cheap then for tip but most likely that's what their thinking about you
I have friends that won't tip for various reasons. I don't go to sit down restaurants with them just because its not worth the hassle.
Another thing, providing service that's above and beyond is optional also. If a server has a regular customer that's a non tipper he's not doing anything wrong by offering the bare minimum service on his job requirements, its unreasonable to expect him to go above and beyond as opposed to a customer that's a regular and tips well. It's very likely the server would go above and beyond for them to make their dining expierence better.
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So teachers dont provide good service? garbagepersons, mailpersons, service members, how bout the ppl at sporting events, movie theatres, customer service at walmart etc.... I mean it seems as ppl are saying that good service/low pay deserves a bonus.... but if this is the case why is it solely majority ppl in the restaurant industry and not socially norm amongst all forms of servitude, who are vastly underpaid? I mean i get what yall are saying but i just dont get why is it as a whole society focus on one industry, one particular job field and not others. Like why those workers specifically get more love then others in similiar situations?
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Dam alright then
even if I change it to TWO DOLLARS, some of you guys still won't tip?EDIT: And to answer your other question I don't tip at phone-pick up either.
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Butt are they really your friends.... if a person is going to base their perception of you and who you are as an overall person, based on how you tip or if you tip at all, thats a very fickle person and really isnt a friend at all, really would be a associate at best. And if you go out in the world esp... depending on class/race etc... and think your going to appease society as a whole etc... your fighting a everylasting losing battle period.
its ppl, and we all know its true, that feel jewish and blacks are cheap, so regardless if you tip, tip well, or dont tip at all still will hold that stigma about you solely on stereotypes. So i mean in the grand scheme of things i still dont see your point. And as far as going above and beyond what their job description is, that really doesnt effect the food etc... thats moreso a experience/emotional aspect of eating out, ala the food was subpar but the service was great therefore it was good. Some ppl believe it or not go out to eat simply because they enjoy the food. Others becuase of the experience etc...
End of the day to me and im sure others, if the cute girl, flirts with you or be extra nice, isnt somehow going to make the reason you went there being, hungry and enjoying the food tast any better or somehow fill the void of being hungry. The cute chick that repeatedly comes by and ask do you need your drink refilled, doesnt change the taste quality of the drink. If it does for you then thats great, dont really see how, but if you emotionally feel it does you have a right to think that. I could even see if you guys tipped the cooks, cause essentially they are more important to the meal, then the person you escorts you to the seat.
but to say oh you deserve extra pay to 1. do something that YOU as a individual chose to do, knowing the terms, 2. to do something that has no bearings/effects on the reason i chose to eat there, ala the taste/quality of food. 3. becuase lets be honest, you find the chick cute etc... and lowkey simping, (cause be forreal with yourselves you guys will/do tip the cute girl better then you would the dude) They somehow deserve and are entitled to there pay 2 and 3 times fold... some ppl just arent going to agree to it, and see it the same way as you do.
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Random question, if all restaurants were to charge a mandatory gratuity do you think it would have a big effect on sales?
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JUST WONDERING BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS THAT TIP ON CARRYOUT AND IT BAFFLES ME.
EDIT: ALSO, WHEN LEAVING A TIP ON A CARRYOUT ORDER. WHO ACTUALLY RECEIVES THE TIP?
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How is it being fickle? Just because someone is my friend doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they do or their views.
My cheap friends know I feel that way about them because I have no problem letting them know and its not just off of restaurants its other things I've seen from them. They are who they are though and at this age their not going to change their perception so rather then beat a dead horse I realize their not going to tip when we go eat and I don't feel like covering it do them so ill just go eat without them and its no hard feelings on my part
My cheap friends know I feel that way about them because I have no problem letting them know and its not just off of restaurants its other things I've seen from them. They are who they are though and at this age their not going to change their perception so rather then beat a dead horse I realize their not going to tip when we go eat and I don't feel like covering it do them so ill just go eat without them and its no hard feelings on my part
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Nah no tipping on carryout.
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INCREASE IN PRICE ALMOST ALWAYS RESULTS IN A DECREASE IN SALES....
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The part when you said some ppl are going to view you, or wont associate with you, etc... because of no tipping/tipping poorly. And if they are your so called friends, why do you care what they do, if you care etc... for them and accept them for who they are, then why not go out with them to eat. I could see if you said they dine and dash, because you would get stuck with the bill, or i could see if you guys have different appetites and places you like to eat they dont because they dont like the food, but to say ok we all want chinese, we all ike this restaurant, but i refuse to go out etc... with you as a friend because you wont tip is fickle. Again i could see if they dont like the place, or because they act beligerent etc... or just str8 up act rude disrespectful to the ppl or establishment. But your basically saying we cant eat together spend time enjoying a common meal unless you pay a certain percentage of the overall cost of a meal, does come across as fickle and kinda shady. And as far as covering for them that is your choice, again you are saying i dont want to be around someone who doesnt view/see things as i do.
How bout instead of worrying about impressing strangers, or seeking approval of strangers, enjoy the company of your friends, and a good meal. It almost sounds as if you are saying im not going to eat to enjoy company with friends and the food etc... but rather to prove a point, seek approval, and make sure i fill some sort of status qou social norm, and if a person doesnt follow suit with that then, basically kick rocks.
