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Come on now everyone knows ED docs dont do physicals exams lol.
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Just wanted to add that if doctors think the profession is miserable now just wait until modern tech gets a hold.
Stock brokers used to be very important as well and made tons of money. Then came electronic trading and the once famed stock broker is akin to a dinosaur.
Same thing will happen with medicine (especially as it concerns non surgical specialties), it's just a matter of time. Stock brokers didn't have such a powerful lobby behind them so they were hit pretty fast.
Come on now everyone knows ED docs dont do physicals exams lol.
so who wants to invest in this NT surgicenter??
Just wanted to add that if doctors think the profession is miserable now just wait until modern tech gets a hold.
Stock brokers used to be very important as well and made tons of money. Then came electronic trading and the once famed stock broker is akin to a dinosaur.
Same thing will happen with medicine (especially as it concerns non surgical specialties), it's just a matter of time. Stock brokers didn't have such a powerful lobby behind them so they were hit pretty fast.
Just wanted to add that if doctors think the profession is miserable now just wait until modern tech gets a hold.
Stock brokers used to be very important as well and made tons of money. Then came electronic trading and the once famed stock broker is akin to a dinosaur.
Same thing will happen with medicine (especially as it concerns non surgical specialties), it's just a matter of time. Stock brokers didn't have such a powerful lobby behind them so they were hit pretty fast.
idk
it may sound corny but the human connection is very important in medicine. You can't have the same relationship with a machine/computer that you could with your doctor.
patients want to have that with the person healing them, it's not the same as trading some stocks.
How do you doctors feel about overseas MD's - specifically those who went to the Carrib or Philippines for med school because they couldn't get in to US? Are they looked down upon in the community?
Also, have you encountered such MD's during your residency? Did they or do you advise against overseas schooling in terms of the journey back into the US.
I just don't see the equivalence because health is so far removed from trading.
There are SO many variables with people, what machine is going to replace the clinical judgement of a physician? People are insanely complex, some things you can't codify.
It will help though, it'll make doctors better.
Same arguments were made about other field that succumbed to a high degree of automation.At the end of the day, trading stocks, finances, etc, can be broken down into equations, algorithms, numbers.
Medicine? Not so much.
What kind of work do you think has the potential to be automated?I just don't see the equivalence because health is so far removed from trading.
There are SO many variables with people, what machine is going to replace the clinical judgement of a physician? People are insanely complex, some things you can't codify.
It will help though, it'll make doctors better.Same arguments were made about other field that succumbed to a high degree of automation.At the end of the day, trading stocks, finances, etc, can be broken down into equations, algorithms, numbers.
Medicine? Not so much.
" You can't trust robots to build cars, humans lives are at stake. What of the robot misses a weld...."
" You can't trust networks of computers with people's pension funds. Trading is all about trust! How can you trust a computer?"
The ONLY reason that we haven't seen technology steamroll medicine like it has other sectors is because the medical lobby is one of the most powerful in the US ( medicine in the US operates as a closed economy). You don't see it on the front pages but the medical lobby has been fighting tooth and nail to keep automation out of medicine as much as possible. It's also a major reason why some foreign nations seem to be ahead of us when it comes to the implementation of medical tech.
The vast majority of work that physicians do is ROUTINE and anything that is routine can be automated ( see driving, flying, assembling, etc.) It's just a matter of time, cost differentials, and regulations.
I'm not saying that it will happen tomorrow or in 5 years but definitely in our lifetime.
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How do you doctors feel about overseas MD's - specifically those who went to the Carrib or Philippines for med school because they couldn't get in to US? Are they looked down upon in the community?
Also, have you encountered such MD's during your residency? Did they or do you advise against overseas schooling in terms of the journey back into the US.
just curious of your background in the medical field. I would love to hear all this great automated products you know about.
It seems like Wawawowewawawawowoaweawawa actually thinks you can just punch your symptoms into a smartphone app and have it properly diagnose you or refer you to the specialist that you need to see. What he fails to realize is how many variables you have to take into consideration with the human body. There's a reason that physicians (even primary care physicians) are in school for such a long time. Clincal judgment is absolutely necessary in healthcare. This isn't the stock market, this isn't manufacturing, and this isn't computer science/engineering. Anyone that's ever googled/WebMD'ed their symptoms during the course of an illness should know how true this is. UTVOL23 brought up some great points above, and that's without mentioning concepts like referred pain and psychosomatic illness. Empowering laymen with the tools to self-diagnose and come to their own conclusions about complex medical/biological issues is a recipe for disaster. Has the anti-vaccination movement taught us nothing?What routine work are you talking about wawwooo? You mean stuff like charting and billing docs would love to get rid of all the paperwork. What robot do you see coming down the line that will do a complete physical and neurologic exam. What about a robot to do simple surgeries or simple procedures but it assumes normal anatomy and hits an aberrant artery. What about doing a lung biopsyin someone with copd and they get a pneumothorax and they need an emergent chest tube or the will have cardiovascular collapse will the robot then be able to grab a chest tube and throw one in in minutes?
just curious of your background in the medical field. I would love to hear all this great automated products you know about.