Hide Ya Wives, Hide Ya Kids: Worldwide Coronavirus Pandemic!

[Blake P]

Any news about boosters and can we mix match these bad boys ?

Still no official word on boosters, but inside scoop says the first groups to be officially approved for boosters will be elderly and immune compromised (especially solid organ transplants in whom vaccines have shown less immune response). It will initially just be a 3rd dose of the same OG vaccine. I've heard that boosters have already quietly been administered to some solid organ transplants who have shown limited to no immune response, but this has been specifically directed by their physicians AFAIK. I've been trying to persuade one of my co-workers who received a kidney transplant to discuss the possibility with his doctors. He seems to think I'm just being paranoid so far though.

 

[whywesteppin]

What’s good with j&j? I never hear about it anymore, WILL I DIE???

 

[mplsdunk]

dr faucci got me again. ☹

 

[toooldforthis]

San Francisco to require vaccine proof at indoor venues

San Francisco will require proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 at indoor restaurants, bars, gyms and entertainment venues.

apnews.com

Since this is the US, I suspect this will lead to violence.

 

[Blake P]

San Francisco to require vaccine proof at indoor venues

San Francisco will require proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 at indoor restaurants, bars, gyms and entertainment venues.

apnews.com

Since this is the US, I suspect this will lead to violence.

With vaccine mandates snowballing, we really need to come up with an official vaccine passport system. As usual, it's ready, fire, aim.

 

[RustyShackleford]

#ModernaGang putting numbers on the board! Latest study out of Qatar shows effectiveness against infection:
Moderna 84.8%
Pfizer 53.5%

BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness against the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant in Qatar

The SARS-CoV-2 Delta (B.1.617.2) variant of concern is expanding globally. Here, we assess real-world effectiveness of the BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) and mRNA-1273 (Moderna) vaccines against this variant in the population of Qatar, using a matched test-negative, case- control study design...

www.medrxiv.org

A recent Mayo Clinic study showed similar figures:
Moderna 76%
Pfizer 42%

Comparison of two highly-effective mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 during periods of Alpha and Delta variant prevalence

Although clinical trials and real-world studies have affirmed the effectiveness and safety of the FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccines, reports of breakthrough infections and persistent emergence of new variants highlight the need to vigilantly monitor the effectiveness of these vaccines. Here we...

www.medrxiv.org

Mayo Clinic: COVID Breakthrough Risk May Be Much Lower With Moderna Than Pfizer

The pre-print study suggested the Pfizer vaccine was 34 points less effective in preventing infection last month, at least in one state, NBC New York reports.

www.cnbc.com

As someone that got Pfizer, when the booster shots come around Imma be like...

 

[Fozz]

Damn that’s worth it.

And you get a free hat.

 

[biggie62]

What’s good with j&j? I never hear about it anymore, WILL I DIE???

Like Chris rock said in no sex in the champagne room, you’re going to die twice

 

[frankmatthews]

This doesn't concern anyone? Everything is "safe" til it isnt.

 

[IATT]

The Recount on Instagram: "Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL): "People are gonna look back and they say, 'You know what, Florida stood by its kids.'" (Florida currently has the highest rate of children hospitalized with COVID in the U.S.)"

2,779 likes, 793 comments - therecount on August 11, 2021: "Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL): "People are gonna look back and they say, 'You know what, Florida stood by its kids.'" (Florida currently has the highest rate of children hospitalized with COVID in the U.S.)".

www.instagram.com

 

[Blake P]

This doesn't concern anyone? Everything is "safe" til it isnt.

I'd like to think none of us are naive enough to think putting a foreign substance into our bodies will have no side effects, but when you're presented with 2 options and one of them includes a KNOWN list of more serious adverse effects, the majority of sane people will choose the other one that keeps them alive long enough to find out if they made the right choice.

 

[Comparison Ford]

But why focus on reality when we can get bogged down over baseless hypotheticals?

Doesn't that seem like a much smarter way to go about this?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Kinda reassuring that products are monitored for potential safety/health concerns, and people are made aware of them when they come up.

 

[whywesteppin]

This doesn't concern anyone? Everything is "safe" til it isnt.

To me it's reassuring that these things are being investigated.

All of life comes with unknowns and risks.

edit: Rusty beat me to it.

 

[frankmatthews]

I'd like to think none of us are naive enough to think putting a foreign substance into our bodies will have no side effects, but when you're presented with 2 options and one of them includes a KNOWN list of more serious adverse effects, the majority of sane people will choose the other one that keeps them alive long enough to find out if they made the right choice.

How does one compare a known to an unknown? And implying someone would be insane for being indecisive in that situation seems like a reach. Realistically, not taking the vaccine doesn't guarantee you will get covid symptoms. Just seems like a risk/reward, cost-benefit analysis which I guess is pretty subjective.

 

[Comparison Ford]

Yeah "insane" would be categorizing it incorrectly.

"Dumb" is much more fitting.

 

[IATT]

 

[crazy ebw]

It's on the parents at this point, I don't want to hear anything else.

 

[Blake P]

How does one compare a known to an unknown? And implying someone would be insane for being indecisive in that situation seems like a reach. Realistically, not taking the vaccine doesn't guarantee you will get covid symptoms. Just seems like a risk/reward, cost-benefit analysis which I guess is pretty subjective.

KNOWN: the vaccines are highly effective against severe disease, hospitalization, and death
UNKNOWN: the vaccines may not prove highly effective against future variants
KNOWN: the vaccines have been tested in humans for approximately 17 months with relatively few serious adverse reactions - rare cases of CVST and Guillian-Barre syndrome after J&J, myocarditis/pericarditis after mRNA, anaphylactic reactions after mRNA, etc
UNKNOWN: nearly all serious adverse reactions are detected within the first few months after vaccine administration, but nobody can tell the future

For the record, I never said "insane" but call it what you will. You are correct that not taking the vaccine doesn't guarantee you will get COVID symptoms, just like driving drunk doesn't guarantee you will get into an accident, hitting raw doesn't guarantee you will get an STD, but life comes at you fast bro.

*I was going to list the KNOWN adverse reactions after COVID infection, but was overwhelmed by the sheer amount.

 

[frankmatthews]

Yeah "insane" would be categorizing it incorrectly.

"Dumb" is much more fitting.

Theres certainly no shortage of dumb reasoning for not getting vaccinated. The fact that an establishment has a history of putting harmful products on shelves while claiming they are safe seems like a valid concern.

 

[Comparison Ford]

My favorite big brain anti-vax take is that they don't need to be vaccinated because they "have an immune system."

That's like saying you don't need education because you have a brain.

 

[Blake P]

Back to school update: We haven't even made it through week 1 and I'm hearing there's already been an outbreak in 8th grade. Not even surprised with the weak effort the school is putting forth to start the year.

EDIT: email that went out to staff specifically said "keep this under wraps" like they're gonna keep it a secret? Legit considering my homeschool options rn.

 

[IATT]

It's on the parents at this point, I don't want to hear anything else.

i mean not completely..

no matter how many times the dumb shhh gets repeated, it's not a personal decision.. the actions/choices of grown a*#@* adults are and will impact others

 

[Comparison Ford]

Theres certainly no shortage of dumb reasoning for not getting vaccinated. The fact that an establishment has a history of putting harmful products on shelves while claiming they are safe seems like a valid concern.

Remember that thing I said about ignoring reality in favor of hypotheticals with no real evidence?

 

[Fozz]

Back to school update: We haven't even made it through week 1 and I'm hearing there's already been an outbreak in 8th grade. Not even surprised with the weak effort the school is putting forth to start the year.

I was going over the FAQs for my daughter's school and it says there will be no social distancing in class. Seems confusing when that page was last updated in July before the numbers got crazy. I hope they have an update on the guidelines when we meet her teacher next week.