GREY MARKET DISCUSSION THREAD VOL. 2!!! (LET'S KEEP THE DISCUSSION MATURE) RULES ON PG 1 PLEASE READ

Hold on, I have two pair of CDP Jordan 11 breds with those same flaws
You are greatly misinformed. There is a HUGE difference between flaws found on retail Jordan 11's, and the consistent similar flaws found on Jordan 11's. 

There is a reason why we are quickly able to decipher between a retail pair of JOrdan 11's whether they be from original release or a restock, versus GM pairs. 

The GM pairs all have similar flaws that you don't find on retail pairs. 

Find me a retail pair of 11's with super puffy collars and a rounded off phylon midsole in the back. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Meanwhile, i can show you literally HUNDREDS of GM pairs that all have those two exact same flaws. Coincidence....yeah right.
 
Why is this even a discussion on NT? If youre not getting the real deal you're not getting the real deal. Look what happened with Melrose jeweler's and Rolex :smh
 
Hold on, I have two pair of CDP Jordan 11 breds with those same flaws
Bull, post them up with two shots. One from directly above the ankles looking downard into the footbed, far enough back to see the whole shoe. Then another shot of those shoes from the back so we can see the phylon. Tag your name in the pics. Go ahead. 

Secondly, CDP bred 11s are VERY different that the last retro, which the GMs are poorly trying to duplicate. Also, CDP 11s are known for and laughed at for being the worst rendition of the Bred 11 ever. They have more flaws than any other version of that shoe. Even the 23 would rub off after like 5 wears with jeans. My 2012 pair has over 10 wears, and they still look perfect, 23 and all.
 
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Why is this even a discussion on NT? If youre not getting the real deal you're not getting the real deal. Look what happened with Melrose jeweler's and Rolex :smh
I agree...but the issue is that some people think that even though they "aren't the real deal", that they look exactly and are exactly the same. The ignorance is laughable, and is apparent given that we legit check real vs GM pairs of 11s everyday in the legit check forum. 

Kids in denial wanna pretend like we can't tell the difference.
 
This thread as it's currently constructed isn't going to help much if at all. Just cluttered with a bunch of back and forth.


Basically the only thing you can do is show side by side comparisons and shmmow people the difference and let them decide. Dudes who want GM pairs or don't care will defend GM pairs....Just help the dudes who WANT legit/retail pairs get informed.


The point of this thread is too help members to tell the differences and hopefully how to avoid GM's. Any suggestions on how to make this thread better is appreciated.

The biggest thing to me is stopping that back and forth. Good information will get lost I know dudes wanna help but I'm guessing some like to debate/argue too.

In 2014 if Gamble doesn't think the shoe market is flooded with GM pairs debating with him is a waste of time. Same goes with people who think the GM pairs exactly the same. Their mind is made up.

Address those who want to learn and get help.
 
The biggest thing to me is stopping that back and forth. Good information will get lost I know dudes wanna help but I'm guessing some like to debate/argue too.

In 2014 if Gamble doesn't think the shoe market is flooded with GM pairs debating with him is a waste of time. Same goes with people who think the GM pairs exactly the same. Their mind is made up.

Address those who want to learn and get help.
Im gonna stay saying this - The debate is how others learn. They see each side argue their point and make a decision. The back and forth is where the information lies. You don't have to partake in the back and forth, but that's what this thread will be about. Those that think their is no difference will be sorely rebutted and brought back to realilty. I and others can prove it easily all day.

Secondly, as releases occur, we will be using this thread to compare the differences, of which will be many.

Example: Joe wants a pair of concord 11 lows. He sees some people say there is no difference. He sees myself and others SHOW the consistent differences in our "back and forth debate" with the people that argue there is no difference. Joe sees the differences and agrees that they are not the same as retail pairs. Joe now has the knowledge and information to go out and cop a real pair. 
 
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I will have to go digging for those CDP pics, I sold them awhile ago. Here are some pictures of a pair of restocks I got from the house of hoops in Orlando, I wanted to return them but you cant return Retros so I sold them on Ebay. The Quality on these were terrible.
Yeah these def are't the CDPs. But all i see in these pics are slim narrow correct collars, and correct pointed phylon midsole shape in the back. *shrug
 
every china site and your IG/Twitter/Facebook seller is selling fakes. 100%!!! unless they are a reseller of course.

bet a stack on it.

Ive had TWO (2) HUGE China sellers everyone in the sneakerworld knows about ADMIT to me that the shoes are replicas and are 99% exact copy.

GM, Unauthorized, and what ever other word you guys use in the end they are all fake. 100%.
 
every china site and your IG/Twitter/Facebook seller is selling fakes. 100%!!! unless they are a reseller of course.

bet a stack on it.

Ive had TWO (2) HUGE China sellers everyone in the sneakerworld knows about ADMIT to me that the shoes are replicas and are 99% exact copy.

GM, Unauthorized, and what ever other word you guys use in the end they are all fake. 100%.
You are of course, referring to AirRandy. What was his real name? ANd who is the other seller? Once Air Rand admitted they were fakes, while looking exactly like every GM we've ever seen, solidified for me what the news is with these GM's.
 
every china site and your IG/Twitter/Facebook seller is selling fakes. 100%!!! unless they are a reseller of course.

bet a stack on it.

Ive had TWO (2) HUGE China sellers everyone in the sneakerworld knows about ADMIT to me that the shoes are replicas and are 99% exact copy.

GM, Unauthorized, and what ever other word you guys use in the end they are all fake. 100%.

Close thread. What are we talking about here?
 
Not gonna reveal names. You guys know all the top sellers so it doesnt even matter They all sell the same EXACT kicks. No one has anything better than anyone else. Same fake BS as one another.

The shoes are nothing but high quality FAKES. end of story. its quite obvious too when you compare to the real deal.

No idea why people bring up "quality" issues.

take 100 pairs of authentic Jordans guess what minus the stupid glue stains or minor quality issues.. they all look, weigh, smell, feel, and are the exact same shoe as one another. no differences in color, materials, build, mold, etc, etc

If these unauthorized/GM were made in same factory and the same shoes how come they differ so much from a real pair?

the proof is right in front of you.

These fooled everyone years ago including myself but having received a bunch of these kicks for free and doing my research for the last 3 years, its so damn obvious its not even funny.
 
Repped. I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise. That being said....I'm pretty bad at spotting a GM 6. 

Anyone know any consistent tells on 6's and 7's?
 
Repped. I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise. That being said....I'm pretty bad at spotting a GM 6. 

Anyone know any consistent tells on 6's and 7's?

Im not good with 6/7 in general since i dont really own them.
 
Just dislike how blogs and official threads take pics from sites like Marqueesole months prior to release. Aren't they known for selling GMs?
 
Just dislike how blogs and official threads take pics from sites like Marqueesole months prior to release. Aren't they known for selling GMs?
LOL...yes, but Marqueesole always takes really amazing pics of their fake *** sneakers.

They don't use pics that early from reputable sources because official images don't become available till much closer to RD
 
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LOL the entire damn color is different. This girl is newb as hell. But there is no denying that color difference. LOL....same materials? I think not. How is the red that far off?

 



This is the million dollar question. While some people will tell you GM=fake, others will argue that GM's are made in the same factory, with the same materials and by the same people that make the legit pairs. They just make some extra pairs and slip them out the back door. But it's really not that simple, there's a lot more going on.
Hopefully this thread can stay informative and help to educate members on how to avoid fakes and GM's.

Edit; I'll move the thread
So gms = b/c graded essentially
 
To me.....,
GM=?
I have seen GM's that are exact and I have seen some that horrible. The quality varys pair to pair. But I've also so 10000% legit pairs with quality issues. One guy bought a pair of gammas from foot action that turned out to have a hole in them. I believe everybody on NT can be fooled by atleast one
or be unsure. Until I receive an official statement from nike or go to the actual factories where GM's are made I will be undecided. If GM's are actually made in the same factory and by the same people then I don't know if you can call them %100 fake. I've always thought if GM's are really indeed made somewhere else how would they upgrade the quality from bad to great so quickly? I know that there are perfect reps but those are pretty easy to tell. And if they were able to upgrade so quickly how would they really be able to make some shoes exact just by pictures? Honestly I believe nike plays a integral role in the GM scene.
 
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