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Yeah it was the incident with Alonso that really put Lewis in a hole. I thought he could still selvage a point but there weren't many DNF's in thisrace and the rear tire degradation on his car didn't help either.
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though the aerial shots of the track where.
yes sir. speed channel needs to do that more often, as well as cockpit views so that the viewers can get a better feel for the track.
i was pulling for kubica.
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^The television feed Speed (and other stations worldwide) uses are those of the local television station which the FIA race director controls. The aerial shots(especially at Bahrain) were very nice but in no way does Speed have any control on the images they show.
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we need to get the director up in a blimp, because looking at a track from that view is amazing.
wishful thinking.
wishful thinking.
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Does Speed broadcast F1 in 16:9 (widescreen)?
new info on the Lewis/Alonso incident...
According to ITV...
A new reason for Hamilton driving into the back of the R28 has now emerged, with McLaren's CEO Martin Whitmarsh confirming the team later discovered hisMP4-23's front wing had already dislodged seconds before the contact. This would have meant the car suddenly lost both downforce and drag, potentiallycausing a sudden burst of acceleration.
new info on the Lewis/Alonso incident...
According to ITV...
A new reason for Hamilton driving into the back of the R28 has now emerged, with McLaren's CEO Martin Whitmarsh confirming the team later discovered hisMP4-23's front wing had already dislodged seconds before the contact. This would have meant the car suddenly lost both downforce and drag, potentiallycausing a sudden burst of acceleration.
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The slicks are back!
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[h2]The Spanish Grand Prix Preview - a voyage into the unknown[/h2]
If you were hoping that the times set during the recent test session at Barcelona's Circuit de Catalunya were going to provide a meaningful index toperformance in this weekend's Spanish Grand Prix, you no doubt you came away disappointed.
Felipe Massa was fastest for Ferrari on the first day, but ran on 2009-specification slicks. Fernando Alonso and Rubens Barrichello each had a day atop thetimesheets, for Renault and Honda respectively, and Mark Webber dominated the wet final day for Red Bull.
What did it all mean in the end? Only that everyone had a chance to do what they wanted, and in some cases that was not to set fast lap times.
Ferrari had a 'new' nose, with an air release slot not dissimilar to that pioneered on Formula One cars in 1968 as designers sought to exhaust hot airfrom front-mounted radiators, and very close to the purely aerodynamic function of the 1980 Lotus 80. Whether it will make a dramatic difference is currentlyopen to debate, but the team's aerodynamicist Nicholas Tombazis was careful not to let people get over-excited about it.
"The influence on car performance of the slotted nose has been greatly over emphasised," Tombazis told reporters. "You cannot measure the effectof one component in isolation and the nose is just one part of a bigger package and in fact, its effect is not that big. Overall, we expect the new aeropackage to produce some improvement in performance, but it would be wrong to call it a race-winning item."
Everyone nevertheless hopes that their upgraded mechanical and aerodynamic packages will make them more competitive here. McLaren were cautious, after whatappeared to be an inconclusive test. Lewis Hamilton did not set particularly quick lap times, but said he remains buoyant ahead of the start of the Europeanseason despite the errors that made Bahrain his worst-ever showing in Formula One racing and cost him his lead in the world championship as he failed to score.
"For sure, you learn something in every race, even if you win," he said as he prepares to bounce back. "I think we have come a long way andlooking into the next race I feel very confident that we can do a better job."
Referring to the updates on his McLaren MP4-23, he said: "There were a few but not a lot, but we definitely made some steps forward and I think at thistest everyone is doing something different. Some people are running slick tyres and some people are running grooves. We just focused on our job and I think thecar feels a little better and I feel a little bit more comfortable in it. We feel quite strong here."
BMW Sauber are riding the crest of a wave of unexpected success right now, and lead the constructors' championship, but boss Mario Theissen isn'tgetting carried away just yet.
"The next race in Barcelona will be pretty interesting for two reasons," he explained. "The track is very relevant to what we see for the restof the year, and on the other hand, every team will have a development package for Barcelona. So after Barcelona we will be able to say where we reallyare."
Honda and Williams made encouraging noises about their performance, as did Red Bull, Toyota look quietly effective yet again, but Renault frankly admitted thatthe performance of the updated R28 disappointed, Alonso's fastest time notwithstanding.
Ferrari may be the current pacesetters, but they say they are expecting a tough fight. "We come to Spain with every reason to be optimistic, after wins inMalaysia and Bahrain," said team principal Stefano Domenicali. "Testing here went well and we hope to keep our momentum moving forward. However, ourrivals have not been twiddling their thumbs either, so we can expect a tough fight which we will tackle as usual with maximum concentration at every stage ofthe weekend."
Kimi Raikkonen relishes coming to Europe as championship leader for the first time in his career, and is keen to repeat is 2005 victory. "We have all thecomponents in place to be very competitive," he says but, echoing his team boss, he adds: "It will be a very tough weekend."
Back in Australia, and again in Malaysia, McLaren boss Ron Dennis stressed that the true picture of the 2008 world championship would not become apparent untilthe start of the European leg. "We don't really know what our pace is at the moment," he said in Melbourne. "We won't really know howcompetitive our car is until after Barcelona. Australia, Malaysia and Bahrain are very different circuits and do not reflect the true pace of the car.Barcelona will be where it is all at."
Welcome to the latest showdown.
One of my favorite circuits
If you were hoping that the times set during the recent test session at Barcelona's Circuit de Catalunya were going to provide a meaningful index toperformance in this weekend's Spanish Grand Prix, you no doubt you came away disappointed.
Felipe Massa was fastest for Ferrari on the first day, but ran on 2009-specification slicks. Fernando Alonso and Rubens Barrichello each had a day atop thetimesheets, for Renault and Honda respectively, and Mark Webber dominated the wet final day for Red Bull.
What did it all mean in the end? Only that everyone had a chance to do what they wanted, and in some cases that was not to set fast lap times.
Ferrari had a 'new' nose, with an air release slot not dissimilar to that pioneered on Formula One cars in 1968 as designers sought to exhaust hot airfrom front-mounted radiators, and very close to the purely aerodynamic function of the 1980 Lotus 80. Whether it will make a dramatic difference is currentlyopen to debate, but the team's aerodynamicist Nicholas Tombazis was careful not to let people get over-excited about it.
"The influence on car performance of the slotted nose has been greatly over emphasised," Tombazis told reporters. "You cannot measure the effectof one component in isolation and the nose is just one part of a bigger package and in fact, its effect is not that big. Overall, we expect the new aeropackage to produce some improvement in performance, but it would be wrong to call it a race-winning item."
Everyone nevertheless hopes that their upgraded mechanical and aerodynamic packages will make them more competitive here. McLaren were cautious, after whatappeared to be an inconclusive test. Lewis Hamilton did not set particularly quick lap times, but said he remains buoyant ahead of the start of the Europeanseason despite the errors that made Bahrain his worst-ever showing in Formula One racing and cost him his lead in the world championship as he failed to score.
"For sure, you learn something in every race, even if you win," he said as he prepares to bounce back. "I think we have come a long way andlooking into the next race I feel very confident that we can do a better job."
Referring to the updates on his McLaren MP4-23, he said: "There were a few but not a lot, but we definitely made some steps forward and I think at thistest everyone is doing something different. Some people are running slick tyres and some people are running grooves. We just focused on our job and I think thecar feels a little better and I feel a little bit more comfortable in it. We feel quite strong here."
BMW Sauber are riding the crest of a wave of unexpected success right now, and lead the constructors' championship, but boss Mario Theissen isn'tgetting carried away just yet.
"The next race in Barcelona will be pretty interesting for two reasons," he explained. "The track is very relevant to what we see for the restof the year, and on the other hand, every team will have a development package for Barcelona. So after Barcelona we will be able to say where we reallyare."
Honda and Williams made encouraging noises about their performance, as did Red Bull, Toyota look quietly effective yet again, but Renault frankly admitted thatthe performance of the updated R28 disappointed, Alonso's fastest time notwithstanding.
Ferrari may be the current pacesetters, but they say they are expecting a tough fight. "We come to Spain with every reason to be optimistic, after wins inMalaysia and Bahrain," said team principal Stefano Domenicali. "Testing here went well and we hope to keep our momentum moving forward. However, ourrivals have not been twiddling their thumbs either, so we can expect a tough fight which we will tackle as usual with maximum concentration at every stage ofthe weekend."
Kimi Raikkonen relishes coming to Europe as championship leader for the first time in his career, and is keen to repeat is 2005 victory. "We have all thecomponents in place to be very competitive," he says but, echoing his team boss, he adds: "It will be a very tough weekend."
Back in Australia, and again in Malaysia, McLaren boss Ron Dennis stressed that the true picture of the 2008 world championship would not become apparent untilthe start of the European leg. "We don't really know what our pace is at the moment," he said in Melbourne. "We won't really know howcompetitive our car is until after Barcelona. Australia, Malaysia and Bahrain are very different circuits and do not reflect the true pace of the car.Barcelona will be where it is all at."
Welcome to the latest showdown.
One of my favorite circuits
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01 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:20.649 17 laps
02 F. Massa Ferrari 1:20.699 9 laps
03 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:21.192 20 laps
04 R. Kubica BMW 1:21.568 20 laps
05 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:21.758 10 laps
06 F. Alonso Renault 1:21.933 18 laps
07 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:21.936 21 laps
08 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:22.118 20 laps
09 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:22.278 24 laps
10 J. Button Honda 1:22.632 16 laps
11 T. Glock Toyota 1:23.002 21 laps
12 N. Rosberg Williams 1:23.003 25 laps
13 M. Webber Red Bull 1:23.015 14 laps
14 J. Trulli Toyota 1:23.141 15 laps
15 K. Nakajima Williams 1:23.153 24 laps
16 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:23.156 22 laps
17 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:23.196 20 laps
18 R. Barrichello Honda 1:23.353 14 laps
19 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:23.952 15 laps
20 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:24.082 15 laps
21 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:24.278 14 laps
22 A. Davidson Super Aguri 1:25.068 10 laps
01 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:20.649 17 laps
02 F. Massa Ferrari 1:20.699 9 laps
03 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:21.192 20 laps
04 R. Kubica BMW 1:21.568 20 laps
05 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:21.758 10 laps
06 F. Alonso Renault 1:21.933 18 laps
07 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:21.936 21 laps
08 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:22.118 20 laps
09 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:22.278 24 laps
10 J. Button Honda 1:22.632 16 laps
11 T. Glock Toyota 1:23.002 21 laps
12 N. Rosberg Williams 1:23.003 25 laps
13 M. Webber Red Bull 1:23.015 14 laps
14 J. Trulli Toyota 1:23.141 15 laps
15 K. Nakajima Williams 1:23.153 24 laps
16 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:23.156 22 laps
17 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:23.196 20 laps
18 R. Barrichello Honda 1:23.353 14 laps
19 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:23.952 15 laps
20 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:24.082 15 laps
21 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:24.278 14 laps
22 A. Davidson Super Aguri 1:25.068 10 laps
One of my favorite circuits
I agree... long straights, sweeping corners with the occasional hairpins... but I didn't like the 'new' chicane before turn 13... safety first Iguess...
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Hmm...
WRC and F1 on the same weekend.
Lets see, BMW will start in the front row but will end up behind Ferrari and McLaren. Toyota will be in the points. Both Redbulls will DNF. Alonslo will end upeither in the 8th spot or will be fighting a Honda for the last spot. However, I have a feeling one Honda will DNF.
Both Super Aguris will finish the race.
WRC and F1 on the same weekend.
Lets see, BMW will start in the front row but will end up behind Ferrari and McLaren. Toyota will be in the points. Both Redbulls will DNF. Alonslo will end upeither in the 8th spot or will be fighting a Honda for the last spot. However, I have a feeling one Honda will DNF.
Both Super Aguris will finish the race.
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Times
01 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:21.935 38 laps
02 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:22.019 38 laps
03 F. Alonso Renault 1:22.032 26 laps
04 K. Nakajima Williams 1:22.172 35 laps
05 F. Massa Ferrari 1:22.229 32 laps
06 M. Webber Red Bull 1:22.238 36 laps
07 N. Rosberg Williams 1:22.266 33 laps
08 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:22.289 30 laps
09 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:22.383 38 laps
10 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:22.548 38 laps
11 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:22.685 33 laps
12 R. Kubica BMW 1:22.788 38 laps
13 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:23.130 40 laps
14 J. Trulli Toyota 1:23.224 34 laps
15 J. Button Honda 1:23.263 34 laps
16 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:23.264 8 laps
17 R. Barrichello Honda 1:23.415 31 laps
18 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:23.661 35 laps
19 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:23.684 37 laps
20 T. Glock Toyota 1:23.883 40 laps
21 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:25.110 30 laps
22 A. Davidson Super Aguri 1:25.163 31 laps
01 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:21.935 38 laps
02 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:22.019 38 laps
03 F. Alonso Renault 1:22.032 26 laps
04 K. Nakajima Williams 1:22.172 35 laps
05 F. Massa Ferrari 1:22.229 32 laps
06 M. Webber Red Bull 1:22.238 36 laps
07 N. Rosberg Williams 1:22.266 33 laps
08 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:22.289 30 laps
09 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:22.383 38 laps
10 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:22.548 38 laps
11 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:22.685 33 laps
12 R. Kubica BMW 1:22.788 38 laps
13 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:23.130 40 laps
14 J. Trulli Toyota 1:23.224 34 laps
15 J. Button Honda 1:23.263 34 laps
16 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:23.264 8 laps
17 R. Barrichello Honda 1:23.415 31 laps
18 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:23.661 35 laps
19 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:23.684 37 laps
20 T. Glock Toyota 1:23.883 40 laps
21 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:25.110 30 laps
22 A. Davidson Super Aguri 1:25.163 31 laps
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01 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:21.269 19 laps
02 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:21.465 16 laps
03 F. Alonso Renault 1:21.599 16 laps
04 R. Kubica BMW 1:21.717 23 laps
05 J. Trulli Toyota 1:21.771 21 laps
06 S. Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:21.942 19 laps
07 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:21.992 18 laps
08 J. Button Honda 1:22.060 17 laps
09 F. Massa Ferrari 1:22.075 16 laps
10 T. Glock Toyota 1:22.081 23 laps
11 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:22.094 15 laps
12 N. Rosberg Williams 1:22.174 19 laps
13 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:22.176 18 laps
14 K. Nakajima Williams 1:22.189 16 laps
15 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:22.220 16 laps
16 S. Vettel Toro Rosso 1:22.292 20 laps
17 R. Barrichello Honda 1:22.350 17 laps
18 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:22.466 22 laps
19 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:22.689 21 laps
20 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:23.726 16 laps
21 A. Davidson Super Aguri 1:23.921 15 laps
22 M. Webber Red Bull no time 2 laps
Kimi has this in the bag...
01 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:21.269 19 laps
02 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:21.465 16 laps
03 F. Alonso Renault 1:21.599 16 laps
04 R. Kubica BMW 1:21.717 23 laps
05 J. Trulli Toyota 1:21.771 21 laps
06 S. Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:21.942 19 laps
07 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:21.992 18 laps
08 J. Button Honda 1:22.060 17 laps
09 F. Massa Ferrari 1:22.075 16 laps
10 T. Glock Toyota 1:22.081 23 laps
11 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:22.094 15 laps
12 N. Rosberg Williams 1:22.174 19 laps
13 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:22.176 18 laps
14 K. Nakajima Williams 1:22.189 16 laps
15 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:22.220 16 laps
16 S. Vettel Toro Rosso 1:22.292 20 laps
17 R. Barrichello Honda 1:22.350 17 laps
18 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:22.466 22 laps
19 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:22.689 21 laps
20 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:23.726 16 laps
21 A. Davidson Super Aguri 1:23.921 15 laps
22 M. Webber Red Bull no time 2 laps
Kimi has this in the bag...
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Alonso on P2
He probably only has enough fuel for 7 laps.
He probably only has enough fuel for 7 laps.
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^ haha... yeah well, Renault might just be sandbagging... all of Alonso's talk before the GP about not having any chance... I'm saying 10-12 laps,maybe?
anyway...
Times
01 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:21.813
02 F. Alonso Renault 1:21.904
03 F. Massa Ferrari 1:22.058
04 R. Kubica BMW 1:22.065
05 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:22.096
06 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:22.231
07 M. Webber Red Bull 1:22.429
08 J. Trulli Toyota 1:22.529
09 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:22.542
10 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:22.699
11 R. Barrichello Honda 1:21.049
12 K. Nakajima Williams 1:21.117
13 J. Button Honda 1:21.211
14 T. Glock Toyota 1:21.230
15 N. Rosberg Williams 1:21.349
16 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:21.724
17 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:21.810
18 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:22.108
19 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:22.516
20 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:23.224
21 A. Davidson Super Aguri 1:23.318
22 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:23.496
anyway...
Times
01 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:21.813
02 F. Alonso Renault 1:21.904
03 F. Massa Ferrari 1:22.058
04 R. Kubica BMW 1:22.065
05 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:22.096
06 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:22.231
07 M. Webber Red Bull 1:22.429
08 J. Trulli Toyota 1:22.529
09 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:22.542
10 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:22.699
11 R. Barrichello Honda 1:21.049
12 K. Nakajima Williams 1:21.117
13 J. Button Honda 1:21.211
14 T. Glock Toyota 1:21.230
15 N. Rosberg Williams 1:21.349
16 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:21.724
17 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:21.810
18 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:22.108
19 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:22.516
20 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:23.224
21 A. Davidson Super Aguri 1:23.318
22 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:23.496
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Probably a 3 stop strategy for him tomorrow. Slim chance at being successful but that all depends on the first 7-10 laps. Tchau!
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Results
01 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:38:19.051
02 F. Massa Ferrari + 3.228
03 L. Hamilton McLaren + 4.187
04 R. Kubica BMW + 5.694
05 M. Webber Red Bull + 35.938
06 J. Button Honda + 53.010
07 K. Nakajima Williams + 58.244
08 J. Trulli Toyota + 59.435
09 N. Heidfeld BMW + 1:03.073
10 G. Fisichella Force India F1 + 1 laps
11 T. Glock Toyota + 1 laps
12 D. Coulthard Red Bull + 1 laps
13 T. Sato Super Aguri + 1 laps
Did not finish
14 N. Rosberg Williams + 25 laps
15 F. Alonso Renault + 32 laps
16 R. Barrichello Honda + 32 laps
17 H. Kovalainen McLaren + 45 laps
18 A. Davidson Super Aguri + 58 laps
19 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso + 58 laps
20 N. Piquet jr. Renault + 59 laps
21 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso + 66 laps
22 A. Sutil Force India F1 + 66 laps
* a tyre failure caused Kovalainen to crash into the Turn 9 tyre wall at 140mph...
though he is reported to be ok... meanwhile, Alonso had a DNF due to an engine failure...
01 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:38:19.051
02 F. Massa Ferrari + 3.228
03 L. Hamilton McLaren + 4.187
04 R. Kubica BMW + 5.694
05 M. Webber Red Bull + 35.938
06 J. Button Honda + 53.010
07 K. Nakajima Williams + 58.244
08 J. Trulli Toyota + 59.435
09 N. Heidfeld BMW + 1:03.073
10 G. Fisichella Force India F1 + 1 laps
11 T. Glock Toyota + 1 laps
12 D. Coulthard Red Bull + 1 laps
13 T. Sato Super Aguri + 1 laps
Did not finish
14 N. Rosberg Williams + 25 laps
15 F. Alonso Renault + 32 laps
16 R. Barrichello Honda + 32 laps
17 H. Kovalainen McLaren + 45 laps
18 A. Davidson Super Aguri + 58 laps
19 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso + 58 laps
20 N. Piquet jr. Renault + 59 laps
21 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso + 66 laps
22 A. Sutil Force India F1 + 66 laps
* a tyre failure caused Kovalainen to crash into the Turn 9 tyre wall at 140mph...
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Not a good weekend for Renault overall....
step your game up
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Ferrari. Can't stop, won't stop. Do your thang Kimi.
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I wish Heikki a speedy recovery. That crash was scary looking and looking at Circuit de Catalunya, there are places where there is only the thinly"padded" walls or concrete walls so it could've been disastrous. Kimi did an absolutely fantastic job and I hope the scuderia can keep it up.
at Kimi for taking that huge gulp of the good stuff (make that 2)before the local dignitaries even cleared the podium, almost makes you wonder if he's in it just for the champagne. It'll be interesting to see if VMM,having the shorter wheelbase than the Ferraris, will dominate at Monaco just like last year but first onto Istanbul!
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The scary part about Kovy's crash was how the quick the medical car came out, which is never a good sign... but at the end all seems to beok... notice on the on-board footage how his front-left just explodes...
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[table][tr][th="col"]P.[/th] [th="col"]Driver[/th] [th="col"]Team[/th] [th="col"]Time[/th] [/tr][tr][td]1[/td] [th="row"]Felipe Massa[/th] [td]Ferrari[/td] [td]1:27.323[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2[/td] [th="row"]Heikki Kovalainen[/th] [td]McLaren[/td] [td]0:00.133[/td] [/tr][tr][td]3[/td] [th="row"]Lewis Hamilton[/th] [td]McLaren[/td] [td]0:00.429[/td] [/tr][tr][td]4[/td] [th="row"]Fernando Alonso[/th] [td]Renault[/td] [td]0:00.961[/td] [/tr][tr][td]5[/td] [th="row"]Jenson Button[/th] [td]Honda[/td] [td]0:01.596[/td] [/tr][tr][td]6[/td] [th="row"]Kazuki Nakajima[/th] [td]Williams[/td] [td]0:01.679[/td] [/tr][tr][td]7[/td] [th="row"]Nick Heidfeld[/th] [td]BMW[/td] [td]0:01.701[/td] [/tr][tr][td]8[/td] [th="row"]Rubens Barrichello[/th] [td]Honda[/td] [td]0:01.745[/td] [/tr][tr][td]9[/td] [th="row"]Nelsinho Piquet Jr[/th] [td]Renault[/td] [td]0:01.759[/td] [/tr][tr][td]10[/td] [th="row"]Timo Glock[/th] [td]Toyota[/td] [td]0:01.780[/td] [/tr][tr][td]11[/td] [th="row"]Jarno Trulli[/th] [td]Toyota[/td] [td]0:02.006[/td] [/tr][tr][td]12[/td] [th="row"]Robert Kubica[/th] [td]BMW[/td] [td]0:02.007[/td] [/tr][tr][td]13[/td] [th="row"]Nico Rosberg[/th] [td]Williams[/td] [td]0:02.044[/td] [/tr][tr][td]14[/td] [th="row"]Adrian Sutil[/th] [td]Force India[/td] [td]0:02.433[/td] [/tr][tr][td]15[/td] [th="row"]Giancarlo Fisichella[/th] [td]Force India[/td] [td]0:02.488[/td] [/tr][tr][td]16[/td] [th="row"]Mark Webber[/th] [td]Red Bull[/td] [td]0:02.765[/td] [/tr][tr][td]17[/td] [th="row"]David Coulthard[/th] [td]Red Bull[/td] [td]0:03.017[/td] [/tr][tr][td]18[/td] [th="row"]Sebastien Bourdais[/th] [td]Toro Rosso[/td] [td]0:03.065[/td] [/tr][tr][td]19[/td] [th="row"]Sebastien Vettel[/th] [td]Toro Rosso[/td] [td]0:03.103[/td] [/tr][tr][td]20[/td] [th="row"]Kimi Räikkönen[/th] [td]Ferrari[/td] [td]0:03.409[/td] [/tr][/table]
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qualifying times:
[table][tr][th=""]Pos[/th] [th=""]No[/th] [th=""]Driver[/th] [th=""]Team[/th] [th=""]Q1[/th] [th=""]Q2[/th] [th=""]Q3[/th] [th=""]Laps[/th] [/tr][tr][td]1[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]Felipe Massa[/td] [td]Ferrari[/td] [td]1:25.994[/td] [td]1:26.192[/td] [td]1:27.617[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]2[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]Heikki Kovalainen[/td] [td]McLaren-Mercedes[/td] [td]1:26.736[/td] [td]1:26.290[/td] [td]1:27.808[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]3[/td] [td]22[/td] [td]Lewis Hamilton[/td] [td]McLaren-Mercedes[/td] [td]1:26.192[/td] [td]1:26.477[/td] [td]1:27.923[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]4[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]Kimi Räikkönen[/td] [td]Ferrari[/td] [td]1:26.457[/td] [td]1:26.050[/td] [td]1:27.936[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]5[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]Robert Kubica[/td] [td]BMW Sauber[/td] [td]1:26.761[/td] [td]1:26.129[/td] [td]1:28.390[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]6[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]Mark Webber[/td] [td]Red Bull-Renault[/td] [td]1:26.773[/td] [td]1:26.466[/td] [td]1:28.417[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]7[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]Fernando Alonso[/td] [td]Renault[/td] [td]1:26.836[/td] [td]1:26.522[/td] [td]1:28.422[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]8[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]Jarno Trulli[/td] [td]Toyota[/td] [td]1:26.695[/td] [td]1:26.822[/td] [td]1:28.836[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]9[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]Nick Heidfeld[/td] [td]BMW Sauber[/td] [td]1:27.107[/td] [td]1:26.607[/td] [td]1:28.882[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]10[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]David Coulthard[/td] [td]Red Bull-Renault[/td] [td]1:26.939[/td] [td]1:26.520[/td] [td]1:29.959[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]11[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]Nico Rosberg[/td] [td]Williams-Toyota[/td] [td]1:27.367[/td] [td]1:27.012[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]12[/td] [td]17[/td] [td]Rubens Barrichello[/td] [td]Honda[/td] [td]1:27.355[/td] [td]1:27.219[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]13[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]Jenson Button[/td] [td]Honda[/td] [td]1:27.428[/td] [td]1:27.298[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]14[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]Sebastian Vettel[/td] [td]STR-Ferrari[/td] [td]1:27.442[/td] [td]1:27.412[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]15[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]Timo Glock[/td] [td]Toyota[/td] [td]1:26.614[/td] [td]1:27.806[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]16[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]Kazuki Nakajima[/td] [td]Williams-Toyota[/td] [td]1:27.547[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]17[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]Nelsinho Piquet[/td] [td]Renault[/td] [td]1:27.568[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]18[/td] [td]14[/td] [td]Sebastien Bourdais[/td] [td]STR-Ferrari[/td] [td]1:27.621[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]19[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]Giancarlo Fisichella[/td] [td]Force India-Ferrari[/td] [td]1:27.807[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]20[/td] [td]20[/td] [td]Adrian Sutil[/td] [td]Force India-Ferrari[/td] [td]1:28.325[/td] [/tr][/table]
The only real surprise is Heikki, but I just don't have confidence that he'll perform come race time sadly. As long as Massa keeps his head togetherand doesn't suffer a mechanical failure/accident, I don't see anyone taking it from him. This is one of three circuits in the season that I haven'tdriven and I REALLY REALLY want to experience turn 8 but Turkey just isn't a place I feel comfortable traveling to at the moment. Oh well, some day.
[table][tr][th=""]Pos[/th] [th=""]No[/th] [th=""]Driver[/th] [th=""]Team[/th] [th=""]Q1[/th] [th=""]Q2[/th] [th=""]Q3[/th] [th=""]Laps[/th] [/tr][tr][td]1[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]Felipe Massa[/td] [td]Ferrari[/td] [td]1:25.994[/td] [td]1:26.192[/td] [td]1:27.617[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]2[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]Heikki Kovalainen[/td] [td]McLaren-Mercedes[/td] [td]1:26.736[/td] [td]1:26.290[/td] [td]1:27.808[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]3[/td] [td]22[/td] [td]Lewis Hamilton[/td] [td]McLaren-Mercedes[/td] [td]1:26.192[/td] [td]1:26.477[/td] [td]1:27.923[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]4[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]Kimi Räikkönen[/td] [td]Ferrari[/td] [td]1:26.457[/td] [td]1:26.050[/td] [td]1:27.936[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]5[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]Robert Kubica[/td] [td]BMW Sauber[/td] [td]1:26.761[/td] [td]1:26.129[/td] [td]1:28.390[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]6[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]Mark Webber[/td] [td]Red Bull-Renault[/td] [td]1:26.773[/td] [td]1:26.466[/td] [td]1:28.417[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]7[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]Fernando Alonso[/td] [td]Renault[/td] [td]1:26.836[/td] [td]1:26.522[/td] [td]1:28.422[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]8[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]Jarno Trulli[/td] [td]Toyota[/td] [td]1:26.695[/td] [td]1:26.822[/td] [td]1:28.836[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]9[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]Nick Heidfeld[/td] [td]BMW Sauber[/td] [td]1:27.107[/td] [td]1:26.607[/td] [td]1:28.882[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]10[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]David Coulthard[/td] [td]Red Bull-Renault[/td] [td]1:26.939[/td] [td]1:26.520[/td] [td]1:29.959[/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]11[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]Nico Rosberg[/td] [td]Williams-Toyota[/td] [td]1:27.367[/td] [td]1:27.012[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]12[/td] [td]17[/td] [td]Rubens Barrichello[/td] [td]Honda[/td] [td]1:27.355[/td] [td]1:27.219[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]13[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]Jenson Button[/td] [td]Honda[/td] [td]1:27.428[/td] [td]1:27.298[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]14[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]Sebastian Vettel[/td] [td]STR-Ferrari[/td] [td]1:27.442[/td] [td]1:27.412[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]15[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]Timo Glock[/td] [td]Toyota[/td] [td]1:26.614[/td] [td]1:27.806[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]16[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]Kazuki Nakajima[/td] [td]Williams-Toyota[/td] [td]1:27.547[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]17[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]Nelsinho Piquet[/td] [td]Renault[/td] [td]1:27.568[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]18[/td] [td]14[/td] [td]Sebastien Bourdais[/td] [td]STR-Ferrari[/td] [td]1:27.621[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]19[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]Giancarlo Fisichella[/td] [td]Force India-Ferrari[/td] [td]1:27.807[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr][tr][td]20[/td] [td]20[/td] [td]Adrian Sutil[/td] [td]Force India-Ferrari[/td] [td]1:28.325[/td] [/tr][/table]
The only real surprise is Heikki, but I just don't have confidence that he'll perform come race time sadly. As long as Massa keeps his head togetherand doesn't suffer a mechanical failure/accident, I don't see anyone taking it from him. This is one of three circuits in the season that I haven'tdriven and I REALLY REALLY want to experience turn 8 but Turkey just isn't a place I feel comfortable traveling to at the moment. Oh well, some day.
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there you guys are... I was beginning to feel like I was the only one in the room...
interesting note is that Hamilton ran all his Q3 laps in the harder prime tyre, while the rest used the option... He also had a bit of 'a moment'during the middle of turn 8, which might have cost some time... Massa's prolly running 18 laps, while Kimi's running heavy... 20-22?
Curt - you've driven? gamewise I suppose? or moonlight as a gp driver?
interesting note is that Hamilton ran all his Q3 laps in the harder prime tyre, while the rest used the option... He also had a bit of 'a moment'during the middle of turn 8, which might have cost some time... Massa's prolly running 18 laps, while Kimi's running heavy... 20-22?
Curt - you've driven? gamewise I suppose? or moonlight as a gp driver?
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Granted I'm sure even fewer people here watch gp2 than the actual gp, bruno senna got royally screwed. I mean what the hell are the odds that a dog runs onthe track? I remember last season in canada when anthony davidson hit that groundhog and that was crazy, but a dog?! Really? And sinnerP, I've done someprofessional driving (but was STRONGLY held back from it by my parents who wanted me to go the school route and I'm fine with that now. I still spend agood amount of time driving for enjoyment or in "gentlemen's contests" at track days.
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[table][tr][th="col"]P.[/th] [th="col"]Driver[/th] [th="col"]Team[/th] [th="col"]Time[/th] [/tr][tr][td]1[/td] [th="row"]Felipe Massa[/th] [td]Ferrari[/td] [td]1:26:49.451[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2[/td] [th="row"]Lewis Hamilton[/th] [td]McLaren[/td] [td]3.779[/td] [/tr][tr][td]3[/td] [th="row"]Kimi Räikkönen[/th] [td]Ferrari[/td] [td]4.271[/td] [/tr][tr][td]4[/td] [th="row"]Robert Kubica[/th] [td]BMW[/td] [td]21.945[/td] [/tr][tr][td]5[/td] [th="row"]Nick Heidfeld[/th] [td]BMW[/td] [td]38.741[/td] [/tr][tr][td]6[/td] [th="row"]Fernando Alonso[/th] [td]Renault[/td] [td]53.724[/td] [/tr][tr][td]7[/td] [th="row"]Mark Webber[/th] [td]Red Bull[/td] [td]1:04.229[/td] [/tr][tr][td]8[/td] [th="row"]Nico Rosberg[/th] [td]Williams[/td] [td]1:11.406[/td] [/tr][tr][td]9[/td] [th="row"]David Coulthard[/th] [td]Red Bull[/td] [td]1:15.270[/td] [/tr][tr][td]10[/td] [th="row"]Jarno Trulli[/th] [td]Toyota[/td] [td]1:16.344[/td] [/tr][tr][td]11[/td] [th="row"]Jenson Button[/th] [td]Honda[/td] [td]*at 1 lap[/td] [/tr][tr][td]12[/td] [th="row"]Heikki Kovalainen[/th] [td]McLaren[/td] [td]*at 1 lap[/td] [/tr][tr][td]13[/td] [th="row"]Timo Glock[/th] [td]Toyota[/td] [td]*at 1 lap[/td] [/tr][tr][td]14[/td] [th="row"]Rubens Barrichello[/th] [td]Honda[/td] [td]*at 1 lap[/td] [/tr][tr][td]15[/td] [th="row"]Nelsinho Piquet Jr[/th] [td]Renault[/td] [td]*at 1 lap[/td] [/tr][tr][td]16[/td] [th="row"]Adrian Sutil[/th] [td]Force India[/td] [td]*at 1 lap[/td] [/tr][tr][td]17[/td] [th="row"]Sebastien Vettel[/th] [td]Toro Rosso[/td] [td]*at 1 lap[/td] [/tr][tr][td]18[/td] [th="row"]Sebastien Bourdais[/th] [td]Toro Rosso[/td] [td]*out[/td] [/tr][tr][td]19[/td] [th="row"]Kazuki Nakajima[/th] [td]Williams[/td] [td]*out[/td] [/tr][tr][td]20[/td] [th="row"]Giancarlo Fisichella[/th] [td]Force India[/td] [td]*out[/td] [/tr][/table]
Hamilton - 3 stops... huge gamble that sorta paid off... should had pole though...
GP2 - wait, what happened? A dog??? WTH??? Worse than disgruntled Mercedes-Benz factory workers I suppose...
Curt - specifically, what sort of racing did you participate in? what type of cars? open-wheelers? Sports cars? details please! and what do you drive nowfor track days?
Hamilton - 3 stops... huge gamble that sorta paid off... should had pole though...
GP2 - wait, what happened? A dog??? WTH??? Worse than disgruntled Mercedes-Benz factory workers I suppose...
Curt - specifically, what sort of racing did you participate in? what type of cars? open-wheelers? Sports cars? details please! and what do you drive nowfor track days?
