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Fools Wildin Thinking They Doing It Unappreciation Vol Get The @#*+ out
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SHE RETURNED THE MONEY
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It's always amusing seeing people who have 0 knowledge of poker discuss poker.
Sexism,
Her gender and single digit IQ is helping her here, if this were another male professional player, it would be labeled cheating by every professional player on the planet.
She calls off 110K in a spot where she claims she thought she has 10% equity but manages to have 47% equity.
This is really the only bluff in his range that she's doing ok against, that's why people who understand poker think there's something up.
There was a MAJOR cheating scandal just a few years ago on a live poker stream, the outrage is warranted.
Sexism,
Her gender and single digit IQ is helping her here, if this were another male professional player, it would be labeled cheating by every professional player on the planet.
She calls off 110K in a spot where she claims she thought she has 10% equity but manages to have 47% equity.
This is really the only bluff in his range that she's doing ok against, that's why people who understand poker think there's something up.
There was a MAJOR cheating scandal just a few years ago on a live poker stream, the outrage is warranted.
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This is like poetryIt's always amusing seeing people who have 0 knowledge of poker discuss poker.
Sexism,
Her gender and single digit IQ is helping her here, if this were another male professional player, it would be labeled cheating by every professional player on the planet.
She calls off 110K in a spot where she claims she thought she has 10% equity but manages to have 47% equity.
This is really the only bluff in his range that she's doing ok against, that's why people who understand poker think there's something up.
There was a MAJOR cheating scandal just a few years ago on a live poker stream, the outrage is warranted.
Takes issue with someone mentioning sexism, then post this
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This is like poetry
Takes issue with someone mentioning sexism, then post this
Yea, me calling her dumb isn't sexist, it's calling a spade a spade.
If you don't understand poker, just say that.
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Famb, you not only used this situation to insult her general intelligence, but you also said she is getting preferential treatment because she is a woman.
If you don't want people to think you are sexist, and the anger to ward her doesn't involve sexism, you are doing a terrible job
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Again, if you don't understand poker just say that.
If you understood the game, you'd also be calling her a clown.
Her explaining this hand is like ninjahood trying to explain why he isn't black.
There's plenty of brilliant women in poker, she's not one of them.
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I understand enough about poker, and given the evidence available, to think people like you are overreacting about this situation and probably a bit sexist
And every time you post, I fall deeper into that position
I don't see the compelling evidence or explanation that is so concrete that it makes "she took a massive risk and got very lucky".
If evidence comes out, I will change my opinion, but nothing you dudes saying seems compelling
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You claimed poker was gambling, your level of understanding is literally @ 0.
A lot of high level players suspect cheating in the hand, there's a reason for that and it's not because she's a woman.
But hey, I'm sure that a bunch of NT'ers who have dissertation battles on Bernie Sanders and M&N shorts know better than people who make millions playing poker.
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She didn't get lucky, this is exactly the point.
Like I keep saying, if you don't understand poker, just say that.
This is a coin flip situation, that you're literally never calling unless you know his exact holding.
This is why people think that something is up.
You're not making this play unless you know your opponent has exactly 87 here.
There's already been a cheating scandal involving live streams when someone hacked the feed and had access to everyone's holdings.
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There can obviously be folks out there who are sexist and their opinion can reflect that. But this play is one of the worst of all time. Tell me the last WSOP or any live streamed high stakes event you’ve watched that had a more ridiculous play?
Did you watch the hand rusty? Did you understand what she did? I’m thinking you’re not understanding what happened, if you can’t see why people are reacting with outrage.
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You can find plenty of ridiculous plays being made, but not for $300K.
Her explanation of the hand + her refunding the $ just makes her look guilty.
She should've not said anything and never gave the $ back if it were a legit hand.
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I understand poker takes skill, but it still involves chance/luck/probability and money is wagered. My point is, luck saved her. Luck saves a lot of poker players all the time. I just don't see some compelling argument that invalidates the "she did something dumb, she got lucky" argument
I live in Las Vegas
Worked for multiple casinos, consulted for them and the state gaming commission
The state regulates how casinos can run poker games. They consider it gambling. But I because you know more than them too.
I called it gambling because it involves chance, money is bet, and.....the biggest gambling area in the country defines it as much.
You can rely on the "I know more that you" schtick all you want though.
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I must say it is weird y'all poker dudes use so many bad probabilities analogies
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That's not an analogy, the situation was literally a coin flip.
53/47 equity = coin flip in poker, pretty basic stuff.
You keep trying to school me on poker, tho.
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Genuinely curious, what is this 53/47 coin flip notion in poker? A regular coin flip (not poker, nothing, just plain old take a coin out the pocket) its 50/50 and all based on luck.
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A true 50/50 in poker is pretty rare, so generally anything within 5% just gets called a flip.
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Explain this to me like im an idiot, cause I still have no idea what youre talking about.
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Famb I understand what she did. I think I knew enough about poker than research while people are mad to understand the situation
I'm just not buying you guys' outrage
It comes off like the "old white dudes that complain about the unwritten rules of baseball being broken"
If she gets exposed as a cheater, with actual proof, then my opinion will change.
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A coin flip is 50/50 like you said, all that means is that heads has 50% equity and
tails has 50% equity on each individual flip.
In this hand he has 53% equity and she has 47% equity.
He technically has 3% edge in this spot, but it's close enough to a 50/50 that it's just going to be called a flip.
You'd have to run that spot 10k times in order for that 3% equity to actually matter.
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For ppl who play it professionally poker isn't a game where actually gambling is looked well upon. Cuz its not really just gambling with skilled players.
Especially for those who take it seriously and lean more to the mathematical statistics side of them game.
Its not hard to get why that whole sequence is not looked at favorably as far as professionals go
Trying to make it about the winner of that pot gender is missing the point and its pretty lazy.
If it was a dude who did that the reactions would have most likely been worse. So suggesting its cuz she is a woman is even more false.
Also had that been done to one of the more popular players like Daniel Negreanu or Phil Hellmuth and its would've been a wild ridiculous reaction that would've lasted the rest of the night
The thing with poker is you either play the hand, pmay the numbers or play the player. Most play it with a combination of those 3. Playing the #s is the most sound way. Given how each round went from pre-flop to river she solely played the player. On top of that her explanation did not make sense.
The only thing really saves her from looking like a poor player is that she said she's done this to him before. If she played that with everybody she wouldn't make it the second day.
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You sexist swine!
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If professional poker players want to take issue because it breaks the norms of their profession they can go ahead.For ppl who play it professionally poker isn't a game where actually gambling is looked well upon. Cuz its not really just gambling with skilled players.
Especially for those who take it seriously and lean more to the mathematical statistics side of them game.
Its not hard to get why that whole sequence is not looked at favorably as far as professionals go
Trying to make it about the winner of that pot gender is missing the point and its pretty lazy.
If it was a dude who did that the reactions would have most likely been worse. So suggesting its cuz she is a woman is even more false.
Also had that been done to one of the more popular players like Daniel Negreanu or Phil Hellmuth and its would've been a wild ridiculous reaction that would've lasted the rest of the night
But it seems to have gone well beyond that point.
If a player flips his bat after a homerun, I understand why a pitcher or manager of the opposing team might be upset, but as a normal person/fan is not clutching my pearls over norm-breaking.
If there was cheating, and there is proof, I would understand the outrage. But until then a lot of this just seems like a lot of Chelsea boot creasing
