Fast and Furious Thread: Hobbs and Shaw Spin Off 2019 - Tyrese career ending injury

Excellent movie solid 7.4/8

Guess it was a lot of wrestling fans last night cause everyone went crazy when Rock executed his finishing move.

Great over the top action that we expect, comedy that was unintentionally great, beautiful cars, and the ending man caught me fight in the feels. Executed perfectly.

Interested to see where they take it from here.

And I almost got in trouble thanks to Missandei last night on my anniversary with the gf. But cot damn man she's a dime+99.
 
Grantland review

… And in the seventh part, they refused to die. Still. It’s true that two early scenes in Furious 7 occur at cemeteries. But by the second trip, Roman (Tyrese Gibson) makes everyone in his government-sponsored car club promise that this is it for graveyards, and it is. Two characters go tumbling down a mountain in an armored car, and a couple of scenes later are chatting on a beach. When one speeding car needs to deposit its hotly pursued passenger into another speeding car, the transfer requires each vehicle to swerve into a parallel formation so that the body can slip from one window through the other. (It took longer to type that than it did to watch.) A physicist might say of the deposited, “See you at the morgue.” But physics are to the Fast & Furious movies what term limits are to dictators: something to be flouted. That transfer is but one of the dozen or so incidents in this movie that drop your jaw, steal your breath, and make you want to say “I do.”

Characters, of course, have died in these films. They just don’t stay dead. And there’s a glorious soapiness to some of that. Furious 7 has Letty (Michelle Rodriguez) standing over her own grave, struggling to remember all the driving and snarling she’d previously done. She tells Dom (Vin Diesel) she needs time for self-rediscovery, which would seem to entail relearning that this bald, muscle-bound man with the Anthony Quinn mumbles is her husband.

This series has resurrected both itself — Installment 3 (the silly, slinky, hilariously homoerotic, and only modestly lucrative Tokyo Drift) had virtually nothing to do with Parts 1 and 2 — and Diesel’s career. But of all the phoenixes to rise from Fast & Furious rubble, none has been as uncanny as Paul Walker. In late 2013, he died in a car accident unrelated to the filming of this movie. His appearance as a fully integrated member of the narrative nonsense epitomizes movie magic. I, at least, can’t tell the real Walker from the digital composite. And that seems miraculous. There was a time when that lack of distinction between him and something less organically animate would mark the occasion for a joke. He was not a great actor. But these movies didn’t require that of him. They required the shine of an action star, and in this world, he shone.
Walker, of course, was the original centerpiece of these movies. In the first installment, he was the chill, white LAPD officer from whose point of view we were meant to see Dom’s multicultural ring of road-racing Los Angeles car thieves. He’d infiltrated the ring, and, by the first film’s end, he was in love with Dom’s sister, Mia (Jordana Brewster), and helping the gang elude capture. By the second installment, without Diesel, he was in a plot that narratively handcuffed him to Gibson, who plays an ex-con. They did white-guy-black-guy action comedy. The longer the series went on, the more racially and ethnically panoramic it became. By 2011’s Fast Five, without any self-congratulation and without demoting Walker, the point of view had expanded. He’d become an equal player in an action melodrama that was once primarily about him.

Fourteen years later, Walker’s Brian O’Conner is pressuring himself to abandon high-velocity vengeance. In a movie full of good gags and throwaway lines, the one of Walker revving the engine of what turns out to be a minivan traveling only 2 feet is the best. He and Mia are about to become parents again. The explosive arrival of Deckard Shaw (Jason Statham), the brother of the previous movie’s not-entirely-vanquished Eurobaddie (I’m telling you, this series doesn’t believe in death — or at least checking toe tags), puts Dom & Co. on the defensive. Shaw kills a member of Dom’s crew, narrowly misses taking out Dom, Brian, and Mia and their son, and hospitalizes the government security agent and Friend of Fast & Furious Luke Hobbs (Dwayne Johnson) in a classically impossible fight at Hobbs’s workplace. (The audience’s applause for the slamming of Statham through a glass coffee table was third only to the first close-up of Walker and the climactic shattering of an arm cast.)

The O’Conners are shipped to the Dominican Republic, to the compound of a guy played by the music star Romeo Santos. Dom wants Shaw as badly as Shaw wants him. But first, covert-operations muckety-muck Frank Petty (Kurt Russell) convinces Dom to rescue a hacker named Ramsey, who’s invented a global tracking device that — well, it does what such surveillance devices do in movies but with faster upload speeds. Petty has taken the trouble to assemble Dom’s team — Brian, Roman, Letty, and the engineer and technologist Tej (Ludacris) — and has given them free reign over the toys in his agency’s hangar-size emporium of military-industrial fun. This mission requires, via another crazy stunt, dropping onto a road in, of all places, the Caucasus Mountains for the thwarting of the African nut job (Djimon Hounsou) who wants the hacker and the tracker. Furious 7 is the writer Chris Morgan’s fifth of these movies. Hats off to his gonzo plotting and geo-racial sense of humor.

If Dom & Co. can rescue the hacker and retrieve the device, Petty will allow them to use it to catch and crush Shaw. Really, the frequency with which Shaw just arrives mid-action-sequence is very funny and extremely stupid. Apparently, Shaw’s tracking device is set to “Dom.” In any case, the chasing and running lead to the sand and skyscrapers of Abu Dhabi, then back to the streets of Los Angeles. In each city, the wanton, ovation-worthy demolition barely lets up.

You can spend a lifetime watching movies and see very little that approximates the craftsmanship and ingenuity of the stunt work in these films. When this series began, as The Fast & the Furious, visual logic and navigability were scarce. The first film got by on energy, freshness, and having pulled back a curtain on a microcosm that became a world that became a universe. It was an action film that crossed the “nothin’ but a good time” spirit of a beach movie with the turf-war menace of a biker gang. But by the second film, reinventing what an action sequence could do and be had become, and remains, a priority. For that sequence in the Caucasus, the team deploys evasive formations. In Los Angeles, they do lateral handoffs with a human being. Each sequence thrives on a careful mix of running plays and winging it. The corporeal and vehicular choreography, aided by some visual trickery, operates at a level of competency that raises the bar for an action sequence. When Brian and Dom go careering through all three Jumeirah at Etihad Towers, the looks on the faces of Diesel and Walker match the looks on ours.

Taking over for Justin Lin, the director James Wan moves here from the gotcha-horror galaxy (Saw, Insidious, The Conjuring). It’s a better fit than it might sound, since Wan has prioritized visual coherence in action sequences of every kind. He seems to know that a kind of clarity is the surest path to both suspense and surprise. Cameras are pinned to parachutes and tipping-over sofas. But all of that motion rarely results in clutter. The four credited editors settled on clean-looking assemblages of shots. All I want from an action sequence are camera angles wide enough to keep track of bodies and cars (and choppers and drones, as the case is here), and editing that doesn’t feel as if it’s doing all the work. In these movies, you can see the orchestration in the stunts. They’ve been worked out and considered, not discovered — rescued, really — in editing.

Some of the editing is just playful. The first time Diesel and Statham go driving head-on at each other (there are at least three), the film cuts rapidly from Diesel’s face to Statham’s, so that you can’t tell them apart. It’s a hugely ejaculatory moment. These bald men are plowing toward one another, but the screen makes them look like two testicles about to blow. Does it strain plausibility that Letty could hold off the high-octane arm-and-leg work of Ronda Rousey and that Brian could go forearm-to-forearm with Tony Jaa twice and live to tell? It does, indeed. But that’s just part of the magic. In Dubai, cars fly, a character played by Tyrese can’t sing, and when Johnson, who still gets the best lines and is more tanklike than ever, is laid up, his hospital stay fails to reveal that he’s actually a T-800. More light magic. It’s the heavier variety that sticks with you, like when the main cast looks on as Brian frolics with his wife and son. It’s a happy, strangely moving occasion, since the underlying message and ensuing montage is clear: The séance must conclude. If there are to be more of these films, Walker won’t be in them. But these compose a kind of afterlife. His character’s decision to trade one family for another gives the movie an unexpected gravitas. Who would have thought that a series addicted to the high of movement could also summon a solemnity that leaves you moved?
 
At the theaters now. Man what a horrible movie. Can't wait til its over. It's like I'm watching a cartoon. Movie is made for viewers age 11 to 18. The dialogue is so cliche.
 
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At the theaters now. Man what a horrible movie. Can't wait til its over. It's like I'm watching a cartoon. Movie is made for viewers age 11 to 18. The dialogue is so cliche. Why can't they just shoot Shaw. Like when he was eating. Just shoot him.
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Teamlakers909 said:
At the theaters now. Man what a horrible movie. Can't wait til its over. It's like I'm watching a cartoon. Movie is made for viewers age 11 to 18. The dialogue is so cliche. Why can't they just shoot Shaw. Like when he was eating. Just shoot him.
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Wow this thing just gets worse and worse. Ramsay just jumped from one car window to another car going at least 60. Wow
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Blocked, you say some dumb **** in the laker thread, this has to take the cake.
 
Not the best of the franchise but far from the worst.

Can't wait for dudes who hated 1-6 to post about how bad 7 was...
 
NTfam, save me the wait.

Should I stick around after the credits for another scene?



-Drew
 
Was well done tribute for the ending. Can't say it didn't bring tears to my eyes. Can't wait for the blu-ray. Will watch it again when the rip comes out.
 
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Nope. The "For Paul" tribute is the end and it's perfect. This movie is definitely the end of the Dom/Buster saga, so any future films should just start fresh from the beginning of the movie instead of a teaser at the end of this one.
 
909 area codes got something in their drinking water that makes them well....you guys see.

Movie was good. Great ending. Had me tearing up
 
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Furious 7 Review

With spoilers, so read only after you have viewed the film for yourself.

Loved it. Absolutely nailed the mark. James Wan deserves so many props for what he has done for this franchise, starting with Tokyo Drift.

Despite the tragic loss of Paul, and obviously having to re-write the script to accommodate, they put out a tremendous film, even tho I think Fast 6 will go down as the cleanest/tightest film of the 7.

The start of the film had just a few hiccups where I think they had to adjust the script and it hurt the pace of the film overall. For instance, Letty’s whole spiel about runnin off, the poor usage of Race Wars, Iggy, etc. Fast 6 was a PERFECT start and jump into the story, this one took a couple false steps before it settled into its groove. When Kurt Russell was introduced, the story took off and we were on our way.

Russell truly surprised me. I didn’t see him fitting this franchise, and the entire time, I was waiting for him to double cross them and be the Gina Carano heel turn, and he never did. He was true to his word, and I loved that. He was much better than I expected, and I hope we see him again in Fast 8 when that comes out. (and we all know it will. )

Tyrese was great as the comedic relief as usual. They use him so well for the story. Him bein a little ***** in the airplane, them bein ready for that and blowin his chute anyway :rofl: Him floating around while they work, all of it was just hilarity.

The mountain/parachute scene was Fast & Furious legend status. :wow: :pimp: Absolutely great over the top yet somehow still semi believable even tho there is no damn way any of that is workin out as clean as they pulled it off. For this franchise, it looks like taking a simple right hand turn into a drive thru. Well shot, well executed, just another great scene we’ve come to expect from this franchise.

Paul Walker doin work on that bus against Tony Jaa. :pimp:

The scene of Transporter walkin thru the hospital after seein his brother was fantastic. I was laughin the whole time at all the carnage. Only thing I’m worried about is the timing. I assume that scene was to have taken place “years ago” as Owen Shaw was still beat to hell in the hospital, yet Jack was obviously several years older when Shaw came after them. I’m not sure if I read into that right, but that’s my assumption. It would also help explain Han’s life in Tokyo and his entanglement with the Ya Kuza. Otherwise the hospital scene wouldn’t make sense if Owen is still bruised all to hell 3-4 years later.

Brian steppin on the gas, revin the engine, to pull up 2 inches in the minivan. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Excellent background detail on the story, to begin explaining Brian leaving the life in the end. Having Mia be pregnant again, Dom telling him how great he’s been to her, and taking care of his nephew, etc. Smartly played, and opens the door for them having Brian’s brother Caleb included in Fast 8 when the time comes. Brian and Mia can take off and leave, and they can always have Mia make a cameo or something, especially since she isn’t in this one much anyways.

The Hobbs fight with Transporter was :wow: :wow: :wow: :pimp: Good freaking Lord Rock was ripped to **** :smh: But that was a helluva fight.

Elsa’s hair tho. :smh:

Love the way they handled the Tokyo people, this franchise knows, and understands its roots, and they handled that very well imo.

Really liked the way Hobbs sent for Dom, and the exchange in the hospital, meeting his daughter, the pain meds joke, etc. All excellent stuff. :lol:

Quite possibly my favorite scene, ever in any Furious movie, was Dom simply lifting the car. :rofl: :rofl: I have to have someone help me open the trunk, and dude just LIFTED. A. Car. Brian: “You got this right?” :rofl: :rofl: That is the most Fast & Furious thing ever, the way they even took a sec to poke fun at themselves for him lifting a car just to grab a thumbdrive. :lol:

Giving Tej his shining moment to drop dude like nothin. :wow: :pimp:

Car jumping from building to building to building. :lol: No brakes, like he was gonna use them anyways. :lol: :smh:

Statham as Shaw was the more bad *** of all the villians they’ve gone against, but Owen Shaw’s TEAM was easily the best grouping they’ve used in the franchise. Not to mention still having Han and Gisele added to the cast as a whole as well. Like I said, I love what they did with 7, but open to close, Fast 6 is just the most technically complete film in the series, with all the necessary parts, best overall threat in terms of team vs team rather than just the one man crew who was absolutely dangerous, but only matched up with Hobbs and Dom the whole time.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Dom driving a car off a cliff, but first having to do a few donuts to make some dust.

The Letty/Rousey fight was pretty good, but not as good as the Letty/Carano fight.

So, at Race Wars, when they completely wasted my time show Iggy for 3 seconds to sound and look absurd, the chick that started the race, the one that they took the camera up, and thru her, multiple times, like, we pretty much gave ol girl a cleansing we was so high up in that. That was a smidge strange. They always use the bikini girls for the races and what not, we’ve come to expect that, but I didn’t know we would all become gynecologists for this one. Remember the camera angles they used to use to show the fuel traveling thru the cars? I thought we were gonna run up thru her like that for a second, show her kidney’s, travel on up thru the lungs, heartbeat, larynx, and then out her mouth back into the view of the cars. :lol: :lol: :lol: Good Lord they overdid that one. Another part of me sittin there for a sec like, ????

I seen a drone in downtown LA, a helicopter launchin missiles, dude with a machine gun lighting up said helicopter, multiple cars speedin thru city streets like nothing, what we get, 2 cop cars, maybe 3? Perfect. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yo, they door slid down half a building of stairs. And it was AWESOME. :lol:

Stompin your foot on the asphalt should never be the end to a great fight. That needed to be re-looked at.

We stopped CPR, so we could whisper in his ear, and that brought him back to life. Ok.

Really liked the married reveal. Well done on that part at least, and hopefully closes the whole Letty inner turmoil stuff. I didn’t like that she took off, and Russell of all people brings her back for the mountain attack.

Loved the film, 6 is till currently my favorite in the series, just a notch ahead of this one, 7.8/8

Lookin forward to 8, you know it’s coming, we all do, it will likely be here in 2017 or maybe 2018. But it’s a no brainer, this movie is going to get HUGE money, maybe 300+ mil, and great reviews from everyone. My work alone is abuzz right now, and I’m the only one that saw it last night. Yet everyone has plans this weekend, and none of these people have ever spoken of a single one of the films before. They just all know. 8 will come, and it will continue the legacy.


The final scene. Perfection. Breathtaking. Absolutely wonderfully done. That was not Dom, that was Vin. That was not Letty, that was Michelle. That was not Roman, that was Tyrese. That was not Tej, that was Luda. Brilliantly done. Michelle was the key to me. Letty doesn’t tear up like that, Michelle does. And that’s when I needed to gulp down real hard. :lol: We alllllllll knew it was coming, but when it was there, it hurt. The final ride, the splitting of the lanes, the Dom speech at the end. My God, that was perfect. When you think about it, it’s about as real as it gets too, because you know that really was Caleb, and they really had to film that, knowing what it was and what it meant. That’s why it came off so damn real. One of the greatest scenes in the franchise. Tip of the cap to everyone involved in that, the writers, Wan, the actors, actresses, Paul’s family, everyone. Job well done.


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Went and found my Fast 6 review from another thread. Crazy how tonally different it was before Paul. :frown:

What a joyride. The opening scene bringing in all 5 movies to "catch you up" so to speak. So well done.

The drive for Dom and Brian to get to the baby, PERFECT way to open the movie. The two stars racing down the road, brilliant open.

This franchise knows where its bread is buttered, hot cars, and hot chicks lookin hot, but they never oversex the women in these movies, that said, that was tremendous side boob action layin next to Dom. Thanks for that. :lol:
On the real, women in movies get jack ****. Unless Tarantino does it, women get horrible roles, just reduced to eye candy, or on their backs with their legs in the air. The Fast/Furious franchise has chicks that don't cry every 3 minutes, or fight over boys, or any of that, they do their own work. They carry their weight. They do what the men do, look good doin it, but don't have to be all dolled up with makeup and push up bras. They won't be winnin oscars, but they have roles that most women would kill for. They get to be "real", well, at least realer than most real women roles. Give credit where it's do.

All that said, what in the **** is happening to Jordana Brewster? :smh: Girl was fire, now she is looking horrific. :lol:

Gina was a BRILLIANT add. Can't say enough about her. I don't give a damn about her performance, her fighting/toughness was perfect, just as Rock was for Five. The reveal was excellent as well. Son of a gun they got me on that one. Her fight with Michelle was incredible.

The jokes. :wow: :rofl: Rock opening up the vending machine for a millionaire had me in tears. The baby oil/forehead jokes. The way Luda spit out his drink at the end. :rofl: Tyrese breakin down the equals and callin the blonde chick Brian. :lol: :lol: :lol: So freaking well done. That's humor. That's well done humor, something that Iron Man 3 couldn't grasp.

People that complain about the over the topness and then hype a billionaire flying in a tin can or another billionaire wearing a rubber suit need to take their *** elsewhere. There's more of a chance of a big strong dude catchin his girl in mid air and landing on a car than there is of Bill Gates in his prime driving a hummer at night with cape and cowl on. Give that complaint a ******g rest already. Or maybe you all thought the yellow camaro really was a robot. Shut the hell up already.

My absolute favorite part of this movie, and I hope you all caught it. When Shaw speaks of his brother, and says his brother taught him one thing, you have to have a code.......... :nerd: Yeah, that was a checkmate move in a game of connect four. Absolutely dug that. Don't nobody try to spin me that was random. No, it wasn't. I don't even care if Lin himself says it was by chance, he's lying.

Shaw was outstanding. :pimp: Best bad guy by far. Liked his performance, his action, his dialogue, everything. Great job by him.

Braga and the cop from 4, welcome back. Liked that, continues with everything else, they bring back everybody.

Brian cryin a lot in prison. I wasn't getting why his eyes were watering the whole time, dude tryin to take Lety on his soul or some ****, that coulda been toned down, but Walker needs to do something to prove he's awake. :lol: That said, I always like Brian in these, he does right. His code is the same as Dom's, just from another vantage point. Loved the fight when he said he wished the door wasn't between him, and then it wasn't. :lol:

Han and Tyrese getting their ***** whooped. :lol: Really good.

The fight scene on the plane was solid, but a bit haphazard, I can't complain tho. They surely were on the worlds largest runway, I thought the plane might run outta gas for a second there. :lol:

Cars they drive have 91 gears or something, cuz I'm pretty sure if you shift 14 times, you're playin a video game. I joke because it's all in fun, it's the whole point, he's admitting that they over the top that, but it's about fast cars, and the need to show just how fast it might be. That's a camera way of doing it. *shrugs*

Dom was Dom. Man of few words, thankfully. His talk with Lety before Shaw showed up was a bit awkward.

Great to have Michelle back. I was never big on here in the first one, or any of her other work, but she's growing on me. Swat was the only thing I ever liked her in early on. But I am glad she's back.

Really liked the scene where they break down Shaw's crew and what they were rollin in. How they all rattled off info and had Rock and Gina sittin there impressed, skills showin out, I liked that. It's why he brought them in rather than a bunch of dorky cops or FBI nerds. Great scene.

Absolutely can not wait to see what they do with 7. But how are they going to beat Transporter, has anyone seen that dude fight? :lol: He makes Shaw and the other guy that kicked Han and Roman's *** look like girl scouts. Dom's crew has no one that can match those fighting skills. That's gonna be interesting.

6 is going to do HUGE numbers. I went to 2 theaters, lines out the doors, my theatre was PACKED, they are going to make a TON. And everyone left happy. So 7 is paid for. When that's done, how do they not make an 8? How will they stop the series? I find this interesting.

This is very similar to Lethal Weapon in the way they pull in the characters for more and more movies, and keep adding to the cast and don't lose anything. Everyone got shine. Everyone got scenes, chases, fights, humor, etc. I don't feel like anyone was left out, outside of the female cop and Mia, but those 2 were understandable. (tho I did miss Omar and the other guy.)

I wasn't ready to see Gisele go. That hurt, a lot. I know she isn't in Drift, so it had to be done, but it broke my heart. Love her character, loved her and Han as a duo, sad she had to go.

Is white kid from Drift going to be in 7? He sorta has to be, right? I mean, he met Dom. He wants to help avenge Han. They have to bring him back, right?

Really liked the last scene with Rock and Dom. I don't know why, but I love when the hardcore good guy can respect the crook when they have to work together. No clue why, but always love that angle. And they pulled it off perfectly. I thought they did well with that in Five, this just hammered it home. I hope Rock stays in for 7, tho I don't know if he'll be needed.

Fast Five was so much fun, such a blast in the theatre, rewatchable, everything you could ask for. And 6 is more. A lot MORE. It is everything the series has with extra Nos suped up thru it. My wife don't give a **** about this franchise, and she loved it, my daughter loved it, everyone in the theatre with me was cheering and ooohing and aaahhing, and went nuts when they saw Transporter. One chick went "well f***" :lol: Couldn't have said it any better myself.

K, it's 2 AM, I'm going to try and sleep somehow now.

9.5/10
 
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