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Originally Posted by TraPpStar
Ridiculous. Dude should've lost his license but there's no way he should be criminally responsible for his death. MJ was a grown man and made the conscious decision to take copious amounts of medicine.
^ This. As doctors they are held to a higher standard. That's why they get paid what they get paid.Originally Posted by kdawg
Originally Posted by TraPpStar
Ridiculous. Dude should've lost his license but there's no way he should be criminally responsible for his death. MJ was a grown man and made the conscious decision to take copious amounts of medicine.
Yeah, but it is the doctor's job to know what's best for the patient - you shouldn't be able to go to your doctor and say that you'd like some med you've heard is good - that's not what they'e for. What he did was gross negligence.
Let's be serious here. Do you appreciate the caliber of retainer payment Mike was paying to this man? Dude was replaceable at a snap of a finger. Mike utilized his finances and influence to control this dude's hand. Is that professionally negligent? Yes, and he should have lost his licensed and been forbidden from practicing medicine. However, Mike obviously leveraged his status to force the doctor to give him the amount of drugs he desired. You don't think the doctor advised against it when Mike more than likely made repeated demands for more medication? Blasphemous. Mike killed himself by using his wealth and status to control the amount of prescription medicine he received. Any doctor would have been susceptible to Mike's influence considering that Mike would have fired them and went to another doctor that acquiesced to his demands. Succombing to these demands is the definition of professional negligence but Mike was the real culprit here. You can skate on a technicality if you desire but it's so patently obvious that this man is the scapegoat. And, yes, he was negligent but the DA should have never pressed charges because his negligence was far from volitional.Originally Posted by cguy610
^ This. As doctors they are held to a higher standard. That's why they get paid what they get paid.Originally Posted by kdawg
Originally Posted by TraPpStar
Ridiculous. Dude should've lost his license but there's no way he should be criminally responsible for his death. MJ was a grown man and made the conscious decision to take copious amounts of medicine.
Yeah, but it is the doctor's job to know what's best for the patient - you shouldn't be able to go to your doctor and say that you'd like some med you've heard is good - that's not what they'e for. What he did was gross negligence.
Originally Posted by BronLe
SMH This dude is getting time because the world wants someone to blame for the death of the most famous pop star ever.
IMO Mike asked for the drugs, and got the drugs. It's honestly his own fault.
I'm not discounting his negligence. I just think it's ridiculous to ignore the disparate circumstances of wealth and power in this situation. Ignoring the harsh reality of confluence is being slightly naive and disingenuous. Yes, the doctor had a role in this affair but his role was not something that derived from independent behavior that was a product of his own doing, which should be the basis of imposing criminal charges on someone. His negligence was a product of MJ's considerable influence, and for this, I do not think criminal charges are appropriate. There's a reason doctors and lawyers have licensing boards that internally handle disciplinary actions. This situation could have been sufficiently resolved in that structure.Originally Posted by kdawg
"Advising against it" still isn't enough - and it's not about the money - that's not why a doctor has to behave ethically - it's because that's what their profession is about. That's why there are laws and oversight and you hear about people being stripped of their licence - because it's important that doctors only act in the best interests of their patient.
It is disappointing that the $150k a month clearly changed his judgment - and now he pays the consequences.
I disagree that any doctor would have done that too - sure, some would (like any profession or job there are always going to be those who just do what they want) but most will choose to do what is right.
Someone died because of his action or lack of action - I don't know what's more negligent than that.
Originally Posted by kdawg
"Advising against it" still isn't enough - and it's not about the money - that's not why a doctor has to behave ethically - it's because that's what their profession is about. That's why there are laws and oversight and you hear about people being stripped of their licence - because it's important that doctors only act in the best interests of their patient.
It is disappointing that the $150k a month clearly changed his judgment - and now he pays the consequences.
I disagree that any doctor would have done that too - sure, some would (like any profession or job there are always going to be those who just do what they want) but most will choose to do what is right.
Someone died because of his action or lack of action - I don't know what's more negligent than that.
Originally Posted by cguy610
^ This. As doctors they are held to a higher standard. That's why they get paid what they get paid.Originally Posted by kdawg
Originally Posted by TraPpStar
Ridiculous. Dude should've lost his license but there's no way he should be criminally responsible for his death. MJ was a grown man and made the conscious decision to take copious amounts of medicine.
Yeah, but it is the doctor's job to know what's best for the patient - you shouldn't be able to go to your doctor and say that you'd like some med you've heard is good - that's not what they'e for. What he did was gross negligence.
Originally Posted by BronLe
Lol at Murray getting time
But Casey Anthony chillin with martinis somewhere...
Murray was doing his job...
Anthony killed an innocent child...
Dat Justice System Flaw
Originally Posted by BronLe
Lol at Murray getting time
But Casey Anthony chillin with martinis somewhere...
Murray was doing his job...
Anthony killed an innocent child...
Dat Justice System Flaw
Just say no.Originally Posted by TraPpStar
Let's be serious here. Do you appreciate the caliber of retainer payment Mike was paying to this man? Dude was replaceable at a snap of a finger. Mike utilized his finances and influence to control this dude's hand. Is that professionally negligent? Yes, and he should have lost his licensed and been forbidden from practicing medicine. However, Mike obviously leveraged his status to force the doctor to give him the amount of drugs he desired. You don't think the doctor advised against it when Mike more than likely made repeated demands for more medication? Blasphemous. Mike killed himself by using his wealth and status to control the amount of prescription medicine he received. Any doctor would have been susceptible to Mike's influence considering that Mike would have fired them and went to another doctor that acquiesced to his demands. Succombing to these demands is the definition of professional negligence but Mike was the real culprit here. You can skate on a technicality if you desire but it's so patently obvious that this man is the scapegoat. And, yes, he was negligent but the DA should have never pressed charges because his negligence was far from volitional.Originally Posted by cguy610
^ This. As doctors they are held to a higher standard. That's why they get paid what they get paid.Originally Posted by kdawg
Yeah, but it is the doctor's job to know what's best for the patient - you shouldn't be able to go to your doctor and say that you'd like some med you've heard is good - that's not what they'e for. What he did was gross negligence.
Originally Posted by omgitswes
I must of been living under a rock because I had no idea dude was even on trial
very curious this theyOriginally Posted by sillyputty
Complex case. There was a lot riding on this and I feel like they felt like "someone had to pay" for this.
Conrad is the fall-guy.