*sigh*[quote name="CP"][quote name="Mr Marcus"]Funny the game Kobe stopped being an assist man they get ran over
What game are you watching?
Kobe pass to Ron open 3, miss.
Kobe pass to Meeks corner 3, miss.
Kobe re-pass to open Meeks corner 3, miss.
Kobe pass to open Nash 3, miss.
Kobe pass to Jamison at the rim, blocked.
Dude would have about 7-8 assists only he has zero.
But he stopped passing. Yeah, that's what a box score says.
Ska, hope you see this post.[/quote]We are never going to agree on Kobe. Why did you hope I saw this post? So you can get even more frustrated w/ me after reading my response? What, you thought I would respond that he still had an obvious commitment to dropping dimes?
I would say that... if he did.
You don't get 14 assists by 14 passes and 14 made shots on 14 assist attempts. There were still about a half dozen miscues between Kobe & teammates in those games.
Those four games where Kobe averaged nearly a triple double, his focus was absolutely more on facilitating then than it is now.
Getting assists doesn't come from perfect teammates; it comes from a commitment to team basketball and fluid ball movement despite imerfect teammates.
The unfortunate thing for me is that you baited me into a response, and now people are going to respond to this response by saying that I'm blaming this all on Kobe; they're not going to read this whole response, and I fully expect at least a couple replies along the lines of "I can't believe people are pinning this on Kobe."
I did, however, mention a week ago that the transition from Kobe Johnson back to Kobe... Bryant... would be gradual, not overnight. He has gone from having 10-15 FGA & 10-15 dimes... to 21 FGA & 9 dimes the night I said that... to tonight, 15 FGA & 0 dimes.*
That was cute, though, the Magic Mamba stuff. Good times.
* In my own defense, I will give him credit for showing restraint in the shooting department. 15 FGA is completely acceptable; hell, I'd go so far as to say he should have shot more.
My qualm isn't... actually, I don't even have a qualm; I'm just responding to you mentioning me...
Sure, he should have finished the game with at least 1 assist. But hell, if you're not going to get any dimes but you're only going to shoot 15 times as a starting 2 guard, that's definitely not even close to chucking or ball hogging, and the loss is definitely not on him... HOWEVA... if he would have been Magic Mamba, I think the score would've been closer, and maybe we win. It's not on him that we lost, but I do think he could have found a way to make his teammates better and pull out the W.
Ah hell, I'm just trying to avoid ticking you guys off because I didn't say "What? That dude is stupid. Kobe was passing like crazy!" but I know that's inevitable, so have at it. [/quote]
I'm not trying to convert you, never was. You at least discuss and work thru things, others on this board just hate and have zero clue what they are even talking about.
14, 14, 14 was a good point, but you forget one last piece. If/when Kobe is passing for the open shot, and they hit them, it begets more passing, right?
You feed Ron if he's hitting 5 outta 10 shots. If he's 1 for 10, pretty good idea to stop givin him the open shot.
I pointed out multiple passes Kobe made, almost all in the first half (while the game was still close) and they would not make them.
So in Q 3, Kobe tries to bridge the gap, do his scoring, keep the game close, hope the guys wake up and they can make a run. Nobody joined him.
Do you know how many times I have seen that over the years?
And do you know where? Not, LA. And that's part of the point. At home, everybody feels good, go their fans, people cheerin ya, everyone's great. On the road, that's where they break your will, your spirit, that shows who you truly are.
Remember 2010 game 5, in Boston? Chance to take a 3-2 lead, in the Finals, NOBODY showed up that game, cept one. That guy made like 8-9 shots straight, not one miss, almost 20 straight points, keepin his team alive, fighting his balls off, had Wade shakin his head drinkin his water. The Celtics lead only grew. In the end, he was dead, GAVE the ball to other Lakers, I'm tapped, ya'll need to help, come on. Hadn't missed a shot yet, wasn't like he was 4-14 or something, he hadn't missed a single shot. The team was nowhere to be found. Scared, wilted, the moment was too big.
Come home for game 6, at home, every one of them showed out. Looked like a preseason game out there. Flashy, smilin, havin a good time, just runnin around playin.
You need killers. You know it, I know it.
Last night, how many killers you see out there?
Jamison was getting TORCHED by Jeff Green, dude that had heart surgery.
Earl Clark and his young legs, 6-10 freak athlete, getting ABUSED by old, slow, fat Paul Pierce.
Dwight, no question wasn't there. He mentally never came to the game. Probably feels uncomfortable health wise right now, I won't beat him up too bad right now.
Kobe gave them the ball, he fed them, wide open looks. None dropped. Zero. Keep feeding them? Why?
Kobe got hot, and tried again to carry the team, bridge them to the 4th, make a run hopefully. He was 9-14 (the one 3 he shot, don't count man, it was a 75 footer to end the first Q) At one point in the third, he was 3-3, the rest 2-7. Those 2 were Nash shots that Nash created himself. Kobe scored and scored, 13 in the Q, the Celtics lead only got bigger. No one defended no one. As I said, the Celts were abusing the Laker D.
1 guy came to play, 11 others were too weak to play in the moment, in Boston. Hopefully, they play harder/better/smarter in Miami. If they make shots, Kobe will get them shots. If they don't, he'll adjust, and do what he can to try and steal a game. He's done it his whole career.
This year, Nash, Pau, Dwight, all hurt. Missing time, bad play, benched, all of it. Kobe will play his 17th year, right now at 27, 5 and 5. All NBA. Could play 80 games if he wants, and you know who is going to take the hit for this season? Him. The one that plays every game, elite level at 34, more mileage than any player on the roster in terms of games/minutes at the NBA level.
They're already circling. It's all going to go on Kobe's shoulders. He failed. Can't get his team to the playoffs. Ruined the team, etc. Haters delight.