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[airmaxpenny1]

Originally Posted by bballah3

He doesn't have any stock at all so Minny trading him make any sense. He will get killed over here. This 2009 draft that Minnesota had is easily the worst draft by any team in the history of sports.

Your hate for the Minnesota organazation is so strong

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Originally Posted by bballah3

He doesn't have any stock at all so Minny trading him make any sense. He will get killed over here. This 2009 draft that Minnesota had is easily the worst draft by any team in the history of sports.

Your hate for the Minnesota organazation is so strong

 

[recycledpaper]

Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

Originally Posted by recycledpaper

Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

That's a robbery. Plus why would Minny want Curry now when they already passed up on him in the draft?

I'd rather them give up Beasely before Love.

lol what? love > super cool beas

I'm not sure what you don't understand. I just said I'd rather them give up Beasely BEFORE Love. As in trade Beasely instead of Love. Don't know how to be more clear.

o ok my bad. i thought you were for the trade on the warriors end and wanted beasley instead of love.

 

[recycledpaper]

Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

Originally Posted by recycledpaper

Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

That's a robbery. Plus why would Minny want Curry now when they already passed up on him in the draft?

I'd rather them give up Beasely before Love.

lol what? love > super cool beas

I'm not sure what you don't understand. I just said I'd rather them give up Beasely BEFORE Love. As in trade Beasely instead of Love. Don't know how to be more clear.

o ok my bad. i thought you were for the trade on the warriors end and wanted beasley instead of love.

 

[pdouly33]

Originally Posted by bballah3

He doesn't have any stock at all so Minny trading him make any sense. He will get killed over here. This 2009 draft that Minnesota had is easily the worst draft by any team in the history of sports.

 
It's definitely up there.

 

[pdouly33]

Originally Posted by bballah3

He doesn't have any stock at all so Minny trading him make any sense. He will get killed over here. This 2009 draft that Minnesota had is easily the worst draft by any team in the history of sports.

 
It's definitely up there.

 

[ballinsam23]

Originally Posted by pdouly33

Originally Posted by bballah3

He doesn't have any stock at all so Minny trading him make any sense. He will get killed over here. This 2009 draft that Minnesota had is easily the worst draft by any team in the history of sports.

 
It's definitely up there.

At what they potentially could have had with those 3 picks smh

 

[ballinsam23]

Originally Posted by pdouly33

Originally Posted by bballah3

He doesn't have any stock at all so Minny trading him make any sense. He will get killed over here. This 2009 draft that Minnesota had is easily the worst draft by any team in the history of sports.

 
It's definitely up there.

At what they potentially could have had with those 3 picks smh

 

[josednk1068]

looking back at it 2009 was a weak draft class  

 

[josednk1068]

looking back at it 2009 was a weak draft class  

 

[abc]

^ The thing is, though, that label isn't far from the truth 

 

[abc]

^ The thing is, though, that label isn't far from the truth 

 

[jpzx]

[h2]Rubio could sign with the Wolves next season?[/h2]

Posted by Royce Young

Via The Pioneer Press, there's a chance Ricky Rubio could finally join the Minnesota Timverwolves. A chance. Better than where things have stood before though. 
"A little birdie says the Minnesota Timberwolveshave received word from Rubio's family that he's open to signing withthem for next season -- if there is a season," the report says.

I really don't know what else to add to that. It's probably unlikelythat he does sign with the Wolves. Of course he's "open" to it. Heck, I'm open to signing with the Wolves next year.

But this is at least some sign of encouragment on the Rubio front for the Wolves. Lately it was really looking like Rubio had no interest in coming over any time soon. So the fact he might at least be open to it is progress. 

The lockout situation is the biggest hangup to everything because ofcourse Rubio has no reason to come over if there's no basketball. He'lljust stay right where he's at and keep making money and playing.

It's best for Rubio to certainly take his time in figuring out whathe wants to do. The Wolves spent their No. 5 overall pick on him in2009, so they want him. David Kahn has always been adament aboutwanting him. But it might just take a little more time. 

There was talk of Rubio not ever wanting to play with Minnesota, soagain, if this report is true, Wolves fans (and Kahn) have to beencouraged. Rubio was a pretty big risk to take and not many expectedhim to balk at coming over. Then again, not many expected Kahn to spendhis next pick on another point guard either.

Rubio has always held the cards in this situation and it's up to himwhen he's ready. He's just 20 years old though. He has a longbasketball career ahead of him still and he's in no rush to make a rashdecision. Obviously.


Link

 

[jpzx]

[h2]Rubio could sign with the Wolves next season?[/h2]

Posted by Royce Young

Via The Pioneer Press, there's a chance Ricky Rubio could finally join the Minnesota Timverwolves. A chance. Better than where things have stood before though. 
"A little birdie says the Minnesota Timberwolveshave received word from Rubio's family that he's open to signing withthem for next season -- if there is a season," the report says.

I really don't know what else to add to that. It's probably unlikelythat he does sign with the Wolves. Of course he's "open" to it. Heck, I'm open to signing with the Wolves next year.

But this is at least some sign of encouragment on the Rubio front for the Wolves. Lately it was really looking like Rubio had no interest in coming over any time soon. So the fact he might at least be open to it is progress. 

The lockout situation is the biggest hangup to everything because ofcourse Rubio has no reason to come over if there's no basketball. He'lljust stay right where he's at and keep making money and playing.

It's best for Rubio to certainly take his time in figuring out whathe wants to do. The Wolves spent their No. 5 overall pick on him in2009, so they want him. David Kahn has always been adament aboutwanting him. But it might just take a little more time. 

There was talk of Rubio not ever wanting to play with Minnesota, soagain, if this report is true, Wolves fans (and Kahn) have to beencouraged. Rubio was a pretty big risk to take and not many expectedhim to balk at coming over. Then again, not many expected Kahn to spendhis next pick on another point guard either.

Rubio has always held the cards in this situation and it's up to himwhen he's ready. He's just 20 years old though. He has a longbasketball career ahead of him still and he's in no rush to make a rashdecision. Obviously.


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[Deleted member 38182]

Because there will be a lockout next season.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Because there will be a lockout next season.

 

[mronegative]

Masterplan...

 He just needs to nail K.Love to re-sign.
Every time I see Kahn...

I think of the PS3 guy.

 

[mronegative]

Masterplan...

 He just needs to nail K.Love to re-sign.
Every time I see Kahn...

I think of the PS3 guy.

 

[pmatic]

To Improve, Rubio Needs to Come to N.B.A.

Outside of the N.B.A., the Euroleague is the best basketball in the world. For Ricky Rubio to lead a team of F.C. Barcelona’s caliber, at age 20, is a tremendous accomplishment. But he may have learned all he can by playing professionally in Spain, and if basketball is his first priority, it’s time to come to the N.B.A.

That is not to say that Rubio, who was selected fifth in the 2009 draft by the Timberwolves, has not improved in Spain. The professional polish shows in his game. He has acquired a skill set that would be hard to develop in the A.A.U.-dominated American development system. He’s a pass-first guy. He’s polished coming off the pick and roll. His awareness of help defense and defensive schemes is extremely advanced.
All of these skills were on display when F.C. Barcelona, last season’s champion, was eliminated from the Euroleague playoffs, with a 78-67 loss against Panathinaikos B.C. on Thursday. In smoky and packed Olympic Stadium, Rubio was asked to fill a variety of roles. He chased the former University of Maryland star Drew Nicholas around screens as if he were Reggie Miller. He denied the Panathinaikos linchpin Dimitris Diamantidis and often kept him from even catching the ball. On offense he initiated Barcelona’s sets, made quick outlets, and fed the post smoothly and without effort.

None of this is to say that Rubio had a good basketball game. In 29 minutes, he shot 1-of-5 from the field, with 3 points, 3 assists and 3 turnovers. He found himself on the bench for most of the last three minutes.

Worse than a poor individual performance, Rubio appears to have settled into a role that emphasizes his weaknesses. He was doing everything his coaches were asking of him; they just weren’t asking very much. The role of a point guard for Barcelona is to initiate the offense and run the pick and roll. Gone was the open court vision for which Rubio is known. Barcelona rarely looked to push the ball, and when it did, Panathinaikos simply took a non-shooting foul to slow down the pace.

Make no mistake about it, Rubio has trouble scoring. He can’t shoot and he doesn’t even look to score around the basket. But he’s a tremendously gifted passer. That was evident even with the shackles Barcelona had on him. His skip passes against Panathinaikos’ pack-the-paint defense were quick and in the shooter’s pocket. He knew when he wanted to get the ball into the post and where his teammates liked to catch it. He got the ball out and up the court easily, blessed with that gift of just knowing where his teammates are, rather than having to look for them.

In the Euroleague, playing at a snails pace and surrounded by average athleticism, Rubio’s inability to score is more important than his ability to set up his teammates. It’s why Barcelona had him sitting at the conclusion of its season-ending loss. He’s an offensive liability. Worse still, he does not even have to make plays. He can just initiate the offense in the half-court, often never to see the ball again in a possession. He can’t learn that way.

It’s easy to see how his game would be different in the N.B.A. If the ball was in his hands on the fast break, or longer in the half court, he would have to finish plays, not initiate them. At first this might mean assists to gifted teammates, but teams would adjust and it would ultimately require learning how to score. He is not getting that opportunity to develop within the Barcelona’s system.

For those looking for an American comparison, it’s best to forget Pete Maravich or Steve Nash. Rubio will never be a legendary scorer like Maravich, or a drop-dead shooter like Nash. The better comparison is Celtics guard Rajon Rondo. Like Rondo, Rubio is at his best in the open floor, when his lack of shooting does not clutter the floor. They both excel when surrounded by scorers. Both have a talent for getting rebounds and steals, and neither needs to score to be effective. Rubio is not blessed with the quickness of Rondo, but his court sense and anticipation on the defensive end have made him a top-notch defender in Europe.

The strongest part of this comparison is how much better suited Rondo was for the N.B.A. than for college basketball. Like Rondo after his freshman year at Kentucky, Rubio is seeing his stock drop because he is playing in a system that does not exploit his gifts. He will thrive in the more wide-open N.B.A. game, where there are not always three defenders sitting in the paint. Like Rondo at Kentucky, Rubio has learned all he can from a cluttered style of basketball and is being held back by it. Some players are just meant to play with the best players in the best league in the world. Rubio is one of them.


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[pmatic]

To Improve, Rubio Needs to Come to N.B.A.

Outside of the N.B.A., the Euroleague is the best basketball in the world. For Ricky Rubio to lead a team of F.C. Barcelona’s caliber, at age 20, is a tremendous accomplishment. But he may have learned all he can by playing professionally in Spain, and if basketball is his first priority, it’s time to come to the N.B.A.

That is not to say that Rubio, who was selected fifth in the 2009 draft by the Timberwolves, has not improved in Spain. The professional polish shows in his game. He has acquired a skill set that would be hard to develop in the A.A.U.-dominated American development system. He’s a pass-first guy. He’s polished coming off the pick and roll. His awareness of help defense and defensive schemes is extremely advanced.
All of these skills were on display when F.C. Barcelona, last season’s champion, was eliminated from the Euroleague playoffs, with a 78-67 loss against Panathinaikos B.C. on Thursday. In smoky and packed Olympic Stadium, Rubio was asked to fill a variety of roles. He chased the former University of Maryland star Drew Nicholas around screens as if he were Reggie Miller. He denied the Panathinaikos linchpin Dimitris Diamantidis and often kept him from even catching the ball. On offense he initiated Barcelona’s sets, made quick outlets, and fed the post smoothly and without effort.

None of this is to say that Rubio had a good basketball game. In 29 minutes, he shot 1-of-5 from the field, with 3 points, 3 assists and 3 turnovers. He found himself on the bench for most of the last three minutes.

Worse than a poor individual performance, Rubio appears to have settled into a role that emphasizes his weaknesses. He was doing everything his coaches were asking of him; they just weren’t asking very much. The role of a point guard for Barcelona is to initiate the offense and run the pick and roll. Gone was the open court vision for which Rubio is known. Barcelona rarely looked to push the ball, and when it did, Panathinaikos simply took a non-shooting foul to slow down the pace.

Make no mistake about it, Rubio has trouble scoring. He can’t shoot and he doesn’t even look to score around the basket. But he’s a tremendously gifted passer. That was evident even with the shackles Barcelona had on him. His skip passes against Panathinaikos’ pack-the-paint defense were quick and in the shooter’s pocket. He knew when he wanted to get the ball into the post and where his teammates liked to catch it. He got the ball out and up the court easily, blessed with that gift of just knowing where his teammates are, rather than having to look for them.

In the Euroleague, playing at a snails pace and surrounded by average athleticism, Rubio’s inability to score is more important than his ability to set up his teammates. It’s why Barcelona had him sitting at the conclusion of its season-ending loss. He’s an offensive liability. Worse still, he does not even have to make plays. He can just initiate the offense in the half-court, often never to see the ball again in a possession. He can’t learn that way.

It’s easy to see how his game would be different in the N.B.A. If the ball was in his hands on the fast break, or longer in the half court, he would have to finish plays, not initiate them. At first this might mean assists to gifted teammates, but teams would adjust and it would ultimately require learning how to score. He is not getting that opportunity to develop within the Barcelona’s system.

For those looking for an American comparison, it’s best to forget Pete Maravich or Steve Nash. Rubio will never be a legendary scorer like Maravich, or a drop-dead shooter like Nash. The better comparison is Celtics guard Rajon Rondo. Like Rondo, Rubio is at his best in the open floor, when his lack of shooting does not clutter the floor. They both excel when surrounded by scorers. Both have a talent for getting rebounds and steals, and neither needs to score to be effective. Rubio is not blessed with the quickness of Rondo, but his court sense and anticipation on the defensive end have made him a top-notch defender in Europe.

The strongest part of this comparison is how much better suited Rondo was for the N.B.A. than for college basketball. Like Rondo after his freshman year at Kentucky, Rubio is seeing his stock drop because he is playing in a system that does not exploit his gifts. He will thrive in the more wide-open N.B.A. game, where there are not always three defenders sitting in the paint. Like Rondo at Kentucky, Rubio has learned all he can from a cluttered style of basketball and is being held back by it. Some players are just meant to play with the best players in the best league in the world. Rubio is one of them.


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[osh kosh bosh]

Anyone who has ever actually watched Barcelona plays knows it's not beneficial to Rubio's skills, he's basically a spot up shooter, who runs the pick and roll once in a while. In the NBA with the ball in his hands and a much more open style of play, he will be the Rajon Rondo and Maybe a Jason Kidd type player. Excellent passer, excellent rebounder and outstanding defender.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Anyone who has ever actually watched Barcelona plays knows it's not beneficial to Rubio's skills, he's basically a spot up shooter, who runs the pick and roll once in a while. In the NBA with the ball in his hands and a much more open style of play, he will be the Rajon Rondo and Maybe a Jason Kidd type player. Excellent passer, excellent rebounder and outstanding defender.

 

[jpzx]

Juan Carlos Navarro hoards the ball like no other.

 

[jpzx]

Juan Carlos Navarro hoards the ball like no other.