College Basketball "off-season" Thread (players leaving/coaching changes/recruiting)

[jamesonnt]

BEASLEYYYYYYY

anyone got decent pics of his tats, no mo.

 

[lnmymind]

Just got back in town...will be at Kenner the next two days.

 

[allen3xis]

And Monroe is done...only so many games an outa towner can play..

Averaged 16, 7 and 3 in the games he did play in.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

^ You playing?

Austin looking in shape.

Boy pretty cut. Got guns this year.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Originally Posted by wildKYcat

i'm out for the night, i can't keep @*@$*!# with y'all...i hear there's a severe tornadocaine watch in the Louisville area.

 

[wildkycat]

Originally Posted by dreClark

Originally Posted by wildKYcat

i'm out for the night, i can't keep @*@$*!# with y'all...i hear there's a severe tornadocaine watch in the Louisville area.

yeah...about that...

false alarm.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

FTL.

 

[wildkycat]

FTL? yeah right bro, i'd much rather sit in front of the comp and b/s with you guys than out getting my swerve on. alcohol FTL, you feel me?

 

[craftsy21]

Originally Posted by wildKYcat

FTL? yeah right bro, i'd much rather sit in front of the comp and b/s with you guys than out getting my swerve on. alcohol FTL, you feel me?

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

$##?

Perfect picture.

That is the exact look I would have given you if you woulda said that !@+* in person.

 

[kiddin like jason]

I think that's really a picture of you two.

 

[wildkycat]

i think we all need midnight madness to get here.

 

[wildkycat]

wow...

Beverley won't compete for Razorbacks this season

FAYETTEVILLE - Arkansas' basketball team took a major hit with Friday's announcement that Patrick Beverley will not play this season.

Beverley, a 6-1 junior guard from Chicago, would have been the Razorbacks' leading returning scorer at 12.1 points per game. Last season he averaged a team-high 6.6 rebounds, becoming the shortest Arkansas player to hold that distinction in records going back to the 1952-1953 season.

Arkansas' news release offered no explanation for Beverley not playing this season and stated its administrators and coaches wouldn't comment due to student privacy laws.

Student privacy laws include academic information, as well as other student records, and Friday's announcement regarding Beverley coincided with the last day of Arkansas' second summer school session.

It's also notable the release didn't state Beverley had been dismissed from the team or had decided to quit.

CBSSportsline reported Beverley won't play for academic reasons, citing an anonymous source.

http://www2.arkansasonline.com/news/2008/aug/08/beverley-wont-compete-razorbacks-season/

 

[allen3xis]

but Beverly..

Wow...that kid can play.

 

[ricardo malta]

What the business is?!

I sign on like, "damn, this shhhh is 3 pages deep of newness?!" Nah, come to find out Allen is a serial messenger on FB

i think we all need midnight madness to get here.
Sure do.

 

[jamesonnt]

Damn.

Beverly is definitely nice.

Sucks for Arkansas.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Damn Pat.

He was the goods for Arkansas too.

Prolly grades though. He still in school right?

 

[ricardo malta]

Didn't they just sign Pelphrey to an extension too? They might have jumped the gun on that one. Arkansas just dropped to a bottom dweller in the SEC.

 

[tmukg21]

So everyone thinks Pat Bev's grades are the real reason

 

[wildkycat]

Didn't they just sign Pelphrey to an extension too?
yup, not sure of the details though...would have to look it up.

So everyone thinks Pat Bev's grades are the real reason

no...i know he was facing a paternity suit last summer, and he'd been suspended for some other foolishness as well. it's probably acombination of all kinds of %%+*.

 

[craftsy21]

Any upstate NY'ers follow Talor Battle's little bro at all? He's ranked like 37th in the class of 2010 right now last i heard, and he's beenshutting some big names down this summer. he's a beast quite frankly, will probably move up into the top 20 by his signing date, and is probably goingsomewhere like UNC when it's all said and done.. But i'd love for PSU to snag him, since they already have the connection and he's been visitinghis bro up here in the last year. Anybody know much about him? Name is Taran Buie.

 

[allen3xis]

Originally Posted by Craftsy21

Any upstate NY'ers follow Talor Battle's little bro at all? He's ranked like 37th in the class of 2010 right now last i heard, and he's been shutting some big names down this summer. he's a beast quite frankly, will probably move up into the top 20 by his signing date, and is probably going somewhere like UNC when it's all said and done.. But i'd love for PSU to snag him, since they already have the connection and he's been visiting his bro up here in the last year. Anybody know much about him? Name is Taran Buie.

Yup......with the City Rocks....the kid is legit.
I think PSU might have an outside shot...but if Syracuse wants a kid from here/and that program....they usually will get him.

 

[allen3xis]

[h1]Big Ten ShootAround: MSU, Purdue to battle atop the conference[/h1]
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Updated: August 8, 2008

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What will the Baby Boilers do now that they're all grown up?
[h3]Baby Boilers no more[/h3]
By Adam Rittenberg
ESPN.com
Robbie Hummel's seemingly charmed life took a nasty detourback in May, thanks to a tomato at the Los Angeles Airport. Traveling back to Purdue after visiting a teammate in Los Angeles, Hummel and fellow Boilermakersforward Chad Sutor stopped for a quick bite before their flight. After eatingtomatoes, Hummel and Sutor immediately beelined for the bathroom. Sutor was spared, but Hummel became the latest victim of the salmonella outbreak. The Purduestar dwindled to 189 pounds, the lightest he'd been since high school. Then, two days after he recovered, he had to have his tonsils removed.

[h3]We didn't achieve any of our goals. We still didn't win the Big Ten, we still didn't advance any further than we did the year before at the NCAA tournament. Hopefully, that can drive us.

[/h3]
--Matt Painter
"I snored so bad and couldn't breathe," Hummel said. "The doctor said my tonsils were the biggest he'd ever seen." All in all, notthe best stretch for one of the Big Ten's top players, but Hummel maintains perspective. "It's a lot better to have that in May than March,"he said. March is on the minds of everybody at Purdue after the team's surprising 2007-08 season. With a rotation consisting mainly of freshmen andsophomores, the so-called Baby Boilers finished second in the Big Ten, twice beat league champ Wisconsin and reached the second round of the NCAA tournament.All five starters return this season, and Purdue is a preseason top 10 pick. Barring a media brain cramp, the Boilermakers will be picked to win their firstBig Ten championship since 1996, the end of a three-year title run that began with dominant forward Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson. "Everybody'sexcited around here, wondering how far we're going to go," junior guard ChrisKramer said. "People have talked about when Big Dog was here, going through that." Kramer was 5 years old during Robinson's final season atPurdue, but the Huntington, Ind., native recalls the Big Dog era. "I just remember being in awe of just how good he really was," Kramer said."He's probably one of the greatest college players ever. I don't think we have one player on our team just like Big Dog, but cumulatively, ourteam could be just as good as those teams he played on." Looking at the current roster, it's hard to argue. Hummel was arguably the league's mostversatile player last season, ranking among the top 20 in scoring (11.4 ppg), rebounds (6.1 rpg) and steals (1.3 spg). He rejoins Kramer, the Big Ten DefensivePlayer of the Year, top scorer E'Twaun Moore (12.9 ppg), emerging big manJaJuan Johnson and underrated guard Keaton Grant. Coach Matt Painter recognizes who's coming back, but he doesn'tovervalue what the team accomplished last season. "We didn't achieve any of our goals," Painter said. "We still didn't win the Big Ten,we still didn't advance any further than we did the year before at the NCAA tournament. Hopefully, that can drive us." During the offseason Paintermade strength training a priority for his young team, which finished ninth in the Big Ten in average rebounding margin last season. Painter saw playersstruggle to contain the dribble or minimize post scoring, particularly in the NCAA tournament loss to Xavier. "We got almost bullied a little bit becausewe weren't physically as strong as them," Hummel said. "They had been in the weight room for four years." Hummel's miserable May set himback, but he's at full strength and has seen teammates increase their weight-room commitment. Physical maturity remains a challenge and Painter doesn'tsee "that problem being totally solved." But when it comes to handling the lofty expectations for the coming season, the Boilermakers measure up."Our guys are going to be fine with that," Painter said. "They're going to be grounded. Hopefully, we'll be a little bit stronger lastyear, a little bit better than last year." Adam Rittenberg covers the Big Ten for ESPN.com. He can be reached at [email protected].[h3]Five things to watch in '08-09[/h3]
By Adam Rittenberg
ESPN.com
• Gloom in Bloomington
Could Indiana lose 20 games? It has never happened in Bloomington before, but the longtime Big Ten powerhouse enters the season with more uncertainty thanever. Only one scholarship player -- little-used forward Kyle Taber -- returns afterthe Kelvin Sampson fallout, which leaves new coach Tom Crean in a tight spot. The Hoosiers would have been rebuilding no matter what after losing Big TenPlayer of the Year .J. White and league Rookie of the Year Eric Gordon. But with the transfers and dismissals of key players like Armon Bassett, JordanCrawford and Jamarcus Ellis, the cupboard is strikingly bare. Crean brought insome decent talent and will continue to do so, but he has virtually no experience to work with in his first season.

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Ohio State will place its NCAA tournament hopes on the big shoulders of highly-touted 7-footer B.J. Mullens.
• Rotating big men
Two years after bringing Greg Oden, Mike Conley Jr. and Daequan Cook to Columbus, Ohio State coach Thad Matta reached recruiting nirvana again. TheBuckeyes' incoming class, headlined by center B.J. Mullens, putsthem back in the Big Ten's upper echelon. The 7-foot Mullens is projected to be a top five pick in next year's NBA draft and gives Ohio State adominant post presence. Shooting guard William Buford will get plenty ofcourt time, and junior college transfers Jeremie Simmons and Nikola Kecman can contribute immediately. If Matta integratesthe newcomers like he did Oden, Conley and Cook in 2006-07, Ohio State will do some major damage. • Compete with the ACC?
The ACC/Big Ten Challenge has become decidedly one-sided the last two years, with ACC teams winning 16 of 22 matchups. Could this year be different? ProjectedBig Ten favorite Purdue hosts Duke, while Michigan State essentially hosts North Carolina at Ford Field in Detroit. Wins in those two contests plus roadvictories by both Wisconsin and Ohio State, against Virginia Tech and Miami (Fla.), could make the event competitive again. To win for the first time, the BigTen likely needs home victories from Minnesota (vs. Virginia), Illinois (vs. Clemson) and Northwestern (vs. Florida State). • Second timearound
The results last season were atypical for John Beilein, Todd Lickliter and Tubby Smith, but all three coaches should see improvement in their second seasons.Michigan players have grown accustomed to Beilen's complex system, and MannyHarris is an emerging star. Smith brought in a strong recruiting class and returns several solid guards in Al Nolen, BlakeHoffarber and Lawrence Westbrook. Lickliter still has a tough task ahead of him,but the arrival of West Virginia transfer Devan Bawinkel and several talented freshmen could breed success in Iowa City. • On the hot seat?
Penn State coach Ed DeChellis and his Northwestern counterpart Bill Carmody enter a critical year. DeChellis hasn't had a winning record in five seasons atPenn State, and his 19-63 mark in Big Ten games illustrates the urgency for an upgrade. Carmody is at a school where nobody has ever won, but he enters hisninth season and has produced just three Big Ten victories since 2005-06. DeChellis puts his faith in senior forward Jamelle Cornley, while Carmody might have bought himself some time with a strong recruitingclass. But if neither team shows improvement, both coaches could be gone.[h3]If I were commish …[/h3]
By Andy Katz
ESPN.com
Wisconsin coach Bo Ryan has publicly endorsed playing 20 games. I concur. It sounds crazy, but the Southern Conference moved to 20 gamesand no seemed to mind. Davidson even went 20-0 last season. Too often the Big Ten finds itself without being able to get the top teams to play twice. Thescheduling imbalance leads to a regular-season champion that can be debated. The Big Ten prides itself on its tradition and marrying itself with the Pac-10.The Pac-10, albeit with one less member, still has a true round-robin schedule with 18 league games. The Big Ten plays 18 now so why not just add two more tomake it a perfect 20. Big Ten teams don't need a slew of high-profile nonconference games to get into the Dance. Just a couple will suffice with a trueround-robin schedule.[h3]2007-08 Big Ten standings[/h3][table][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]Overall record[/td] [td]Big Ten record[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Wisconsin*[/td] [td]31-5[/td] [td]16-2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Purdue*[/td] [td]25-9[/td] [td]15-3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Indiana*[/td] [td]25-8[/td] [td]14-4[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Michigan State*[/td] [td]27-9[/td] [td]12-6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Ohio State^[/td] [td]24-13[/td] [td]10-8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Minnesota^[/td] [td]20-14[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Penn State[/td] [td]15-16[/td] [td]7-11[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Iowa[/td] [td]13-19[/td] [td]6-12[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Illinois[/td] [td]16-19[/td] [td]5-13[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Michigan[/td] [td]10-22[/td] [td]5-13[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Northwestern[/td] [td]8-22[/td] [td]1-17[/td] [/tr][/table]*NCAA tournament
^NIT berth For all the Big Ten news and notes, check out the conferencepage.

[h4]008-09 team capsules[/h4]

Illinois
After missing the NCAA tournament for the first time since 1999 and setting a school record with 19 losses, Illinois and coach Bruce Weber can't afford anextended downturn. There's hope for a struggling offense with the arrival of Kentucky transfer Alex Legion (he will be eligible in December). Even without sharpshooter Jamar Smith, who was dismissed from the team after his probation was revoked, theIllini's backcourt should be strong with Legion, leading returning scorer TrentMeacham and blossoming sophomore Demetri McCamey. Questions abound up front, andWeber needs more from Mike Tisdale, Mike Davis and BillCole, all of whom added weight this summer. Indiana
Eleven players are gone from a 25-win team, and all five starting spots will be open during preseason practice. Late signees Nick Williams and Malik Story should be in the mix for ample playing time as first-year coach TomCrean tries to find production wherever he can get it. Junior college transfers Tijan Jobe and Devon Dumes bring some experience to the roster, but Crean will rely heavily onincoming freshmen Matt Roth and Verdell Jones III. Iowa
Todd Lickliter's teams always defend well, but his search for offense continues to be a challenge. Guard Tony Freeman, last season's top scorer, transferred to Southern Illinois, and backcourtmate Justin Johnson graduated. The Hawkeyes need an immediate scoring spark fromtransfer Devan Bawinkel and continued development from 3-point threat Jake Kelly. Howforward Jarryd Cole returns from ACL surgery will be vital as Iowa tries to fortify afrontcourt that lost Seth Gorney and Kurt Looby. Michigan
The Wolverines have a budding star in Manny Harris, the Big Ten's leadingreturning scorer (16.1 ppg). But besides Harris, who will step up? Forward DeShawnSims could emerge as one of the league's top big men, but he needs help in the frontcourt after Ekpe Udoh transferred to Baylor and recruit Robin Benzing, a 6-10 forward from Germany, didn't meet eligibilityrequirements. Zack Gibson and Anthony Wright got decent playing time last season and must contribute more this season. Michigan State
Drew Neitzel's leadership will be missed, but the Spartans return loads of talentand will push Purdue for the league title. Big Ten Player of the Year candidate RaymarMorgan anchors the league's best frontcourt, which includes senior center GoranSuton and senior forward Marquise Gray. Dynamic sophomore Kalin Lucas and senior Travis Walton give coach Tom Izzo two capable options at point guard. Heralded incomingrecruit Delvon Roe (No. 15 in the ESPNU 150) joins the frontcourt mix,though there are some lingering questions after he underwent micro fracture surgery on his right knee. Minnesota
The Golden Gophers could be the chic pick to be the league's surprise team in Tubby Smith's second season. Smith brought in a strong recruiting classheadlined by guard Devoe Joseph and center Ralph Sampson III, whose frontcourt presence becomes vital afterthe losses of Dan Coleman and Spencer Tollackson. Minnesota lost its top three scorers from last season and will look formore heroics from guard Blake Hoffarber and continued development from Lawrence Westbrook. Hoffarber and Westbrook form a solid backcourt with point guard Al Nolen and senior Jamal Abu-Shamala, who spent the summer playing for the Jordan national team (that's thecountry, not the future Hall of Famer). Northwestern
Despite only three Big Ten victories since 2005-06, Northwestern has high hopes after landing the best recruiting class in program history. With four playersat 6-8 or taller, the group transforms a perennially undersized roster. Bill Carmody finally landed a true center in 7-footer Kyle Rowley and needs immediate production from forward John Shurna and center/forward Luka Mirkovic. Star forward Kevin Coble will be available from the onset after missing the first nine games last seasonto be with his ailing mother. Sophomore point guard Michael Thompson forms a solidbackcourt with senior Craig Moore. Ohio State
Freshman center B.J. Mullens gives the Buckeyes a dominant post presenceafter the loss of Kosta Koufos, and William Buford could push for a starting job. Thad Matta'schallenge will be integrating six new players with a group of returnees headlined by wings David Lighty and EvanTurner. Replacing Jamar Butler's leadership is paramount for Ohio State,which could turn to incoming freshmen Anthony Crater and Jeremie Simmons to run the point. Jon Diebler struggled with his shot as a freshman, but could be a factor from 3-point range. Penn State
Ed DeChellis needs a breakthrough this season and will turn to senior forward JamelleCornley, who took a greater leadership role this summer and should be at full strength following arthroscopic knee surgery in March. Cornley and excitingsophomore Talor Battle form a strong inside-outside tandem, while senior guardDanny Morrissey provides a viable 3-point shooting threat. But defense always hasbeen Penn State's bugaboo and must improve for DeChellis to stay off the hot seat. Purdue
All five starters return, and the Boilermakers are likely to be preseason Big Ten favorites. Rebounding is one of the team's few weaknesses, and coach MattPainter needs continued growth from sophomore forward JaJuan Johnson, senior forwardNemanja Calasan and several others after Scott Martin transferred to Notre Dame. Guard Keaton Grant underwent surgery but should be ready after the team's trip to Australia inAugust, and Painter expects contributions from newcomers Lewis Jackson,Ryne Smith and John Hart. Wisconsin
The personnel rarely matters for Bo Ryan, who always finds a way to win, but Ryan is glad to have Marcus Landry and defensive specialist Joe Krabbenhoft anchoring the frontcourt. Michael Flowers and Brian Butch will be missed, but guard Trevon Hughes is ready to lead the team after a strong junior season. Jason Bohannon takes on a larger role after earning Big Ten Sixth Man of the Year honors in2007-08, and sophomore Jon Leuer could help fill the frontcourt void left by Butch.--Adam Rittenberg, ESPN.com
[h4]Big Ten's best[/h4]ESPN's Doug Gottlieb counts down the Big Ten's best: 1. Purdue: The Baby Boilers have matured into full-blown stars as E'Twaun Moore, Robbie Hummel and Chris Kramer look to add more offense to their already impressive résumé. 2. Michigan State: Raymar Morgan and incoming freshman Delvon Roe give Kalin Lucas plenty of ammo atop a conference lacking weapons in the middle and at the bottom. 3. Wisconsin: Yes, I know Brian Butch, Michael Flowers and Greg Stiemsma are gone, but Bo Ryan brings back his best player (Trevon Hughes), best shooter (Jason Bohannon), best big man (Joe Krabbenhoft) and best defender (Marcus Landry) and brings in a talented frosh Jared Berggren (a big, strong center). Wisconsin will always have a say in the Big Ten title with Bo at the helm. 4. Ohio State: Another year, another star freshman center. B.J. Mullens is an animal inside, and combine his talents with David Lighty (yes, he is still there and only a junior) and incoming star William Buford, and only the play of up-and-down freshman talent Anthony Crater is in question. 5. Minnesota: Tubby Smith really likes Al Nolen's athleticism and upside, but will the point guard reach some of that potential in Year 2? Add in Devoe Joseph from Canada, Colton Iverson (a 6-10 center) from South Dakota and Ralph Sampson III (a 6-11 center) from Duluth, Ga., and Minnesota is a year a way from dancing. 6. Illinois: Chester Frazier and Trent Meacham hope that Demetri McCamey can play all season long the way he did down the stretch. Jamar Smith being booted from the team takes Illinois out of the NCAA hunt. 7. Michigan: Manny Harris, Anthony Wright and DeShawn Sims all return, but sophomore Kelvin Grady's maturation will determine how big a jump there is between Year 1 and Year 2 under John Beilein in Ann Arbor. Also look for Arizona transfer Laval Lucas-Perry. 8. Northwestern: Bill Carmody crew was competitive late last season, and everybody essentially returns, including leading scorer Kevin Coble. 9. Iowa: Talent-wise there is no logical reason Iowa should be ninth and not 10th, but the Hawkeyes defend their tails off at home and coach Todd Lickliter believes recruiting winners in high school will translate to winners in college. Somehow, Iowa will be respectable. 10. Penn State: Jamelle Cornley is undersized, and Penn State is undermanned. 11. Indiana: Kelvin Sampson's scorched earth will take a year to clear out and make Indiana respectable. It'll take two years to make the Hoosiers competitive.

[h4]Top returning scorers[/h4] [table][tr][td]
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Player[/td] [td]PPG[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Manny Harris, Michigan, Sophomore[/td] [td]16.1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Raymar Morgan, Michigan State, Junior[/td] [td]14.0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Craig Moore, Northwestern, Senior[/td] [td]13.4[/td] [/tr][tr][td]E'Twaun Moore, Purdue, Sophomore[/td] [td]12.9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]DeShawn Sims, Michigan, Junior[/td] [td]12.3[/td] [/tr][/table]

[h4]Top returning rebounders[/h4] [table][tr][td]
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Player[/td] [td]RPG[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Goran Suton, Michigan State, Senior[/td] [td]8.2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Joe Krabbenhoft, Wisconsin, Senior[/td] [td]6.5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Raymar Morgan, Michigan State, Junior[/td] [td]6.1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Robbie Hummel, Purdue, Sophomore[/td] [td]6.1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Jamelle Cornely, Penn State, Senior[/td] [td]6.0[/td] [/tr][/table]

[h4]Top returning assist leaders[/h4] [table][tr][td]
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Player[/td] [td]APG[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Travis Walton, Michigan State, Senior[/td] [td]4.3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Michael Thompson, Northwestern, Soph.[/td] [td]4.3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Kalin Lucas, Michigan State, Sophomore[/td] [td]3.8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Chester Frazier, Illinois, Senior[/td] [td]3.6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Al Nolen, Minnesota, Sophomore[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [/tr][/table]

[h4]Final shots[/h4]• At No. 11, Michigan State was the highest-rated Big Ten team in the ESPN.com's Prestige Rankings, but with seven other conference teams in the Top 50, the Big Ten acquitted itself well. Prestige Rankings • It looks like a two-team race i



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Manny Harris can be big time...just has no help...I like Sims, too...but he just doesn't fit under Belein.

Illinois is still gona suck this year

IU

Kalin Lucas > Neitzel....And Raymar is a stud

....seems like Suton has been there for 8 years..

Tubby could steal quite a few games in this conference.

I don't see a great team in Purdue....but very good. I don't see huge upside in most of those kids, except for Johnson. They are tough though.

Wisconsin, solid as always.

William Buford

Talor Battle

 

[craftsy21]

Dude... if Penn State could find a solution on defense, they're good enough offensively to win 10 big ten games. It's definitely too much to expect outof them, they just aren't quick and deep enough to keep big ten sized players from doing what they want for long periods of time, but man.. offensivelywe're there, we just need more athletic bodies that can defend right now and we're a bubble team - i swear to you.

Anyways - the conference is MSU's this year. You know how i feel about Lucas. Purdue comes back to earth a bit, but should definitely be in the mix andprobably 2nd in the league. Minnesota takes some huge steps under tubby's second year. OSU and WIskey are both tourney teams, they fight for 3rd place inthe tourney. Hopefully psu coud slide into 6th SOMEHOW and flirt with a post season tournament that starts with N. HOPEFULLY.

 

[krisp kicks]

Last few pages of this thread are straight comedy.