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Bro, you didnt prove s**t. You just mad because these vets put a dent into your arguement. FOH!!
Bunch of .gifs and rolling smileys instead of valid counterpoints. I win.
Typical NT ignorance.
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Bro, you didnt prove s**t. You just mad because these vets put a dent into your arguement. FOH!!
Bunch of .gifs and rolling smileys instead of valid counterpoints. I win.
Typical NT ignorance.
There have been valid points and you're being unreasonable, hence the gifs and such.
Bunch of .gifs and rolling smileys instead of valid counterpoints. I win.
Typical NT ignorance.
Did this dude really just say veteran black on black crimes compared to civilian black on black crimes?!?!Can you do me a favor and pull up the veteran black on black crimes as opposed to the civilian black on black crimes?
Precisely.I get the point they're making, and for the most part I agree, and I also feel like some of the posts came across as another selfie/gloat challenge, as most things on social media do.
Much like the "what if it was me" challenge [emoji]128565[/emoji]
, I still can't believe homey's interpretation of the #VeteransForKapernick posts...
I just showed it to my co-worker who is a vet that served in the Panama invasion & in desert storm... He was like WTF?!??!
BTW, he hates what Kap did but echoes what his fellow vets posted. He said people are making it a bigger deal than it should be.
I said before in another thread, black Americans need to outsource for assistance from other nations. March, get on tv, do whatever. We need assistance because this country is not gonna save us, no matter how many well intentioned people there are
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I get the point they're making, and for the most part I agree, and I also feel like some of the posts came across as another selfie/gloat challenge, as most things on social media do.
Much like the "what if it was me" challenge [emoji]128565[/emoji]
Precisely.
You guys act like it's totally unfathomable that people (yes, including our brave men & women in uniform, who are still only human) sometimes subconsciously use these "newsworthy" events to "join the global conversation" and end up just promoting themselves / their image on social media in some way. It's ******* social media, everyone is always looking for an excuse to project a good / cool image of themselves. Unless you want to tell me that's completely false?
The best example is this guy:
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I mean just look at the ******* pictures.
You can't honestly tell me that you think this guy was more focused on simply promoting the First Amendment than he was on putting together this cute collage for Instagram / Twitter "props."
I think Kap knows he's was on his way out of the league and wanted to make a statement while he still had a platform.
Sounds more like you're mad because you can't use the veterans' voices to mold the conversation to your liking.[thread="652983"]Quote:[/thread]
I get the point they're making, and for the most part I agree, and I also feel like some of the posts came across as another selfie/gloat challenge, as most things on social media do.
Much like the "what if it was me" challenge [emoji]128565[/emoji]
Precisely.
You guys act like it's totally unfathomable that people (yes, including our brave men & women in uniform, who are still only human) sometimes subconsciously use these "newsworthy" events to "join the global conversation" and end up just promoting themselves / their image on social media in some way. It's ******* social media, everyone is always looking for an excuse to project a good / cool image of themselves. Unless you want to tell me that's completely false?
The best example is this guy:
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I mean just look at the ******* pictures.
You can't honestly tell me that you think this guy was more focused on simply promoting the First Amendment than he was on putting together this cute collage for Instagram / Twitter "props."
So, just to clarify a few things:They obviously want to be seen, that's why they're posting hashtags on the internet. It's trendingwhat point are you trying to make?
Of course it's not what they did but why they did it. Who ******* cares if they wanna get a little shine while also showing these "but what about the vets?!" people that they sound stupid.
Why should he be "extremely grateful" and not stand up for the injustice inflicted on his fellow minorities? Him being successful and being less affected by systemic racism is irrelevant. He's not doing it for himself. If anything more influential celebrities should speak up about it.
So, just to clarify a few things:
All I'm saying is that the mere fact that some veterans are "supporting" Colin Kaepernick means nothing to me. It doesn't sway my opinion. It doesn't make me think, "Oh, okay, never mind, Colin! Keep up the good work, because some veterans 'said' [see: posted selfies saying] it was cool with them!"
- Colin Kaepernick has the right to do / say whatever he wants according to the First Amendment to the Constitution -- undeniable FACT
- I disagree with his actions because I think he should be extremely ******* grateful that he lives in this country that has allowed for him to have a life that 99.99% people only dream of (despite the unfortunate circumstances from which he came) and, therefore, I think he should be respectful of the symbols of this country
- I have the utmost respect for our brave soldiers. They are willing to do a job that I'm not currently willing to do, that is vital to the safety of our nation and all of the people in it
I'm not saying image crafting was their only motivation, or even their greatest motivation, but it's a significant portion of the motivation. Therefore, I'm not giving these relatively superficial endorsements much weight.
Finally, getting to a substantive conversation.@rickyrobot
Thanks for clarifying. You don't agree with his actions, but what about his reasons for sitting out? Do you agree/disagree that there are systemic and historical disadvantages applied to communities of color that still persist to this day?
I don't think he meant anthem and flag = oppression and police brutality , rather anthem and flag = America = oppression and police brutality. Senseless acts of violence against African Americans by police have occurred in states throughout the country, so I think it's fair to say it's a problem that exists in America as a whole and not just subspecific regions of itI just:@rickyrobot
Thanks for clarifying. You don't agree with his actions, but what about his reasons for sitting out? Do you agree/disagree that there are systemic and historical disadvantages applied to communities of color that still persist to this day?
- Think it's a bit of a stretch when people simplify and wholly equate the anthem & flag to oppression & police brutality
It's amazing that one could look at those posts from those serving in our military & come to the conclusions posted in this thread. I'm not surprised though.