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A 6 week old cluster of cells isn’t a life to me. If it is to you, then women are murderers
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A 6 week old cluster of cells isn’t a life to me. If it is to you, then women are murderers
what do you mean by very grey? it's not like the person is carrying someone that would turn up as something else?Gonna read this article later interested to see what they claim a "detectable HUMAN heartbeat" is
the word human is very grey....there are clusters of cells that fire electrical signals that doctors say is the fetal heartbeat at early stages in a pregnancy (6 ish weeks). But the cluster of cells does not turn into a true heart (4 chambered heart that a human needs to live) until 17-20 ish weeks.
Also i wonder if you have a miscarriage at any point during the year can you get the full years tax benefit for the "dependent" Technically you were carrying an embryo in the tax year...soooo....id assume yes?
There is no such thing as a heartbeat at six weeks,” Abrams claimed during an event at the Ray Charles Performing Arts Center in Atlanta on Tuesday. “It is a manufactured sound designed to convince people that men have the right to take control of a woman’s body.”
Stacey Abrams Claims Six-Week Fetal Heartbeats ‘Manufactured’ to Help Men Control Women https://news.yahoo.com/stacey-abrams-claims-fetal-heartbeats-152143154.html
There is no such thing as a heartbeat at six weeks,” Abrams claimed during an event at the Ray Charles Performing Arts Center in Atlanta on Tuesday. “It is a manufactured sound designed to convince people that men have the right to take control of a woman’s body.”
Stacey Abrams Claims Six-Week Fetal Heartbeats ‘Manufactured’ to Help Men Control Women https://news.yahoo.com/stacey-abrams-claims-fetal-heartbeats-152143154.html
There is no such thing as a heartbeat at six weeks,” Abrams claimed during an event at the Ray Charles Performing Arts Center in Atlanta on Tuesday. “It is a manufactured sound designed to convince people that men have the right to take control of a woman’s body.”
Stacey Abrams Claims Six-Week Fetal Heartbeats ‘Manufactured’ to Help Men Control Women https://news.yahoo.com/stacey-abrams-claims-fetal-heartbeats-152143154.html
“I believe that abortion is a medical decision, not a political decision,” she replied. “Arbitrary politically-defined timelines are deeply problematic because they ignore the reality of medical and physiological issues.”
Yet the article goes on to quote a doctor who says the heart “does begin to develop at around six weeks” but argues that “at this point the heart as we know it does not yet exist.”
what do you mean by very grey? it's not like the person is carrying someone that would turn up as something else?
A more accurate / less feminist statement:
“It is a manufactured sound designed to convince people thatmenRepublicans have the right to take control of a woman’s body.”
We understood her just fine
Feel free to do the other backwards state legislatures if you want
it is rather a point of "becoming human" and the fact that it is already a living organism. because if we are going to debate and base it on science, a human person isn't really develop until a certain age. the only justification that people use is that as long as the "developing/becoming human" is inside their bodies, they have every right to do what they want with it or denied it's being til it is outside the body. regardless of that is if the living being is inside the body or not, it is still dependent on the parent inorder to mature enough to survive. babies are not self-reliant once they are born.I just mean basically what has been said in this thread already. When is a fetus a human? Same argument of when is the heart...a heart. A cluster of cell's is not a heart...it will become a heart...but isn't yet so it is not yet "a heart".
Same with a human. Is an embryo a human? Is a zygote a human. Some people may think it is...i do not
Bruh!
How you gonna say "feel free" with a whole Niketalk Post Police uniform on?
Mans trying to pull me over for a word count violation
Everything aint gotta be contentious my G.
It's wasn't the word count. I just think it's absurd you're taking issue with her using the word "men" instead of "Republicans". Like there was any confusion as to what she meant
Of course the women who vote R share some of the blame but women are overwhelmingly not the ones in political offices passing the laws banning abortions
Is her opposition "men" or Republicans?
What's "absurd" in my mind is needlessly bashing "men" when you need them to vote for you.
Her comment was not made in a vacuum but in the current political landscape
I didn't feel "needlessly bashed" because I don't vote for/enable Republicans
I agree that it's never a bad time to call them out specifically
But again... who else could she be referring to
There is no such thing as a heartbeat at six weeks,” Abrams claimed during an event at the Ray Charles Performing Arts Center in Atlanta on Tuesday. “It is a manufactured sound designed to convince people that men have the right to take control of a woman’s body.”
Stacey Abrams Claims Six-Week Fetal Heartbeats ‘Manufactured’ to Help Men Control Women https://news.yahoo.com/stacey-abrams-claims-fetal-heartbeats-152143154.html
The heartbeat thing is a red herring when it comes to public views on abortion.
“It is a manufactured sound designed to convince people that men have the right to take control of a woman’s body.”
The numbers don't lie:
Views on abortion by gender, 2022
Majorities of both men and women express support for legal abortion, though women are somewhat more likely than men to hold this view (63% vs. 58%).
Views on abortion by race and ethnicity, 2022
Majorities of adults across racial and ethnic groups express support for legal abortion. About three-quarters of Asian (74%) and two-thirds of Black adults (68%) say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, as do 60% of Hispanic adults and 59% of White adults.
Public Opinion on Abortion
While public support for legal abortion has fluctuated some in two decades of polling, it has remained relatively stable over the past five years.www.pewresearch.org
Framing this debate as "da patriarchy" when women have had the right to vote for 103 years aint the best way to garner men's votes - especially Black men.
What Patriarchy actually is:
A more accurate / less feminist statement:
- a system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is traced through the male line.
"the thematic relationships of the ballad are worked out according to the conventional archetypes of the patriarchy"
- a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.
"the dominant ideology of patriarchy"- a society or community organized on patriarchal lines.
plural noun: patriarchies
"we live in a patriarchy"
“It is a manufactured sound designed to convince people thatmenRepublicans have the right to take control of a woman’s body.”