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This is a civil rights issue; besides, there was false information about Prop 8.
Calif. Supreme Court to take up GAY MARRIAGE BAN...... possibly overturn the vote???
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come on fam honestly? you were that wierded out that ur teach was gay? if you don't mind me asking where do you live? what if your kid grows up to be ahomosexual? is something wrong with them? This was a terrible prop and truly a step back for this state....
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i'm glad i'm not the only one..
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No if I say all of this in reverse then its NT members lined up to take shots at me. I see how it works.Originally Posted by DL2352
Man do ya'll know where we live? Unconstitutional? The patriot act?
Thanks for the laughs guys.
But seriously. I know you two were laughing when you were thinking that. Man the Iraq war? All the other shady stuff?Them dudes in the suits aint worried about a piece of paper or what me or you think.
So what are you trying to say? If a gay couple brought this matter to court, that the government would force the church to marry them? Is that what you're saying? You just sound OD paranoid right now. On some Big Brother tip. Of course I don't agree with the Patriot Act or the Iraq War but I can't see the government forcing a church to marry people. If that happens, America has deviated from being the country of freedom that we're known as.
Ok I said what if. Hello? Man.
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if gays were allowed to marry, what would stop polygamists from having more than one wife? or guys being able to marry animals? or *gasp* inanimate objects?
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Originally Posted by FeelMode
Originally Posted by outacontrol music
And why are your views more important than mine?
My views are that of equality and when i say equality i mean equality for all with no bearing on race, sexual orientation, and so forth. Thats why.
Why exclude religion?
People vote certain ways on issues based on age, gender, sexual orientation, race...why exclude religion?
You sound very unAmerican
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what all you gay haters don't understand is that if "the voice of the people" is always heard black people would still be getting taught indifferent schools. There are legal ramifications to getting married. Like for instance if one of them is in a car wreck then their partner can visit them inthe hospital. They wana be able to transfer property, pay different taxes there are many reasons.
The elephant in the room in religion. This isn't looked at as a civil rights issue because of crazy loo koo Catholics/Christians. Yes I am generalizing butwhatever.... if the shoe fits
The elephant in the room in religion. This isn't looked at as a civil rights issue because of crazy loo koo Catholics/Christians. Yes I am generalizing butwhatever.... if the shoe fits
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All heterosexuals are allowed to marry, regardless of religious belief. But homosexuals are not allowed to because they are two people of the samesex. Two consenting adults that love one another want to get married but it's not being allowed because some bigots believe that homosexuality is wrong.Fine, believe what you want but don't strip away a group's civil rights. Guys marring animals? Inanimate objects? Gay marriage is about PEOPLE. Peoplethat love one another. You guys seriously take this too far
and RKO, you're just back pedaling. What are you talking about? "What if?" What?
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Originally Posted by DL2352
All heterosexuals are allowed to marry, regardless of religious belief. But homosexuals are not allowed to because they are two people of the same sex. Two consenting adults that love one another want to get married but it's not being allowed because some bigots believe that homosexuality is wrong. Fine, believe what you want but don't strip away a group's civil rights. Guys marring animals? Inanimate objects? Gay marriage is about PEOPLE. People that love one another. You guys seriously take this too far
and RKO, you're just back pedaling. What are you talking about? "What if?" What?
What I said it was said under what if scenarios. If you didn't know well it was. Scopin.
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Originally Posted by outacontrol music
Originally Posted by FeelMode
Originally Posted by outacontrol music
And why are your views more important than mine?
My views are that of equality and when i say equality i mean equality for all with no bearing on race, sexual orientation, and so forth. Thats why.
Why exclude religion?
People vote certain ways on issues based on age, gender, sexual orientation, race...why exclude religion?
You sound very unAmerican
Well im glad that comes out in my posts, because i am pretty UNamerican. When America overwhelmingly chose Barrack Obama to be it's next President it didhowever go a little way towards making me feel a little better about being an American however. It's going to take a lot more then that though, the fact ofthe matter is most of this country is still living with their heads shoved so far up their own butts that on a world level it's very embarrassing to admiti am an american. Most of America feels like we are better then the rest of the world simply based on where we were born. That is something i strongly disagreewith. You, me, my mom, your mom, none of us are any better then the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens our "boys" have murdered in cold blood.Until the majority of the country agrees with me on this i will continue to be embarrassed to be an American.
As far as religion, i dont exclude religion. However, i think i have already made my point in this thread. Im very much against someone in the religiousmajority voting against another group of people who happen to be in the minority based solely off their own personal religious beliefs that not necessarily theminority agrees with or believes in. The fact that you think your religious believes should have any bearing what so ever in the voting process, especially onan issue of this nature goes very far in proving my point. YOUR religious beliefs should NOT dictate someone else's rights in this country especially ifthey dont share your religious beliefs.
This really shouldnt even be that big of a debate, if you cant see what im saying you never will. It's very very sad. Just like it was very sad when themajority of californians voted in favor of taking away basic civil rights of people they dont even understand.
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that is the dumbest logic that people continue to use. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HUMAN BEING AND AN ANIMAL/INATIMIATE OBJECT.
if you cant understand that difference then any school you went to should be shut down immediately.
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Not really...marriage is based on the fact that a male marries a female and vice versa...if it is changed...the fundamental base ischanged...therefore,if the fundamental base is changed...then who will hesitate to morph(change) the meaning of marriage to anything as pleased...Originally Posted by rickybadman
SMH. That point is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.
Change is needed,but do not change a custom that has been going on for centuries....
That being said.
No they should not overturn the vote...the people have spoken whether it was black/hispanic/asian/white etc...this was the decision of the PEOPLE for thePEOPLE...
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Originally Posted by FeelMode
Originally Posted by outacontrol music
Originally Posted by FeelMode
Originally Posted by outacontrol music
And why are your views more important than mine?
My views are that of equality and when i say equality i mean equality for all with no bearing on race, sexual orientation, and so forth. Thats why.
Why exclude religion?
People vote certain ways on issues based on age, gender, sexual orientation, race...why exclude religion?
You sound very unAmerican
Well im glad that comes out in my posts, because i am pretty UNamerican. When America overwhelmingly chose Barrack Obama to be it's next President it did however go a little way towards making me feel a little better about being an American however. It's going to take a lot more then that though, the fact of the matter is most of this country is still living with their heads shoved so far up their own butts that on a world level it's very embarrassing to admit i am an american. Most of America feels like we are better then the rest of the world simply based on where we were born. That is something i strongly disagree with. You, me, my mom, your mom, none of us are any better then the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens our "boys" have murdered in cold blood. Until the majority of the country agrees with me on this i will continue to be embarrassed to be an American.
As far as religion, i dont exclude religion. However, i think i have already made my point in this thread. Im very much against someone in the religious majority voting against another group of people who happen to be in the minority based solely off their own personal religious beliefs that not necessarily the minority agrees with or believes in. The fact that you think your religious believes should have any bearing what so ever in the voting process, especially on an issue of this nature goes very far in proving my point. YOUR religious beliefs should NOT dictate someone else's rights in this country especially if they dont share your religious beliefs.
This really shouldnt even be that big of a debate, if you cant see what im saying you never will. It's very very sad. Just like it was very sad when the majority of californians voted in favor of taking away basic civil rights of people they dont even understand.
And if I don't share the gays beliefs, I should just fold?
Or if I don't agree with a senior citizens beliefs I should fold?
Or if I disagree on an issue that has to do with Latinos, I should fold?
Why should their beliefs take precedence over mine?
That's weak dude. I dunno about you, but I stand up for what I believe in.
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Originally Posted by 23MCpizzle23
Yes just like overturning slavery did huh! We all know that America went to hell when women became eligible to vote!!
Stop your ignorance is hurting this board!!
You mad?
Obviously taking what I said and putting words in my mouth.
My-T.
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There is no difference between an object/animal and a human if you're atheist.
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i dont have a problem with gay marriage...but, what i do have a problem with is liberal judges overturning what the people want and voted for...
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Typical.
**+*%#! liberals/ gay rights activists never could except losing fair and square.
They talk all this @%@!#%%* about "freedom and rights" and then when they dont get what they want, these concepts are all of a sudden overturned intheir favor.
Just shows how hypocritical these idiots are.
**+*%#! liberals/ gay rights activists never could except losing fair and square.
They talk all this @%@!#%%* about "freedom and rights" and then when they dont get what they want, these concepts are all of a sudden overturned intheir favor.
Just shows how hypocritical these idiots are.
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I've been sayin' that for years. Goes right along with, "Your only open-minded if you're open-minded in the exact same way aseveryone else."
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Originally Posted by outacontrol music
Originally Posted by FeelMode
Originally Posted by outacontrol music
Originally Posted by FeelMode
Originally Posted by outacontrol music
And why are your views more important than mine?
My views are that of equality and when i say equality i mean equality for all with no bearing on race, sexual orientation, and so forth. Thats why.
Why exclude religion?
People vote certain ways on issues based on age, gender, sexual orientation, race...why exclude religion?
You sound very unAmerican
Well im glad that comes out in my posts, because i am pretty UNamerican. When America overwhelmingly chose Barrack Obama to be it's next President it did however go a little way towards making me feel a little better about being an American however. It's going to take a lot more then that though, the fact of the matter is most of this country is still living with their heads shoved so far up their own butts that on a world level it's very embarrassing to admit i am an american. Most of America feels like we are better then the rest of the world simply based on where we were born. That is something i strongly disagree with. You, me, my mom, your mom, none of us are any better then the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens our "boys" have murdered in cold blood. Until the majority of the country agrees with me on this i will continue to be embarrassed to be an American.
As far as religion, i dont exclude religion. However, i think i have already made my point in this thread. Im very much against someone in the religious majority voting against another group of people who happen to be in the minority based solely off their own personal religious beliefs that not necessarily the minority agrees with or believes in. The fact that you think your religious believes should have any bearing what so ever in the voting process, especially on an issue of this nature goes very far in proving my point. YOUR religious beliefs should NOT dictate someone else's rights in this country especially if they dont share your religious beliefs.
This really shouldnt even be that big of a debate, if you cant see what im saying you never will. It's very very sad. Just like it was very sad when the majority of californians voted in favor of taking away basic civil rights of people they dont even understand.
And if I don't share the gays beliefs, I should just fold?
Or if I don't agree with a senior citizens beliefs I should fold?
Or if I disagree on an issue that has to do with Latinos, I should fold?
Why should their beliefs take precedence over mine?
That's weak dude. I dunno about you, but I stand up for what I believe in.
And there we have it. The glaring difference between you and I. You stand up for what YOU believe in. Where as I (who also stands up for what I believe in)stand up for Human Rights, and in doing so i don't take into consideration my own personal take on it. Let me add that i dont agree with being gay at all,BUT i am smart enough to realize that MY opinion on their lifestyle should have no ill effect on their lives which is why i voted NO on prop 8 because it isobviously an equality issue and i am a firm believer in Equal Human Rights, and now it is quite obvious you dont.
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Losing fair and square? This is about people's rights man. PEOPLE. They lost the vote by the slimmest of margins so naturally they're notgoing to sit back and just accept it. And they're idiots too huh
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Wait why does this keep happening? Everytime these post start they go mass pages and its a bunch of arguing.
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Originally Posted by RKO2004
Wait why does this keep happening? Everytime these post start they go mass pages and its a bunch of arguing.
Act like you dont know
BTW, RKO i know it seems like i keep coming at you and just for the record i'm not coming just at you, its people that share your religious beliefs imcoming at equally.
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Then prove me wrong then. Humans - A Soul = A Chunk of Meat.Originally Posted by rickybadman
Just when I thought 916Jordanboy's comment was the dumbest thing posted in this thread, you max out the ignorance meter and beat his comment. Dude you sound like a straight fool.
