Brooklyn Nets official thread: 20-21 season

[art vandelay]

Looking to next season, who stays? I hope Seth, Goran, and Drummond stay. Not sure about Patty. I hope Blake and LMA come back, but if Nash is still coaching they won’t play.

 

[shuges]

I'm not ready to participate in off-season moves yet.

Nets and all the fans first have to take all the jokes and the smoke today for chanting "We want Boston" during the play-in.

The fans who were chanting that need to eat their humble pie. This fanbase ain't the Knicks. Nets fans haven't earned the right yet to be calling out ANY team.

I mean, Jalen Rose said on live tv that they quit. And I'm seeing predictions that they won't even put up a fight on Monday.

 

[EZMONEY SERVANT]

it should be a close 1st haf tomorrow, then, like usual the green team will pull awai.
what fans would want to go to that place and want t o play that team ? they r the 2nd vest in the east and that place is, well .....y'all saw what they r and will always be about, stomach turning to say the least, too bad tatum brown and smart have to be there. theis the nazi must love it though

Patty aint goin nowhere HE is the liason between Ben10 and everyone else, aussie feathers, you know

great move not bringing in BG til it was too late, ima probably crazy but i felt he woulda made a difference this series, he was getting burn during the season but nash buries him for the playoffs, oh well, he was fun to have on this team

series just started cause the road team finally won one right ???

kind funny , alotta cts said whoever came outta this series would get run by milw after beating on each other for 6 or 7 games, not lookin too much like that right now


gonna be interesting to see what happens tomorrow night, nash's neck on the line

KD saved KI *** this year by backing HIM no matter what, may have to do that with HIS man nash too


shuges you winnie the pooh post shoulda been the final post in this thread TBH, it covers EVERYTHNG that happened this year pretty well


ya take tha good, ya take the bad, ya take em both and there ya have........................................

 

[krazy88s]

I turned the game off after that Bruce Brown turnover where he couldn’t in-bound to KD. I haven’t so frustrated after a play in long while. That was like the fifth failed in-bounds

I was giving Nash some leeway because it’s been a weird season but recently I just can’t do it. Roster construction didn’t help but damn.

Playing Blake so sparingly is confusing. I mean who the hell was Drummond tapping the ball to?

I’ll give more thoughts whenever the season ends. And on the plus side Ben actually might play tomorrow. I wonder how he’ll look next to Kyrie and KD

 

[shuges]

And on the plus side Ben actually might play tomorrow. I wonder how he’ll look next to Kyrie and KD

Yeah, you might want to edit that K krazy88s .

To be completely honest, after game 2 was over, I didn't think it was a good idea to bring Ben back bc the expectations and pressure would be through the roof.

But after last night's loss, I was like screw it, he might as well play bc he MIGHT be able to spark something for this team.

But the fact that Ben came to the team and told them his back still hurts and pulled himself from gm 4, man, that's not a good sign.

I will never question how hurt a man is. But the fact that both Luka and Timelord got hurt with injuries many people considered them to miss the rest of the playoffs over and Ben got traded in Feb yet STILL can't get back to the court....

Barring a miracle comeback, the season has been a disaster, no 2 ways around it.

 

[EZMONEY SERVANT]

Ima withya 100% on never questioning a cats injury, BUT this one dont feel right. Even if he plays and they lose he wont be blamed for ISH !!! so wtf ?!?!?! get out there, it aint even on the road for Gods sake. Just another log on the fire at this point I guess, again , not mad, just disappointed , its like a bad soap opera at this point.

No Ben or Kyrie at practice today either, and as soon as the pawnz reared their ugly heads KD got the F outta dodge, cant balme Him for that one though.

Not a good look right now


Nash out, D'antoni in ?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[shuges]

Hmmm, so you think there's something else to it EZMONEY SERVANT ? I don't know, I can't call it. But I agree that I wish he tried to play. Even if he laced em up, got on the court for 4 mins and then grabbed his back, it would make all parties involved (management, fans, teammates) feel like he legit tried.

These dudes went to bat for him and had his back in Philly too.

I just hope he's legit hurt and it's not some shenanigans.

Didn't know Ky skipped out on practice. I really hope him and KD's relationship won't suffer from all of this. They appeared to have an animated discussion on court yesterday. And I saw a tweet saying that KD was screaming at everyone on the bench during the game, including the coaches. Yikes.

I'm still thinking about who would be a good coach but I'm not feeling MDA. A defensive minded taskmaster is what this team needs. And I have NO idea who that could be.

 

[EZMONEY SERVANT]

cant call it either but 10 days or so of NO pain at all, now down 3-0 it hurts again, hhhmmmmm. YOU nailed it, if nothing else get out there for a few minutes and then bow out. not gonna be a comfortble seat on tht bench tomorrow for him. odd/bad situation the wai it looks righ now

I saw that 'discussion' between KD and KI , IMHO thats just the juice flowin, these 2 have been to the top of the mountain, to see it end LIKE THIS, bound to get caught in some feels here and there.

just threw MDA out there to get the ball rolling, lol. Feel bad for Nash , but THIS job as your first gig is alot to take on , then you add in all of the 'issues', goodness.

 

[krazy88s]

Yeah just saw that Woj report. Idk what’s going between Woj and his Nets reports. My guess is Nets front office really expected Ben to play but idk bruh.

I do expect Nash is out after whenever they lose. The Nets really need accountability and continuity amongst other things. Also at least a little transparency for the fans too. This Ben and Harden thing has been weird

 

[shuges]

I think Nash will get 1 more season with a healthy and reimagined roster. Tsai is about to be way deep in the luxury tax for 2023 and I don't see him paying 2 head coaches' salaries next year.

EZMONEY SERVANT , I don't think Ben will even be there tomorrow. The funniest thing is that I saw him ask for and receive a pillow for his back yesterday and I was like "good, he's doing the right thing". And yet, here we are.

People seem to be saying the Nets are behind sitting Ben. If that's the case, Marks better come out and say that to not make Ben look so funny in the light.

 

[EZMONEY SERVANT]

ok , no coaching change now makes sense then

IF he is not on the bench AT LEAST

What sense would it make for the team to be behind the call though ? when you have nothing to lose why not just put it all out there ? AND lets say they are behind it for arguments sake............ after his teammates supported him 100% and all the drama surrounding him upon his arrival, he SHOULD be all about that " nah F that im playin!"

 

[shuges]

Bro, don't take my word on the coaching search. Tsai could just as well say screw it and pay 2 coaches as long as the new coach is a rookie guy again bc then that's 2 inexpensive salaries. I've already seen Coach K mentioned and that's an intriguing name. What do you think about him?

And some people seem to think the Nets org have already realized they can't win the series and feel it doesn't make sense for Ben to play 15 mins in 1 game for the entire season.

I agree with you though and am not buying that reasoning.

 

[EZMONEY SERVANT]

K will not oach again, he will be too busy with taking calls from Scheyer 20 times a day. Would be a good strategic move though considering his relationship with both KD and KI.

I feel that , but even if you KNOW you arent gonna win the series, wouldnt it at least 'look' good to get him out there ? by doing so you also take away THIS 'weirdness' going into the off season and next year. Watch couz 1 week before camp have these 'pains' again ! lol least if he plays , even that 15 mins, the questions and doubt would be erased to a point. without him getting out there for even 5 mins, keeps the whole damn thing rollin

maybe Phil Jackson itchin to return to nyc its kind of no win situation for the next coach, SO many issues atm. HIRE AMARE !

 

[krazy88s]

Everybody and their mother is asking for a coaching change. My opinion on it changes day to day. But Sean Marks and the front office has been taking PR hits for not being upfront about Ben’s status. But to Nash’s credit everything he said about Ben’s availability has been true. He’s simply isnt ready and the team isn’t ready to play him. At least on the surface

I don’t think Nash gotten a fair deal but I also think he hasn’t performed well in key spots

 

[krazy88s]

 

[art vandelay]

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[shuges]

You're right, Coach K would be perfect given his ties and familiarity with Ky, KD, Seth. But you're also right that he's a pipe dream.

Marks should pitch a "just ONE year, Coach K" just to test the waters. Who says no to that?

And I think PJ is too old (76) at this point. There's a disconnect between him and today's players. Imagine him and Ben in practice.

 

[art vandelay]

Mark Jackson…..

 

[krazy88s]

new coaching staff (or at least change the style), new training staff, new PR team, some new players

 

[krazy88s]

a small part of me wants to put some money down on Draft Kings for a Nets win tonight

 

[art vandelay]

The only hope is that Boston comes out overly confident and aggressive and makes tons of mistakes.

 

[NickyPreme]

Bruce Brown needs to be re-signed. He gives 100% every night and never quits. His growth has helped the team a lot. Need his jersey.

 

[krazy88s]

Agreed. Bruce needs to stay.

Also why cut James Johnson (even tho he was kinda trash) to sign Kessler Edwards only to play him 7 minutes so far? I can almost guarantee we'll see Seth, Patty, Goran on the court at the same time. How many 3 or 4 guard lineups to we need to see?!

 

[shuges]

Say what you want and feel how you feel about Ben Simmons.

But the Nets have absolutely botched this situation imho.

Once it was determined that he wasn't going to play in Game 4, they should have released a statement saying "Ben has suffered a setback and we have determined that he will be shutdown for the remainder of this post-season to strengthen his back and focus on his overall health".

THAT'S IT!

I mean, people are still wondering if he will play in Game 5 if they win tonight bc the statement never made it clear or not! Wtf?? You can't have that whole, will he/won't he hanging over the team this whole time.

And as an organization, you can NOT put one of your primary assets in a position to look like dog **** to the fans, the media, and most importantly his teammates.

Even if the story is accurate how it all went down, the minute Ben said he's not feeling well enough to play, if I'm Marks, I'm calling Ben's agent and explaining to him that it will be a really bad look if he doesn't at least suit up. (Ben could have claimed his back stiffened up in the lay-up drills for goodness sake. Just have him freaking DRESS AND RUN OUT WITH HIS TEAMMATES).

And if Ben's agent and Ben still insisted they weren't going to even dress in uniform, then as an organization, the Nets have to take the hit and say "WE are holding Ben out for precautionary measures. This is an organizational decision".

You want to know why? Because you absolutely tank his value if they don't do that. The last thing you want to do is alienate Ben Simmons or make him think the org doesn't believe in or care about him and have him not wanting to come around again.

Now, you have a toxic situation brewing again just like it did in Philly and good luck trying to get any value for him in yet another trade.

Nets are literally making the same mistake with this kid that Philly did.

edit:
His agent = Rich Paul
@ me

 

[Raji Lowenthal]

Say what you want and feel how you feel about Ben Simmons.

But the Nets have absolutely botched this situation imho.

Once it was determined that he wasn't going to play in Game 4, they should have released a statement saying "Ben has suffered a setback and we have determined that he will be shutdown for the remainder of this post-season to strengthen his back and focus on his overall health".

THAT'S IT!

I mean, people are still wondering if he will play in Game 5 if they win tonight bc the statement never made it clear or not! Wtf?? You can't have that whole, will he/won't he hanging over the team this whole time.

And as an organization, you can NOT put one of your primary assets in a position to look like dog **** to the fans, the media, and most importantly his teammates.

Even if the story is accurate how it all went down, the minute Ben said he's not feeling well enough to play, if I'm Marks, I'm calling Ben's agent and explaining to him that it will be a really bad look if he doesn't at least suit up. (Ben could have claimed his back stiffened up in the lay-up drills for goodness sake. Just have him freaking DRESS AND RUN OUT WITH HIS TEAMMATES).

And if Ben's agent and Ben still insisted they weren't going to even dress in uniform, then as an organization, the Nets have to take the hit and say "WE are holding Ben out for precautionary measures. This is an organizational decision".

You want to know why? Because you absolutely tank his value if they don't do that. The last thing you want to do is alienate Ben Simmons or make him think the org doesn't believe in or care about him and have him not wanting to come around again.

Now, you have a toxic situation brewing again just like it did in Philly and good luck trying to get any value for him in yet another trade.

Nets are literally making the same mistake with this kid that Philly did.

Only reason I'm rooting for BS at this point is because "he has on the jersey" . I think he's a talented bum but there was no reason for him to play a must win game as his first game back. All he would do is get tired most likely.